You are wrong, it has been buffed because it was weaker than realistic stats.
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It was always ~135mm pen point blank and could always kill the Jumbo through the MG port regardless
Even across the map
You sometimes had to give it a few shots because of dispersion though
But you were safe since M72 solid shot does fucking nothing unless it hits your ammunition
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Where does that say anything about the PzIV specifically
Thatās just their shitty overpressure mechanic which is very spotty and has been since they made it in War Thunder
Quote the actual line please because Iām not skimming the whole page for it
Buddy, Panzer IV was struggling with the 75mm non slopped KV-1 armour before that patch.
Learn where to aim?
I OHK Tiger I from the side with M72.
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Didnāt mention any of the tanks that got fixed.
That is why I quoted Shivex since he had tested the update.
Thatās a feature of Gaijin games since the KV turret has rounded armor
You railgun through the ufp since the rounded turret is 
Same reason you have to be careful hitting the Pantherās mantlet since any rounded spot is a blackhole most of the time
What?
Yes
You have to hit the fucking ammo to do it since solid shot provides no post-penetration fragmentation
Okay so it was pretty much a lie saying it got buffed like that
Epic
Thanks for clearing that up
that was the 4F2/G not the 4H/J, i say this because they have different guns
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And even then the difference between the two is pretty marginal
The IVs in Stalingrad suffered more from the maps and being glass cannons
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All panzer IV long guns suffered from these issues if I remember right.
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i can not say since stalingrad only featured the kwk 40 l/43 while 4J has the kwk 40 l/48 but i can say is the 40 l/43 could easily cut the through UFP of KV-1 before the pen increase
But, it DID get a patch. I remember because I was so happy it finally worked WELL (not just okayish) against t34s.
The canon did not perform as it should have and so, it received a fix a while ago. (It was just one line among a hundred in a big update and Iām too lazy to find it 
)
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Thatās odd because I never once noticed an issue penning the T-34-85 in Berlin with the IV J
I used it up until the merge as well
The penetration on the long 75 on both the early long one and later always lined up with what I expected from WT
Same experience in Normandy as well using the prem IV J from when I bought it until the end
It performed exactly to expectation
Now if you were to bring up the Pantherās gun bouncing all retarded on the T-34-85 Iād have to agree lmao
It and the horrible rocking is why I stuck with the IV J
And again, I never remember a patch specifically buffing the Panzer IVs beyond generally polishing up tank v tank in general if anything
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You are welcome to think whatever you like.
You are more than welcome to post the patch notes, my dude
i like how no one complained about the T-34E when that had a far better frontal armor than KV-1 
I did 
, DF was lazy and did post any information.
Well, I did.
Itās why back in early Berlin, I cheesed my way with t34-85.
First EVER Berlin match with reds, I scored 14 tank kills, using the SAME t34 without dying pz4 kept just dingging me and I lazily aimed center mass.
I ran out of shells so I killed the last 3ā¦ with HE.
Was that ridiculous
Also I found it thanks to the other link!
Itās the same thread, my memory still works 
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the only toxic thing is the stupidly implemented BR separation.
BR5 vehicles are perfectly ok against each other, but need to be separated from all other BRs.
Perfect Enlisted:
BR 1 & 2
BR 3 & 4
BR 5
Anything else is straight up nonsense.
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Only USSR vs GER
US has gotten left aside with majority BR IV gear at best shoved in V
M2C, Jug, 1919, and M26 being what actually belongs there
Thankfully it looks like theyāll be brought up to snuff in small arms and armor
Hopefully this next patch
prove me if iām wrong , but there are still heavy bombs , explosion pack , TNT charge and anti tank mines that could easily destroy every tank easily
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