Suggetion for East-Asian War: The Shanghai Campaign

Suggestion: Shanghai Campaign 1937 (China vs Japan)

Shanghai settlement, before war


Map of Shanghai, publisshed by Japanese newspaper

Battle of Shanghai <Chinese: Battle of Songhu [淞滬會戰] / Japanese: 2nd Shanghai Incident [第二次上海事変]> is one of the first battle during 2nd Chino-Japanese War. This battle was consisted with fierce urban warfare caused and landing operations. Also, both military forces operated lots of naval vessels, aircrafts and armored vehicles.
After this bloody three-month battle, Japanese forces captured Shanghai and start the invasion to Nanjing - the capital of Republic of China.

Why Shanghai?

As you know, during Asia-Pacific war, there are lots of famous battle like Singapore, Malaya, Guadalcanal, Imphal, Leyte, Iwojima, Okinawa etc. However, for the game Enlisted these battles have several serious problems.

  1. Disproportionate armored vehicles
    Sadly, Japanese does not have decent tanks which is able to fought against allied tanks. For example, even the latest Japanese tank, Type 97 Medium Tank with New Turret, is incomparable to M4 Sherman tank, and it will struggle even when fighting the M5A1. Also, Japanese anti-tank weapons are limited.
  2. Lack of Submachine Gun
    In this game, “Assaulter” troops with submachine gun is required, but Japanese army did not had it. Although Type 100 SMG was developed, but it is quite rare weapon. Nevertheless, it is very unnatural for Japanese squadron with a large number of submachine guns to appear.

But, if implement Shanghai Campaign, these problems will be solved.

  1. Armored Vehicles
    Relatively both forces had balanced armored vehicles. Both forces often used small armored cars with heavy machine guns which is effective to infantry. Also, both army have balanced tank: Vickers 6-ton tank type B and Type 89 Medium Tank Ko. Both light-armored tank have enough weapon to destroy each tanks: 47 mm and 57 mm gun.
  2. Submachine Gun
    Shanghai Special Naval Land Force - IJN’s urban warfare force in Shanghai have lots of submachine guns different to other army forces. If implement squadron of SNLF, we can get several submachine guns with historical unit!

Additionally, there’s further more unique advantages.
In that time, Shanghai was huge international city with very modern buildings. Urban battles in a city with modern tall buildings like Shanghai are bit rare in WW2 and very interesting for lots of players.

Map of the battle (from official war history of Japan)

This map shows position of both army and operations. Japanese fleet were moored in Huangpu River.
http://www.nids.mod.go.jp/military_history_search/SoshoView?kanno=072#

Translation of battle progress in this drawing
Note: This was written by Shanghai SNLF officer. “We/Our” means Japanese, and “Enemy” means Chinese. Also, famous battle for the Chinese side (eg. battle of Sihang Warehoue) are not often mentioned.

  • August 13: Enemy [Chinese] attack at bayu bridge (八宇橋). All forces start the battle.
  • August 13~15: Enemy focused main attack point to our [Japanese] west wing intensely. We fight hardly and repel it.
  • August 16: Enemy main attack point focused to our north side. We fight hardly. We attack enemy hardly and repel them with reinforcements from warships.
  • August 18~25: Enemy entered into east Yangshupu (楊樹浦)area. Our elite reinforcements deal with and repel to outside of the settlement.
  • August 23: Some part of our west detachment force landed Wusong (呉淞) area, and then landed army’s troops.
  • September 6~13: Advance east front and capture City Government.
  • September 21~October 6: After fierce urban warfare, Beiichuanlu (北四川路) front advanced to Songhu Railway (淞沪铁路).
  • October 27: Clean up Zhabei (閘北) area
  • October 31: Destroy enemy remnants in Sihang Warehouse (四行倉庫)
  • November 5: Army Yanagigawa-unit landed north coast of Hangzhou
  • November 11: Clean up Pudong (浦東) area

Weapons

Generally, Japanese rifles have low-recoil but slightly inferior in power and range than Chinese. It caused by difference of rifle cartridge: Japanese used 6.5x50mm Arisaka, but Chinese used 7.92x57 mm Mauser. It will be advantage for Chinese infantries. But, 6.5 mm is still enough to kill enemy, so perhaps for some players low recoil will be good advantage.
In other hand, Japanese armored vehicles will be better than Chinese one. Especially, Type 89 MT’s large 57 mm cannon will be effective for support infantries.
In case of aviation, Chinese fighters have large bombs but Japanese didn’t. It will be good advantage for Chinese.

