T 34 instead of t 28

We already have better panzers in game smh and HEAT isn’t very effective ammunition against infantry…
Chack what tanks we have in game…

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No they are not in game lmao. That’s alpha.
They got removed for a reason.
And the HEAT round would in fact work pretty well against infantry, as it still is partially an HE round. The blast is smaller because it’s focussed into one side, aka the AT part, but there is still an HE effect.

No they didn’t, they got removed because we are in CBT they said that they gonna add more levels (what means more tanks) when we go OBT and even more at full release SMH

it is not officially confirmed we are getting any of these tanks back.

It isn’t confirmed that we won’t. And in fact there’s bigger chance that we’ll get them because they already started adding them (panzer 4 F-1 and T-28) smh

You know sometimes you should leave bais a side the T-34 won’t be OP and you’ll be able of killing it frontly.

these have been suggested for a while now and are actually pretty balanced, due to having less armor penetration but better HE.

Or maybe we should nerf it from war thunder level stuff to historical level stuff:
Make the sight extremely narrow, as on early models they would often rush production and not actually install a sight and only drill a hole.
Make the reload very long (15-30 seconds), as the early models had very cramped turrets, with an average fire rate of 2 rounds a minute in the field, despite being capable of 6-7 rounds per minutes in a test with the gun outside of the turret.

I don’t think they added those tanks because they been suggested. They added those tanks because we are getting close to OBT and like they said they need to add more levels. Why it’s so hard for people here to say that they are worng…

Why is it so hard for you to actually use factually correct arguments?
literally all I have been doing here is debunking your arguments because they are wrong lmao.

  • The pz3e and pz4f1 cannot pen the T-34 hull
  • We got no HEAT for Pz4
  • We got no Pz3J
  • We got none of those “better tanks”
  • They have not confirmed these tanks will return

Instead of using arguments that are pure bullshit and saying “devs will do X”, use the stuff we actually have in game right now. You can not control the actions of the devs.

And the funny thing is I am not even against the addition of the T-34. I just don’t want people to just spout lies just to get their way.

I am fine with adding the T-34 as long as it’s stats are nerfed towards historical values instead of the more arcade-like values from war thunder.

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No no no I am saying that it’s possible for the devs to balance the T-34 using things that already in the game/were in the game. And what is your source for those historical values? Wikipedia isn’t a source…

There are absolute tons of historical accounts of the early T-34s being trash, and while I myself do not have direct access to them, there are plenty of people that have and are credible to the point that they can be used as secondary sources.

For example, the Chieftan.

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He’s right the T-34-76 1941 did had this problems but we also have the T-34-76 40 PRE WAR tank. And we shouldn’t take crews into count for a lot of reasons…

which is even worse :joy:

Other than making it balanced?

Because I don’t want to kill kids in berlin.

That’s completely unrelated to crew skills?

Yes it is the kids in berlin weren’t well trained / well equipped soldiers so from this perspective german soldiers in berlin should have 1 hand grenade…

You aren’t supposed to count crew skill because it’s different in every tank… And crew

If you gonna have this logic we might as well say that americans get to spawn 20 tanks at the same time, with the rest following you under AI control, because they had so many more tanks.

That stuff is completely unrelated to this topic and completely irrelevant to how Enlisted is balanced

Yeah lol that’s my point you aren’t supposed to get into human mistakes/ difference it’s like saying that you know how long it takes to load main cannon (without auto loader) no you don’t because it’s different in every tank and crew so you take the best option

the studies showed that the fire rate of the early T-34s were around 2 rounds a minute. Instead of picking the best option, we can pick the option that is the most balanced for enlisted.