Testing expanded BR for maps

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neither were gewehr 41s during the battle of moscow.
yet those were in enlisted back in the alpha.

neither were ZH29s, yet said rifles were used in the battle of moscow ( inside enlisted ).

Panzer III Bs were outdated and no longer in service when the battle of moscow took place

BA-11s ( which used to be starter tank ) were not used in the battle of moscow.

PPKs never saw moscow and was a proto smg

there’s little evidence to support T50s were involved in the battle of Moscow as well.
and there are many more.

one thing is clear, ( apparently not enough to many people ), you cannot trust the advertisement team. it’s not there to inform you, but to trick you.
which it worked on some people.
oh and yeah, this game was never, nor ever relly has been since it’s conception, up to today, historically accurate / historical accuracy in mind.
and i seriously doubt it ever will.

unless you make it with mods.
which the editor for all of it’s problems that has, you can do basic HA mods.
literally no one is being prevent from making them.
yet you don’t see anyone beside me or the EMC or even other fellow modders making them.
to whom most don’t complain about lack of historical accuracy in enlisted from the base game.

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It’s not about historicity, it’s about entourage. Which is now dead and the game has finally turned into a circus.

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not at all.
( and actually, it is. that is, most claims that it is about HA, but really, it’s about their " muh immersion ". )

most of the " HA " arguments are very subjective personal matters to something that was for the most part, objective.

and most has nothing to do with wtih actual historical accuracy.
only different levels of people trying to come with some cohersive argument about why their idea should be listened.

yet if you all round up the so called " HA " people you’ll get all sort of ideas to whom won’t even agree on others similar iterations.

it’s like turning to fifa for some sort of simulation of footbal.

it simply ain’t the case.

and it all boils down to,

Historical Accuracy = boring for most players and those who asks for it are in the minorty ( me included btw )

Historical Accurate games = Unbalanced. also not very popular.

Historical Accurate games = not financially rewarding unless it’s an RTS

it’s not rocket science.

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the problem is that now the developers have no motivation to make new maps. “Do you want Ukraine of 1943-44? Just imagine that Moscow is Ukraine. Do you want Belarus of 1943-44? Well, imagine that you are running around Belarus, not Moscow.” Instead of giving us new maps, the developers suggest that we ourselves imagine that we are not in Moscow, but where we want.

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that’s a bit of an insane take.

just because all maps are across most br doesn’t mean they cannot appear or have to be generic like veekay would imply.

look at pacific maps.

guardalcanal & gavutu was early war, battle of georgia was a mid war campaign, burma was fought through out, and independently all of these maps years, in enlisted are played across all brs and almost no one bats an eye about it. because people care about gameplay.

or any generic ww2 game out there.
battlefield, cod, and many others.

so really, it’s a made up argument.

they can simply make new maps and expand the amount of maps are being made and played.
it doesn’t matter the years or equipment involved.

it never mattered.

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It is also possible that the reason for doing so is that they are no longer able to create any new maps…

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I’m not sure if you are replying this to me since we talked nothing about mods or player efforts and I’m quite sure in custom modded matches now half of them are historical battles.

But I believe we have discussed things like responsibility before. Enlisted is free to lure players by claiming that this game is both balancing and historical, and people who got fooled earlier are free to ridicule anyone who got fooled later, but the anyone who got fooled must accept the fact that they got fooled and believe it is a fact that everything is nothing but just a trick according to their own arguments.

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i doubt that.

granted, last major update was kinda “lacking” on the map regard.

but either tight schedule, or things not ready ( like they usually are. ).

which does not excuse their behavior.
but outright not being able to do new maps is a bit extreme.

no, it was to prove a point :slight_smile:

that, i cannot excuse either.

i was one of them :joy:
but, being slow in accepting/realizing doesn’t do anyone good.

now, as i stated, the only way for pure HA is through customs games and mods.
and the largest room in the world, is one for improvement.

which said people could gather and rally up for those changes and improvements. rather than constantly fight a never ending and rather pointless battle for " making enlisted HA. "
with no after through or realizations of what it would imply nor the feasibility of it now that we are kinda too deep into the rabbit hole.

let alone how rather unpopular that is.

trust me, “we” back in the alpha tried to do just that and it didn’t worked ( to no one surprise ) then if you truly believe and want something, you should be able to make it with what you have.

and shows how people prefers to complain than be the change or do something with what they have.

as much i don’t enjoy enlisted as i used to ( the veteran life uh… ) the editor is the answer for everything.
except it’s kinda lacking, and over neglected.

THAT, should get most people attention rather than " game is bad / game is dying / i want my faction more stronger than yours / i want HA etc "

ps, not directly at you.
let it be clear.

a wise man once said:

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-W. Churchill ( probably )

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I also played a defense in Tunisia, and although I got a lot of kills in short time (over a hundred, the rest weren’t bad either), the attacker’s ticket didn’t go below 800! The game probably expects me to get 500 kills to win.

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Better idea: Special Event.

We used to have events like Fair Fight which have alternate matchmakings and and won’t disturb regular players for any thoughts they have towards this TEST.

I do expect a leader board and some other rewards can lure enough players for whatever datas you want to collect.

(And yes, DON’T put such a TEST when you already launched TWO EVENTS for players are grinding.)

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I don’t see why people shouldn’t complain about a change that is, by definition, completely unnecessary. And nothing at all would have happened if things had stayed the way they were.

Plus, I don’t understand why they’re testing this before we’ve been told how the preferred map system will work.

Therefore, I can only address this testing from the perspective that something like a preferred map system might not even exist.
Because I simply can’t put it in the right context.

And I definitely do not want lose ability to avoid Tunisia maps.

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i got carried away i suppose.

so, i’m not against people not liking this test phase.

it’s in their right to do so.

" I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It "

it’s completely fine.

but for someone to use the HA excuses in 2025 it is borderline useless, and kinda dumb.
especially on these maps.

it’s just a straw man argument and shows how some people are completely out of touch.
like realistically, this game is not historical accurate.
you may disapprove with your " immersion " type of argument, which it’s okay, but still subjective.
and as it goes for this type of test, objectivity is what matter.

otherwise it just causes futile conversations.
if you really want any of that, go support custom content and customs games / editor in general.
yet you don’t see them.

so really shows how they really care uh.

personally, i’m not sure of any of that will work.
( i probably have skipped that message. )

and that’s completely fine.

but looking for something that isn’t designed to be, not so much.

that’s all :slight_smile:

( also, i did enjoyed high br tunisia and moscow. but i’m not going to cry over if those will stay at low br )

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No matter how the game loses its fans, the new selection of cards is terrible.

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At least he finished the battle and got good score and finally won. but you? You ran away.
From ParaDivison video:

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Yeah, I think so too.

Low BRs are full of equipment that’s mid war and later. We have more VS stuff on lower BR than we have on high BR.
So if they realistically want to work on HA to reflect map pool. They should first make BRs reflect the years of deployment in the first place. Until then addressing HA correlation with maps makes no sense at all.

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In stack, what a proud hero.
He should get the Medal of Honor.

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We don’t need to give medals to real soldiers, we need to execute deserters, those who say on the forum that this change is good and run away from the same battle in the game.

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You larp too much.
Besides, people should not be impressed by parapleb playing stack and not deserting. That is not impressive. That is pathetic.

Why though?

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“Why make 3 map a year for 3 different BR categories (low, medium and high) if you can make 1 map a year that will fit all of these BRs”

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they can simply make " cards " regardless of where those would fit and eventually give them to all brs?

like… they already have done for the pacific, ardenne, and rzhev ?