Infantry Weapons

It was one of the first major battle between Chinese and Japanese during 2nd Chino-Japanese war. Japanese had bout 300,000 troops, and Chinese had about 750,000 troops.
In case of Japanese side, defend of concession was roll of Japanese navy. Because of it, there are the largest SNLF, Shanghai Special Navy Land Force. (SNLF is Japanese navy’s unique small army. Mainly they are garrison force, but some SNLF have armored vehicles, paratroopers, marries etc.)

Note: To be honesty, I’m not familiar with Chinese infantry weapons. Because of it, I could not find information about sniper rifle, motor etc. Also, perhaps there are additional rifles still be left.

Japanese

Rifles

30th Year Type Infantry Rifle [三十年式歩兵銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 700 m/s
    • Weight: 3.85 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR 35th Year Type Naval Rifle cartridge

Japanese standard rifle during Russo-Japanese war.
Since 1905, this gun was replaced by Type 38 infantry rifles and moved for training gun. Also, some of them were exported to allied countries during WWI. During Asia-Pacific war, it was used for military training at high school.

35th Year Type Naval Rifle [三十五年式海軍銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 700 m/s
    • Weight: 3.85 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR 35th Year Type Naval Rifle cartridge

Infantry rifle for Japanese navy. Based upon 30th Year Type Infantry Rifle, but sight changed from ladder-sight to tangent-sight.

Type 44 Cavalry Rifle [四四式騎銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 708 m/s
    • Weight: 3.3 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR Type 38 cartridge

Shorter variant of Type 38 rifle for cavalry, artillery, logistics, military police, paratrooper etc. Also, sometimes infantry used this gun.

Type 38 Short Rifle [三八式短小銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: - m/s
    • Weight: - kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR 30th Year Type cartridge

Rare short variant of Type 38 infantry rifle. The length of the barrel was between that of the Type 44 cavalry rifle and the Type 38 infantry rifle.

Type 38 Infantry Rifle (Early) [三八式歩兵銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 762 m/s
    • Weight: 3.73 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR 30th Year Type cartridge

Japanese standard rifle during Asia-Pacific War.
Early model does not have guard for front sight.

Type 38 Infantry Rifle (Middle)

  • Specification: same as above

Japanese standard rifle during Asia-Pacific War.
Middle model have guard for front sight.

Type 38 Infantry Rifle (Late)

  • Specification: same as above

Japanese standard rifle during Asia-Pacific War.
Late model have modified stock butt.

Sniper Rifles

Type 38 Modified Sniper Rifle [三八式改狙撃銃]

  • Specification: Similar to Type 97

High precision Type 38 infantry rifle selected from already-produced rifles. Implemented modification similar to Type 97 sniper rifle.
Note: Type 97 was adopted in February 3, 1938 so modified type 38 will be appears after it. Actually it will not see service in Battle of Shanghai.

Type 97 Sniper Rifle [九七式狙撃銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 762 m/s
    • Weight: 4.45 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR Type 38 cartridge

High precision Type 38 infantry rifle selected from production lines. For sniper uses, equipped scope and changed bolt handle’s shape. Different to Type 38 modified, it engraved Type 97.
Note: This gun was adopted in February 3, 1938. Actually it did not see service in Battle of Shanghai.

Submachine Gun

In that time, only Japanese Navy Land Forces are used it. Japanese Army also imported experimentally but they did not adopted.
Also, those submachine guns were modified to able to equip bayonets.

Bergman-type automatic pistol MP18 [ベ式自動拳銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.65 mm
    • Velocity: 380 m/s
    • Weight: 4.18 kg
    • Fire rate: 350-500 rpm
    • Magazine: 50 bullets
    • Action: Automatic
    • Ammunition: 7.65×21mm Parabellum

Shanghai SNLF was unique naval troop regiment optimized for urban warfare. Because of it, Shanghai SNLF become the first Japanese military force to equip submachinegun. Japanese navy called it Bergman-type automatic pistol (ベ式自動拳銃).
Bergmann MP18 was imported by Japanese Navy since 1931 and used by Shanghai SNLF. Also, Japanese Army was not adopted it, but MP18 was used for reference to develop Type 100 submachinegun.

