Oh, @ZОV-nicolaij1914 , hello. Yeah, if you came here, it means things are really bad with our game. I agree with you, actually. The new card selection system is just unplayable garbage.
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Also moscow manor is based on real life location
Chernyshev estate in Yaropolets
And the monastery might be inspired by Joseph Volokolamsk monastery that was damaged by germans in ww2
Or it could be inspired by New Jerusalem monastery
Also there is Beloe lake, Vysokovo and Voskhod all in moscow althought they barely resemble their real life counterparts
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That’s right, I came here to write my dissatisfaction with the new system.
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Yes, but they’re not iconic in any way. So unless you are Russian living in near area. Those maps have nothing screaming “Battle of Moscow” at all.
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True. I just wanted to note it as i think these locations are interesting to see in real life
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The changes are disgusting, before I could take 2BR and go play in Moscow without Berlin, but now I can’t. Berlin maps are some of the worst in the game and I don’t want to play them, especially on 2BR. I tried how Moscow plays on 5BR, it’s like hell, tanks and planes just don’t let you play.
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I had a lot of fun playing soviets with BR 5 on Monastery and Maisky. Clearly there are some issues with the HE spam in Tunisia, but like they said, those issues can and will be fixed.
Assuming those issues will be fixed, I think this is a great ideea and greatly expands the map pool. Would I prefer new maps over these old ones ? Of course. But if I have to choose between no new maps and these maps, I will always choose the option that keeps the game fresh. Using BR 5 on maps in which I only used BR 2, feel completely different.
Like many others have stated, Monastery, Maisky Forestry and Beloe Lake do not have MOSCOW 1941 stamped on them. They feel like a regular fortress or settlement in eastern Europe.
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*random spamming
That did make some sense, but in that logic the only ironic map in this game is those in Berlin city center (that is, around Reich Chancellery) as it is the only foreigners recognized. Other parts in Berlin could just be some random bombarded German city like Hamburg (One real thing: The Chinese localization of this game assumed that the map River Crossing took place on the Elbe River), Tunisia is anywhere in North Africa or Middle East, Rzhev is same with Stalingrad, as in-game customization approved, and we still don’t know the forrest is Hurtgen or Ardennes, also as in-game customization approved.
Definitely not.
I would even say that Stalingrad is much more iconic for me than Berlin.
And then there’s Normandy.
It could be Tatooine as well.
neither were gewehr 41s during the battle of moscow.
yet those were in enlisted back in the alpha.
neither were ZH29s, yet said rifles were used in the battle of moscow ( inside enlisted ).
Panzer III Bs were outdated and no longer in service when the battle of moscow took place
BA-11s ( which used to be starter tank ) were not used in the battle of moscow.
PPKs never saw moscow and was a proto smg
there’s little evidence to support T50s were involved in the battle of Moscow as well.
and there are many more.
one thing is clear, ( apparently not enough to many people ), you cannot trust the advertisement team. it’s not there to inform you, but to trick you.
which it worked on some people.
oh and yeah, this game was never, nor ever relly has been since it’s conception, up to today, historically accurate / historical accuracy in mind.
and i seriously doubt it ever will.
unless you make it with mods.
which the editor for all of it’s problems that has, you can do basic HA mods.
literally no one is being prevent from making them.
yet you don’t see anyone beside me or the EMC or even other fellow modders making them.
to whom most don’t complain about lack of historical accuracy in enlisted from the base game.
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It’s not about historicity, it’s about entourage. Which is now dead and the game has finally turned into a circus.
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not at all.
( and actually, it is. that is, most claims that it is about HA, but really, it’s about their " muh immersion ". )
most of the " HA " arguments are very subjective personal matters to something that was for the most part, objective.
and most has nothing to do with wtih actual historical accuracy.
only different levels of people trying to come with some cohersive argument about why their idea should be listened.
yet if you all round up the so called " HA " people you’ll get all sort of ideas to whom won’t even agree on others similar iterations.
it’s like turning to fifa for some sort of simulation of footbal.
it simply ain’t the case.
and it all boils down to,
Historical Accuracy = boring for most players and those who asks for it are in the minorty ( me included btw )
Historical Accurate games = Unbalanced. also not very popular.
