T-28 is a big turn off

Mess Room
42

The T28 makes all of this worse. Panzer III N needs to be given more powerful cumulative shells and on BR3. Or mobility should be worsened.

43

No, that doesn’t make any sense. Pz III N already has way worse mobility than T28 and M8 Scott. Only Ho-I has worse mobility than Pz III N.

I have no clue why Pz III N specifically out of all 75mm howitzer tanks should be put to BR3. It is definitely not some uber OP tank.

1 Like
44

ahaha. That’s funny. Are you serious?

no, that’s what it is

45

Wait what is the point of panzer 4 f1 then? If panzer 4 e has better armour, same gun and gets unlocked earlier

46

T-28 literally has nearly the double power ratio. 20 vs 13. At least according to WT :man_shrugging:

Pz III N has slightly higher top speed. But that doesn’t make it more mobile, lol.

You clearly have no idea what are you even talking about.

3 Likes
47

Better (+20) turret armor.
Won’t make any different tho.

1 Like
48

I’ll say firing nuke +50% faster is way better than 2 extra mg

49

So I’ll fire smoke grenades at them.

50

You cant poke your head out for both the T-28E or the T-50

51

Thanks bro for that in depth advice. I usually stay afar and lob HE shells to the enemies, I guess the 28E fits me more than the 50.

But as you say always move in the T-50, and flank the enemies, wont the enemies catch you easily and explosive pack you or do something to harm you? It always happen when I get too close to the battlefield with tanks, I get caught out and the tanks just get exploded. So that has evolved my playstyle to camp and lob HE shells.

52

see video above. you certainly can

1 Like
53

I have an idea of ​​what I’m talking about. I played on these tanks. The Pz III N is much more mobile.

54

And what makes this tank so mobile in comparison to T-28?

55

You have either never played any of these tanks or you are trolling.
I happily share some replays with you, T-28E is very OP, easily as good as the III N.
III N and T-28E have very similarly performing guns.
T-28E has 3 MGs and 6 crew, 60mm armour all around, but ammo placement is poor thus a clean penetration in the hull can blow it up.
III N doesn’t suffer from this design flaw but it has 2 MGs, 5 crew, 70mm on hull and 50mm on turret.
Only real advantage of III N is the possibility to angle the armour and the 7 HEAT shells which it desperately needs against BR3 tanks while T-28E literally can’t face any BR1-3 it couldn’t frontally pen.

2 Likes
56

Id also add that the t28 e can angle too or has spaced armor. :grin:

I.e the mg turret and comrades head can soak up launchers and AT rounds :stuck_out_tongue:

Bottom line is they are both great

2 Likes
57

They are. Those who say otherwise…
I believe are boos who think the grass is always greener the other side of the fence.

2 Likes
58

They can, sure. But, another bit of advice - try going to the practice map (above the huge start button, change the game mode type), and drive around in different tanks.

But, you won’t get the true feel of them till you go PVP and have guys running around you. The two biggest issues with tanks, IMO, is visibility and speed. You can correct issues with accuracy if you can survive long enough to take multiple shots. Ditto on penetration. But, you can’t fix anything if you’re tank is blown up.

Yes, explosives will nuke you, but some tanks are faster than others. And some tanks have better armor than others. (But almost no tank has any armor underneath…take that into consideration while fleeing…)

Just takes a lot of practice (use the practice game mode) and I can’t emphasize enough to upgrade your tank. Also, took me far longer than it should have to change my tankers to optimize the perks they had to the positions they were in. (As in, probably 50 times hopping into a tank before realizing it was rather important…) You want the perks for loader on the guy who’s the loader on your tank, ditto the driver, etc. /smh Is obvious in retrospect, but I’ve never had to do that in any other game before, so…

I won’t say I NEVER stay in the back and lob shells - sometimes, it’s just irresistible (like playing the Germans in Normandy), but I personally like to play infantry support far more. There’s more to playing a tank than just racking up kills. I like taking out the other side’s tanks/APCs, etc. I like baiting infantry to come after me, which means they aren’t assaulting the point - or I’m giving friendly infantry cover. I enjoy taking out machine guns/nests, again, to protect friendly infantry.

So, yes, explosives will definitely wipe you out. Avoid being in places where you can’t see them coming, to improve your survivability.

I do hope you get to where you’re doing more infantry support though - to me it’s both more challenging, but a lot more fun. :slight_smile:

1 Like
59

While I agree with you that the IIIN is rightfully placed in BR2 (though, I do believe it’s one of, if not the, strongest tanks in BR2) - I think you have the stats wrong on these tanks. When you said 60MM, I had to go look. The IIIN has like 60% more armor and 40% more speed than the T28E, and it also has smoke.

Here are the stats on the 28E, the IIIN and I tossed in the T50 b/c I like it and it doesn’t get enough street cred :slight_smile:

t28E
IIIN
t-50

60

You got it wrong with the E.

It got spaced armour… the stats don’t show it correctly (it’s not written normal armour + added armour)

So you only see the base armour in stats without the added welded plates protection.

Same as with pz3N. The hull is 53 PLUS 20mm. (But the turret is poop like for all axis tanks)

To be certain go in armour xray mode and you will see the added protection on those, and how many mm it gives.

61

Interesting - I do see on the IIIN how it’s got seemingly extra layers on the side, over tracks and you can see it on the turret. On the T-28E, I see in the different pictures comparing the two (28 vs 28E), if you look closely, it does have some layers here and there which give it some added protection, though it’s hard to say how much (I see in the description, they call it “extra shielding” I wouldn’t say it’s 20MM overall though, as it’s too spotty).

I have been coming around more on the T-28E, mostly b/c I know it can stand toe-to-toe with more of the German tanks than anything else the Russians have (I have to run around a lot in a T-50 to survive if I see an N on the horizon, more often than not.). But, I given how many times I’ve been one shotted in the T-28E vs. the IIIN, I’d still have to give the nod to the N (by far, honestly).

Let’s put it this way, the T-28E certainly feels like it has a lot less armor than the IIIN - I just don’t know how much. But, it’s still worth using, if you’re in need of a BR 2 heavy tank.