Bergman-type automatic pistol MP28 [ベ式自動拳銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.65 mm
    • Velocity: 380 m/s
    • Weight: 4.0 kg
    • Fire rate: 500-600 rpm
    • Magazine: 50 bullets
    • Action: Automatic
    • Ammunition: 7.65×21mm Parabellum

Haenel MP28. Japanese navy imported this gun for navy land forces and called Bergman-type automatic pistol (ベ式自動拳銃).

** Steyr-type Automatic Pistol S1-100 [ス式自動拳銃]**

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.65 mm
    • Velocity: 410 m/s
    • Weight: 4.25 kg
    • Magazine: 20 bullets
    • Action: Automatic
    • Ammunition: 7.65×21mm Parabellum

Steyr-Solothurn S1-100. Japanese navy imported this gun for navy land forces and called Steyr-type automatic pistol (ス式自動拳銃).

Light Machine Gun

11th Year Type Light Machine Gun [十一年式軽機関銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 736 m/s
    • Magazine: 30 bullets
    • Fire rate: 500 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 10.3 kg
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR Type 38 cartridge

Japanese light machine gun used since 1920s.

Type 96 Light Machine Gun [九六式軽機関銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 735 m/s
    • Magazine: 30 bullets
    • Fire rate: 550 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 10.2 kg
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR Type 38 cartridge

Successor of 11th Year Type LMG.

Heavy Weapons

Type 89 Heavy Grenade Launcher [八九式重擲弾筒]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 50 mm
    • Velocity: - m/s
    • Weight: 4.7 kg
    • Number of shell: 18 ammo per one troop
    • Ammunition:
      • Type 89 HE (range 670 m)
        • Weight: 800 g
        • Explosive: TNT 150g
      • 10th Year Type Grenade (range 200 m)
      • Type 91 Grenade (range 200 m)

Japanese standard light infantry motor/grenade launcher. This gun can use not only 50 mm Type 89 HE but also able to use normal grenades. Normally it was placed on the ground at a fixed firing angle of 45 degrees, but in an emergency it could fire grenades or shells at point targets while braced horizontally against a tree or building.
Grenade squadron consisted with 3 troops. Each troops bring 18 shells, total 54 ammo.

Type 93 Small Flamethrower [九三式小火焔発射機]

  • Specification
    • Fuel: 25 kg
    • Range: 23-27 m
    • Weight: 20 kg

Japanese standard flamethrower. Later it was replaced by modified version, Type 100 flamethrower.

Grenades

Type 91 Grenade [九一式手榴弾]

  • Specification
    • Weight: 530 g
    • Explosive: TNT 65 g
    • Fuse: 7-8 seconds

Hand grenade for infantry uses as hand grenade, rifle grenade and Type 89 heavy grenade launcher’s ammunition.

Pistol

14th Year Type Pistol [十四年式拳銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 8 mm
    • Velocity: 325 m/s
    • Weight: 0.89 kg
    • Magazine: 8 bullets
    • Action: semi-auto
    • Ammunition: 8x22mm 14th Year Type Pistol Cartridge

Japanese automatic pistol adopted 1925. Mainly used by machine gunner, military police, motorcycle drivers, tanker and pilots. Also, during occupation of Japan it was used for Japanese police’s equipment.

Type 94 Pistol [九四式拳銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 8 mm
    • Velocity: 284 m/s
    • Weight: 0.72 kg
    • Magazine: 6 bullets
    • Action: semi-auto
    • Ammunition: 8x22mm 14th Year Type Pistol Cartridge

Japanese pistol for officers to unify their equipment. Also it was used by used by machine gunner, military police, motorcycle drivers, tanker and pilots. Also, during occupation of Japan it was used for Japanese police’s equipment.

Melee weapon

Type 95 Military Sword [九五式軍刀]

  • Specification
    • Length: 960 mm
    • Weight: 1.63 kg

Standard military Japanese sword. It was so-called Samurai sword. Recently, these swords are conceivable as symbol of Japanese militarism.

Engineer’s weapon

Anti-Aircraft Gun:
Hotchkiss 13 mm Anti-Aircraft Machine Gun [ホ式十三粍高射機関銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 13.2 mm
    • Velocity: 800 m/s
    • Magazine: 30 bullets
    • Fire rate: 450 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 26 kg
    • Ammunition: 13.2x99mm Type 92 Ball, Type 92 AP, Type 92 Tracer and Type 92 Incendiary

Japanese army’s anti-aircraft cannon. During Battle of Shanghai, they mounted it on the rooftops of buildings for anti-aircraft uses.
Japanese navy also adopted this gun and called Type 93 13 mm machine gun.

