Try out the reworked matchmaking

[TangledTestes]

Exactly

[BandytaJeden]

Like you are the one that wants 1-2, 3-4 and 5 queues.

We are making fun of you here

[VoyoMayPL]

So you want to make BR1 and BR3 obsolete on purpose. I don’t see anything positive about this.

[TangledTestes]

I know you’re making fun of me here I’m just letting you enjoy it

[TangledTestes]

I don’t see how they’re obsolete when the majority of the players are going to start with those line ups and upgrade/flesh them out. Most BR4 kit isn’t significantly better than BR3, claiming they’d be obsolete comes off melodramatic. I respectfully disagree with you here chap.

[VoyoMayPL]

@TangledTestes

upgrade/flesh them out.

You mean abandon them as soon as possible to unlock better gear and not be permanently uptiered?

@TangledTestes

Most BR4 kit isn’t significantly better than BR3, claiming they’d be obsolete comes off melodramatic.

Well, ppl also claim there is too big of a gap between BR4 and BR5 so 2+2= buff BR4.

[TangledTestes]

I don’t really view it as abandoning BR3, more so just being to able to enjoy some extra variety with BR4 since they’re pretty similar. I’d love to see matches with BR3 and BR4 kit slugging it out. Anyone with a brain can compete at these stages imo.

I’ve read a post earlier about moving some weaker BR5 kit down to BR4, if that were to happen I’d be fine with whatever as long as it isn’t overly egregious.

[Dregomz]

@TangledTestes

They should just do a 1-2, 3-4, 5

I would rather want 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, and 5. That way you could have more BR4 vs BR4matches instead of being always at the advantage when fighting vs BR3. BR4 doesn’t have a massive advantage but it’s still there. BR5 should always fight against BR5 their gear is completely overpowered and way better than BR4. BR3 should stay as that random BR which let you play across all maps.

[Conscript_Joe]

My experience so far with the test:

using exclusively br3. Used both Soviets and axis (I want to play in the new map)

• Br3 seems… MORE LIVELY! It’s a good thing. It’s populated by enough players.
• Finding matches is fast as usual for me ( < 30 seconds queues, NA server)
• MATCHES WERE BALANCED!!! Surprisingly, neither Sovs nor axis had the upper hand over the other team.
• only a handful matches were uptiered with br 5. I deserted those to test faster (I would desert br 5 slog anyway)

Overall: The test… is a success on my side! The new queues work wonderfully!!!

Next, I will test using new lineups of br 4, to see if there is any difference. If it’s more spread out and hopefully play less against br 5, I will stop using br 5 lineup completely (I prefer semis in br4, and dislike greatly SF rifles except AVT40.)

[Willcario]

@Golem_42

@Willcario

The STG45 is also the weakest version of the STG with a very low firerate of 450 RPM, it should also be considered to move to BR4 since it has less firepower than the regular Mkb42

Ooooh, that would be interesting, however its unlikely since its an AR.

Mkb 35 is classified as an assault rifle and its BR2

[GENxCatrenko]

the queue you of tier 4 should depend on if the player has a br5 weapon in the rotation or not. If not, then br4 players that have no br5 gear should be only in the 3-4 queue.

[noktinnky_noktin]

so people want 1-2 3-4 and 5? i thought people want +/-1

[xaos]

@Willcario

BR4 is a step up from BR3, but BR5 is 10 steps up from BR4. BR4 and BR5 should not face each other

@Willcario … And that’s why i push for BR6 to be implimented, to avoid the heinous “solutions” of locked “BR’s” “matchmaker”.
Locking down the BR’s defeats the purpose of BR’s, undermines variety and makes most weapons/vehicles instantly obsolete, because taking the better stuff in the same “BR” woulrn’t ever put you against better equipped enemies…
BR4 shouldn’t face “BR5” aka BR6, and there is enough equipment in BR5 to decompress it into BR6 while retaining a competent (yet “nerfed”) BR5 that BR4 wouldn’t get stomped facing it like BR3 did in the old fixed BR3-4-5-‘5’ MM.

@Adamnpee

That’s complete nonsense. The only issue is huge gap between semis and SF rifles.

So either buff semis or nerf SF. There’s no other reason for seperating BR4 from BR5.

Ohh, and US/Japs are in desperate need of better AT launchers.
(Japs maybe not, since NI05 is just OP)

“That’s complete nonsense.” @Adamnpee Show me one person that uses the early BR5 weapons/vehicles when they gets the good stuff! Where are they??? They don’t exist! Who uses the techtree BR5 smg’s while they can just play AR’s instead? Who plays the Tiger E when they have the Tiger II unlocked??? They are the same BR, but the later stuff are so much better they deserve BR6 instead.