Historical Accurate games = not financially rewarding unless it’s an RTS
it’s not rocket science.
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the problem is that now the developers have no motivation to make new maps. “Do you want Ukraine of 1943-44? Just imagine that Moscow is Ukraine. Do you want Belarus of 1943-44? Well, imagine that you are running around Belarus, not Moscow.” Instead of giving us new maps, the developers suggest that we ourselves imagine that we are not in Moscow, but where we want.
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that’s a bit of an insane take.
just because all maps are across most br doesn’t mean they cannot appear or have to be generic like veekay would imply.
look at pacific maps.
guardalcanal & gavutu was early war, battle of georgia was a mid war campaign, burma was fought through out, and independently all of these maps years, in enlisted are played across all brs and almost no one bats an eye about it. because people care about gameplay.
or any generic ww2 game out there.
battlefield, cod, and many others.
so really, it’s a made up argument.
they can simply make new maps and expand the amount of maps are being made and played.
it doesn’t matter the years or equipment involved.
it never mattered.
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It is also possible that the reason for doing so is that they are no longer able to create any new maps…
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I’m not sure if you are replying this to me since we talked nothing about mods or player efforts and I’m quite sure in custom modded matches now half of them are historical battles.
But I believe we have discussed things like responsibility before. Enlisted is free to lure players by claiming that this game is both balancing and historical, and people who got fooled earlier are free to ridicule anyone who got fooled later, but the anyone who got fooled must accept the fact that they got fooled and believe it is a fact that everything is nothing but just a trick according to their own arguments.
i doubt that.
granted, last major update was kinda “lacking” on the map regard.
but either tight schedule, or things not ready ( like they usually are. ).
which does not excuse their behavior.
but outright not being able to do new maps is a bit extreme.
no, it was to prove a point 
that, i cannot excuse either.
i was one of them 
but, being slow in accepting/realizing doesn’t do anyone good.
now, as i stated, the only way for pure HA is through customs games and mods.
and the largest room in the world, is one for improvement.
which said people could gather and rally up for those changes and improvements. rather than constantly fight a never ending and rather pointless battle for " making enlisted HA. "
with no after through or realizations of what it would imply nor the feasibility of it now that we are kinda too deep into the rabbit hole.
let alone how rather unpopular that is.
trust me, “we” back in the alpha tried to do just that and it didn’t worked ( to no one surprise ) then if you truly believe and want something, you should be able to make it with what you have.
and shows how people prefers to complain than be the change or do something with what they have.
as much i don’t enjoy enlisted as i used to ( the veteran life uh… ) the editor is the answer for everything.
except it’s kinda lacking, and over neglected.
THAT, should get most people attention rather than " game is bad / game is dying / i want my faction more stronger than yours / i want HA etc "
ps, not directly at you.
let it be clear.
a wise man once said:
-W. Churchill ( probably )
I also played a defense in Tunisia, and although I got a lot of kills in short time (over a hundred, the rest weren’t bad either), the attacker’s ticket didn’t go below 800! The game probably expects me to get 500 kills to win.
Better idea: Special Event.
We used to have events like Fair Fight which have alternate matchmakings and and won’t disturb regular players for any thoughts they have towards this TEST.
I do expect a leader board and some other rewards can lure enough players for whatever datas you want to collect.
(And yes, DON’T put such a TEST when you already launched TWO EVENTS for players are grinding.)
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I don’t see why people shouldn’t complain about a change that is, by definition, completely unnecessary. And nothing at all would have happened if things had stayed the way they were.
Plus, I don’t understand why they’re testing this before we’ve been told how the preferred map system will work.
Therefore, I can only address this testing from the perspective that something like a preferred map system might not even exist.
Because I simply can’t put it in the right context.
And I definitely do not want lose ability to avoid Tunisia maps.
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