Anti-Tank Gun:
Type 94 37 mm Cannon [九四式三十七粍砲]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 37 mm
    • Velocity: 700 m/s
    • Ammunition
      • Type 94 AP
        • Penetration: 30 mm @ 350 m
        • Explosive: 10 g
      • Type 94 HE

Japanese standard anti-tank gun adopted in 1934 to replace 11th year type direct-fire infantry gun.

Heavy Machine Gun:
Type 92 Heavy Machine Gun [九二式重機関銃]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.7 mm
    • Velocity: 732 m/s
    • Magazine: 30 bullets
    • Fire rate: 450 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 27.6 kg (include tripod: 55.3 kg)
      • Ammunition: 7.7x58mmSR Type 92 Ball Cartridge

Japanese standard heavy machine gun to replace 6.5 mm 3rd Year Type machine gun.

Chinese

Rifles

Hanyang Type 88 Rifle [漢陽八八式步槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: 600 m/s
    • Weight: 4.06 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 7.92×57mm Mauser

Chinese first domestic-production bolt-action rifle used since Qing dynasty. After Zhongzheng rifle was adopted, RoC try to replace it but because of Japanese invasion their project was delayed and production was continued until 1944.

First-Year Type Rifle [元年式步槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.8 mm
    • Velocity: 650m/s
    • Weight: 4.09 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 6.8x57 mm Mauser

License production variant of Mauser M1898 with 6.5x57 mm cartridge. Similar to Japan, at that time, Chinese people were small, so they chose one with a small recoil.

4th Year Type Rifle [四年式步槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: 878m/s
    • Weight: 4.09 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 7.92×57mm Mauser

7.92 mm variant of first-year type rifle.

Zhongzheng Rifle [中正式步槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: 810 m/s
    • Weight: 4.08 kg
    • Magazine: 5 bullets
    • Action: Bolt Action
    • Ammunition: 7.92×57mm Mauser

Also called “Chiang Kai-shek rifle”. (Zhongzheng is courtesy name [字] of Chiang Kai-shek.)
It was license-production variant of Mauser Model 24 rifle. Compare to Japanese Type 38, stopping power, effective range, nd weight was superior.

ZH-29 Rifle [ZH-29步槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: 808 m/s
    • Weight: 4.5 kg
    • Magazine: 5/10/25 bullets
    • Action: semi-auto
    • Ammunition: 7.92×57mm Mauser

Check Slovakian semi-auto rifle manufactured by Zbrojovka Brno. Before 2nd Chino-Japanese war, Chinese imported this gun. Japanese also captured from them and Tokyo Gas Electric Ind. copied it, but it was not adopted.

Assault weapon

In that time, only Japanese Navy Land Forces are used it. Japanese Army also imported experimentally but they did not adopted.
Also, those submachine guns were modified to able to equip bayonets.

MP18 [MP18衝鋒槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 9.19 mm
    • Velocity: 380 m/s
    • Weight: 4.18 kg
    • Fire rate: 350-500 rpm
    • Magazine: 50 bullets
    • Action: Automatic
    • Ammunition: 9×19mm Parabellum

Mainly submachine guns were used by elite soldiers. Not only import but also they copied and manufactured at several Chinese arsenals.

MP28 [MP28衝鋒槍]

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.65 mm
    • Velocity: 380 m/s
    • Weight: 4.0 kg
    • Fire rate: 500-600 rpm
    • Magazine: 50 bullets
    • Action: Automatic
    • Ammunition: 9×19mm Parabellum

Mainly submachine guns were used by elite soldiers. Not only import but also they copied and manufactured at several Chinese arsenals.

Light Machine Gun

SIG KE7

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: - m/s
    • Magazine: 25 bullets
    • Fire rate: 550 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 8.2 kg
    • Ammunition: 7.92x57 mm Mauser

Chinese purchased 6000 guns and manufactured copy of it during 2nd Chino-Japanese war.