YOU were screaming “mUh BaLaNcE…” when i suggested BR±2 with BR6 almost 2 months ago, and now you are against of any solution of the compression/powercreep problem of BR5, which is wrecking the balance of top tier.

@Willcario

a BR4 sherman will get deleted by a Tiger 2 or a Ho-Ri

RD44 or Maxim Tokarev makes the MG42 feel lame

yep, T-34’s too.

@Willcario

30rnd thompsons are nothing compared to STG44s

Only the first and weakest MP44 should stay at BR5 (both for balance and historical accuracy in stalingrad), with the rest, alongside the soviet AR’s and possibly the M2 Carbine going up to BR6.
Also, Don’t forget the lonely M1C Garand that’s suffering at BR5 because someone thought that’s equal to the FG42 and AVS 36 rifles (sniper editions).

@Adamnpee

Lmao, yet another “tiger 2h argument”. Acting like it is the only BR5 German tank.

It’s the only “BR5” german tank worth using, because it’s leagues better that every other german BR5 tank.

@UJustCumsToMe

@Adamnpee

All Thompsons are shit in comparison to Japanese/German assault weapons of the same BR.

Save for the premium 100rd one, cause $$$

Which makes no sense, but we are talking about DarkFlow here…
And hidden stats are a B!$#&…

[xaos]

@noktinnky_noktin

so people want 1-2 3-4 and 5? i thought people want +/-1

That’s the usual few vocal !@$@#% wanting to kill the game with locked “BR’s”.
"BR1-2 | 3-4 and 5 locked “BR’s” look like hell to me, BR±1 is so much better.
(and i wasn’t accusing you of being one of them)

[Adamnpee]

@xaos

“That’s complete nonsense.” @Adamnpee Show me one person that uses the early BR5 weapons/vehicles when they gets the good stuff! Where are they??? They don’t exist! Who uses the techtree BR5 smg’s while they can just play AR’s instead? Who plays the Tiger E when they have the Tiger II unlocked??? They are the same BR, but the later stuff are so much better they deserve BR6 instead.

I am encountering them all the time. Maybe you should stop seal clubbing at low BRs and actually play BR5 for while.

@xaos

YOU were screaming “mUh BaLaNcE…” when i suggested BR±2 with BR6 almost 2 months ago, and now you are against of any solution of the compression/powercreep problem of BR5, which is wrecking the balance of top tier.

Wtf? xD

Doesn’t make any sense. I want ±0 MM with current BRs. You wanted ±2 MM with 6 BRs…

Btw. You should calm down.

[noktinnky_noktin]

are you accusing me of suggesting that? cause i never suggest that at all the guy above me seem to suggest that

beside let me make it clear, i like the current soft rule system not whatever this 1-2 3-4 and 5 is

[MissingMayhem13]

Where did you find that tank? Looks dope

[noktinnky_noktin]

it the stalingrad one i havent check if i got one but maybe i do i will check tomorrow (welp nvm just check and it one of those stalingrad owner tank i believe)

[xaos]

@Adamnpee

I am encountering them all the time. Maybe you should stop seal clubbing at low BRs and actually play BR5 for while.

@Adamnpee Yes, because people are grinding and are forced to buy all off the tanks anyways, so why not use the Tiger E while you are recearching the Tiger II? You won’t face different opponents anyways, so grind the squad first and you can upgrade your King Tiger right when you buy it!

@Adamnpee

yet another “tiger 2h argument”

(and that counts for the Pershing and the IS2, so no whining about another “tiger 2h argument” here)

@Adamnpee

Doesn’t make any sense. I want ±0 MM with current BRs. You wanted ±2 MM with 6 BRs…

And i remember you “trying” to explain how a ±0MM can be balanced while not pushing most weapons into obsolesence or skyroketing queue times making the game unplayable. And variety gets trashed regardless… “Sorry”, that can’t be balanced…

@noktinnky_noktin

are you accusing me of suggesting that? cause i never suggest that at all the guy above me seem to suggest that

@noktinnky_noktin No, in talking about people like the guy above you and a few others that want that.

@noktinnky_noktin

beside let me make it clear, i like the current soft rule system not whatever this 1-2 3-4 and 5 is

Me too, and i want it to not stay as a soft rule for long.

[MissingMayhem13]

Pz IV H is literally my favorite to play. So much fun! I also enjoy the Pz III N, I take it into BR V games. That HEAT and HE is absolutely devastating to infantry positions. This update will allow me to play as BR IV more frequently, it’s a welcomed update.