T 34 instead of t 28

And give the panzer 4 or 3 10 rounds a minute? This isn’t balance my friend

I can promise you germany had bad crews too

If the Pz4 has a hard time penetrating most stuff due to having a very stubby barrel, giving it a fast reload to let it at least lob the HE quicker is perfectly fine.

This isnt even related to bad crews. It is related to turret size. The T-34’s turret was fucking tiny with the 2 members it had being very cramped and the Pz4’s turret was large enough to confortably fit 3 crew.

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Might as well add break downs for tank…

Yeah but if we want to balance the T-34 we gotta give the Pz 4 HEAT and it won’t have hard time using it…

But Volkssturm squads in Berlin can be easily implemented by creating a squad armed with older/civilian weapons. Of course they would not have child models. We even had VG-5 in Berlin test for Volkssturm.
What is a problem here - lack of child soldiers doesn’t give any side unfair advantage. Whereas bringing T-34 and KVs without any nerfs (compared to War thunder) definetly would. Those human mistakes and technical problems were things that allowed Germans to even fight those tanks, aż they were much better than anything that Germans could bring into battle.

One of them was gunner-commander which means that he was bad at doing both of those jobs.

No if you make the reload on the T-34 slow enough, the Pz4 can just roll up to it and shoot the turret / sides, removing the need for HEAT, asuming the T-34 doesnt aim properly and does not take out the Pz4 in a single shot.

well technically the childs would have smaller hitboxes and thus giving Germany an advantage but just the idea of adding them is just bullshit so yes, better not add them.

No what allowed the German fight those tanks was how random battles are. Test on the valley of tears shown that 3/4 times tanks don’t meet each other frontly

The kids in berlin had 1 hand grenade and maybe pistol pls don’t add anything like them

Hey you came up with this bullshit idea lmfao.

True lmao just don’t add human mistakes into game…

A T-34 reloading slowly isnt a human mistake. It is physical limitations due to the tiny turret. The shell could barely fit between the breech and the back wall, was stowed in akward places, and there was no turret basket so the loader would be slowed down by that as well, as the shell wouldn’t always lie in the same relative position.

Yeah but some crews been able of reloading faster even with those physical limitations

But they do in Enlisted. There is no way of cutting supply lines and more complicated, large scale manouvers that were key to German Blitzkrieg. So we can’t just throw perfectly working T-34 into that and expect it not to be OP.

It won’t be OP if the devs will add back somethings they removed for the CBT…

We should avoid adding super crews just as much as avoiding shit crews. T-34 AVERAGE fire rate was 2 rounds per minute in combat, aka 30 seconds, compared to its <10sec in war thunder. Pz4 AVERAGE was around 10 shots a minute, aka 6 seconds reload, compared to its 4 second reload in war thunder.

And dont try telling me trippling a reload speed is not the same as adding super soldiers :rofl:

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Honestly at this point I have no idea what to do the T-34 can ba balanced but this got so confusing… It shouldn’t get 30 seconds reload time fro sure tho :joy:

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Some info:

  • pz IV was actually anti inf tank, pz III was meant to be “MBT”, so I don’t know if T-34 vs pz IV is good comparison
  • germans considered tank vs tank combat as waste of vehicle, infantry was meant to destroy enemy armour