ZB vz.26

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 6.5 mm
    • Velocity: 735 m/s
    • Magazine: 30 bullets
    • Fire rate: 550 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 10.2 kg
    • Ammunition: 6.5x50mmSR Type 38 cartridge

Japanese called it “Check” Machine Gun and afraid it because specification is superior to Japanese heavy machine guns. Because of it, Japanese often capture and used it. Also after Japanese captured Chinese arsenal, they start to mass-produce this machine gun and finally Japanese operated over twenty thousands of it.

Heavy Weapon

Type 20 82cm Motor

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 82 mm
    • Velocity: - m/s
    • Weight: - kg
      Chinese standard infantry motor used during 2nd Chino-Japanese war.

Grenade

Copy of German M24 Grenade with short handle

During the war, Chinese produced German M24 grenade. Compare to original, length of handle get shorter.

Pistol

Hanyang C96

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.63 mm
    • Velocity: 430 m/s
    • Weight: 1.1 kg
    • Magazine: 6/10/20 bullets
    • Action: semi-auto
    • Ammunition: 7.63x25 Mauser

    Copy of Mauser C96. During early 20th century, C96 pistol was very popular in China.

Melee weapon

Dadao (大刀, Large Sword)

Because of lack of munition, sometimes Chinese used swords. Japanese sometimes misunderstand it is yanyuedao: Chinese traditional sword known by famous Chinese story, “Romance of the Three Kingdoms”.

Engineer’s weapon

Anti-Aircraft Gun:
Solothurn ST-5

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 20 mm
    • Velocity: 850 m/s
    • Magazine: 20 bullets
    • Fire rate: 320 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 80 kg
    • Ammunition: 20×138mmB cartridge

Chinese popular anti-aircraft autocannon during 2nd Chino-Japanese war. Sometimes this gun was also used for attack Japanese ground forces.

Anti-Tank Gun:
37 mm PaK36

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 37 mm
    • Velocity: 762 m/s
    • Penetration: 31 mm @ 500 m

Before the start of war, Chinese imported some this cannon and used to attack Japanese AFVs.

Heavy Machine Gun:
Type 24 Heavy Machine Gun

  • Specification
    • Caliber: 7.92 mm
    • Velocity: 770-780 m/s
    • Magazine: belt
    • Fire rate: 600 rounds per minute
    • Weight: 49 kg
      • Ammunition: 7.92×57mm Mauser

Chinese standard heavy machine gun used during Chino-Japanese war.

AFVs

In Japanese side, Shanghai SNLF equipped several armored cars and tanks to support their infantry. Also, after army forces are landed, army’s armored cars and tanks saw service around Shanghai.
In Chinese side, they equipped imported tanks. Especially Vickers 6-ton tank had better specification than Japanese ones.

Japanese

Tanker (1)

Unlock Squadron: 8th Light Armored Car Company, Separated
Unlock Vehicle: Type 94 Light Armored Car

  • Specification
    • Speed: 40 km/h
    • Armor: 8-12 mm
    • Weapon: 1x 6.5 mm Type 91

Type 94 Light Armored Car (tankette), aka Te-Ke is small armored tractor developed 1930s.
It did not have enough armor and weapon, but sometimes it was used for support infantry.

Tanker (2)

Unlock Squadron: Shanghai SNLF 3rd Battalion, IJN 3rd Fleet
Unlock Vehicle: Vickers-Crossley Armored Car

  • Specification
    • Speed: 64 km/h
    • Armor: 5.5 mm
    • Weapon: 2x 7.7 mm Vickers

Since 1920s, Shanghai SNLF start to equip Vickers-Crossley armored car to make possible to defend their concession with less troops. In the January 28 incident, its effectiveness was highly evaluated and later they developed Type 93 Armored Car for successor.
However, armor thickness of this vehicle was too thin and sometimes rifle bullets could penetrate armor.

Tanker (3)

Unlock Squadron: 5th Tank Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Type 89 Medium Tank Ko

  • Specification
    • Speed: 64 km/h
    • Armor: 15-17 mm
    • Weapon: 1x 57 mm Type 90, 2x 6.5 mm Type 91

Type 89 Medium Tank, aka I-Go is Japanese first mass-produced tank. It equips short-barrel 57 mm tank gun to destroy enemy encampment. Similar to other Japanese tanks, it does not have coaxial machine gun. To use turret machine gun, need to reverse main turret.

Chinese

Tanker (1)

Unlock Squadron: Chinese Army Tank Battalion 2nd Company
Unlock Vehicle: Carden-Loyd tankette

  • Specification
    • Speed: 48 km/h
    • Armor: 6-9 mm
    • Weapon: 1x 7.7 mm Vickers

It was the first Chinese armored vehicle. It does not have top armor and have only single 7.7 mm machine gun. Not only Chinese but also Japanese Shanghai SNLF equipped this vehicle until 1945, too.

Tanker (2)

Unlock Squadron: Chinese Army Tank Battalion 3rd Company
Unlock Vehicle: Panzer I

  • Specification
    • Speed: 37 km/h
    • Armor: 13 mm
    • Weapon: 2x 7.92 mm MG13

Chinese was imported 16 Panzer I tank and used for defend of Nanjing.

Tanker (3)

Unlock Squadron: Chinese Army Tank Battalion 1st Company
Unlock Vehicle: Vickers 6-ton tank Type B

  • Specification
    • Speed: 35 km/h
    • Armor: 5-13 mm
    • Weapon: 1x 7.7 mm Vickers, 1x 47 mm OQF 3-pdr

1st Company the Tank Battalion were participated to the Battle of Shanghai to destroy Japanese encampment. However, due to lack of training, tanks were separated from allied infantry and destroyed by the Japanese anti-tank gun.

Aircrafts

Both forces operated lots of aircrafts to this battle. Chinese air force had about 180 aircrafts and Japanese navy had about 500 aircrafts. In case of Japanese side, their air cover provided from airbase at Taiwan, aircraft carriers in offshore and cruisers in Shanghai. Also, in later, they build airfield in Shanghai. At first, they disregard fighters and focused to bombing.
In Chinese side, they try to bomb Japanese warships in Shanghai to sunk them, but it was failed. However, their fighters got high result and shot down lots of Japanese bombers.

Japanese

Attacker (1)

Squadron: Kaga Air Squadron, 1st Carrier Division
Unlock Vehicle: Type 94 Carrier-Based Bomber (Aichi D1A1 Susie)

  • Specification
    • Speed: 281 km/h
    • Bomb: 2x 30 kg / 1x 250 kg
    • Gun: 2x 7.7 mm Vickers (forward), 1x 7.7 mm Type 92 (flexible)

During the Battle of Shanghai, Japanese carrier forces were located in offshore of Shanghai to provide air cover. Among them, Kaga was the largest aircraft carrier. In August 15, they dispatched 16x D1A, 16x B2M and 13x B4Y to bomb Chinese airfield, but because of disregard of fighters, they did not dispatch escort fighters. As a result of it, they were intercepted by Chinese Hawk III fighters and Japanese lost 10 bombers and 29 crews.

Attacker (2)

Squadron: 1st Combined Air Group
Unlock Vehicle: Type 96 Mark 1 Ground-Based Attacker (Mitsubishi G3M1 Nell)

  • Specification
    • Speed: 348 km/h
    • Bomb: 12x 60kg / 2x 250 kg / 1x 500 kg / 1x 800kg / 1x torpedo
    • Gun: 3x 7.7 mm Type 92 (flexible)

1st Combined Air Group (第一連合航空隊) is Japanese ground-based naval bomber group consisted by Kanoya Air Group and Kisarazu Air Group which operating Mitsubishi G3M1. Japanese navy combined both air group and moved them to Taiwan because to attack Chinese airfields, they decide to use newest medium bomber, G3M1. However, because of overconfidence of specification of G3M1 and disregard of fighters, they did not operated fighters to escort them. As a result of it, they were intercepted by ROCAF 4th Battalion lead by ace pilot Gao Zhihang and they suffered a one-sided defeat.

Fighter (1)

Squadron: 10th Flying Company Separated, 3rd Flying Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Type 95 Fighter (Nakajima Ki-10 Perry)

  • Specification
    • Speed: 400 km/h
    • Bomb: N/A
    • Gun: 2x 7.7 mm Type 89 fixed Ko & Otsu (forward)

10th Flying Company, Separated (10Fcs) was fighter company separated from 7th Flying Regiment. During the Battle of Shanghai, this company was dispatched to Shanghai as a part of the Imperial Japanese Army Shanghai Expeditionary Force. This company equipped with biplane fighter, Ki-10.

Fighter (2)

Squadron: 2nd Combined Air Group
Unlock Vehicle: Type 96 Mark 1 Carrier-Based Fighter (Mitsubishi A5M1 Claude)

  • Specification
    • Speed: 406 km/h
    • Bomb: 2x 30 kg
    • Gun: 2x 7.7 mm Vickers (forward)

2nd Combined Air Group was naval aircraft groups located in Gonda (公大) airfield, Shanghai. Operations of carrier air squadrons were limited by weather, but Chinese air forces was serious threat for Japanese forces. Because of it, carrier air squadrons were moved to ground airfield to bomb Chinese ground forces and airfields. Different to early-time, they learned that Chinese fighters are very serious threat for their bombers, so they decide to dispatch newest fighter, A5M1. Originally it was deployed to Kaga air squadron but in real operations they were belonged to 2nd combined air group.

Chinese

Attacker (1)

Unlock Squadron: ROCAF 2nd Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Northrop Gamma 2EC

  • Specification
    • Speed: 328 km/h
    • Bomb: ~ 1600 lbs (725 kg)
    • 4x 7.62 mm M1919 (forward), 1x 7.62 mm M1919 (flexible)

Just after start of Battle of Shanghai, Chinese decide to bomb Japanese warships in Shanghai. 2nd Battalion operated Northrop Gamma 2EC and tried to bomb enemy flagship, Izmo, but unfortunately their mission was failed.

Attacker (2)

Unlock Squadron: ROCAF 8th Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Martine 139W

  • Specification
    • Speed: 343 km/h
    • Bomb: ~ 2,260 lbs (1025 kg)
    • 3x 7.62 mm M1919 (flexible)

Martine 139W is exportation variant of American Martine B-10 bomber. The notable activity of them is the first “bombing” to mainland of Japan. In that operation, because of limit of specification they could not use actual bomb but they dropped propaganda papers and claimed their humanity and legitimacy.

Fighter (1)

Unlock Squadron: ROCAF 5th Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Curtis Hawk II

  • Curtis Hawk II
    • Speed: 325 km/h
    • Bomb: 1x 474 lb (215 kg) / 2x 117 lb (53 kg)
    • 2x 7.62 mm M1919

Curtis Hawk II was exportation variant of Curtis F11C Goshawk. During the Battle of Shanghai, this fighter fought against Japanese A5M and shootdown it.

Fighter (2)

Unlock Squadron: ROCAF 4th Battalion
Unlock Vehicle: Curtis Hawk III

  • Curtis Hawk III
    • Speed: 410 km/h
    • Bomb: 1x 474 lb (215 kg) / 2x 117 lb (53 kg)
    • 1x 7.62 mm M1919, 1x 12.7 mm M2 (forward)

Curtis Hawk III is exportation variant of Curtiss BF2C Goshawk. 4th Battalion, was lead by famous ace pilot Gao Zhihang and shot down lots of Japanese naval aircrafts. Especially, battle in August 14 was the first winning for Chinese air force.

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Yes.

Japan time

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Based, i wanna commit war crimes against the allied side of this campaign

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In all seriousness. Extremely well written post. Was worth reading. I would love a pacific and china campaign

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but wouldn’t something like Beijing or Nanking be more appropriate?
iirc those are the battles where China had some Panzer Is and CV-33s yet.

Of course something like ichi-go could give them the M2A4 as well.

Personally, I wanted to play Shanghai SNLF squadron :stuck_out_tongue:
Also, Chinese Vickers 6-ton tank with 47 mm cannon is very attractive. It will be good counter of Japanese Type 89 medium tank.

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Very nice post +1.

I was working on a post like that as well but as to not to let the work I allready did go to waste I´ll add it in the comments here:

Campaign Suggestion: Early 2nd Sino Japanese War

The 2nd Sino Japanese war is a very Interesting but rarely if ever covered conflict starting in 1937 and continuing until the end of World war two. I believe that one of the strengths of this game can be to actually cover the rarely talked about conflicts and this is definitely one of them. In order to not Overlap too much with other campaigns I think it should focus on the Early War 1937-1940.

Notes:

Instead of having the Axe as a tier 2 melee weapon I’d suggest the guntō for the Japanese and the Miaodao for the Chinese (both are swords).

Furthermore, there will be no Anti-Tank-Infantry class in this campaign due to the lack of Infantry carried anti tanks weapons.

The first tank Squad should should mostly focus on tankettes and light tanks as they were by the most common. The Second Tank Squad should should have the strongest tanks available during the conflict.

I´d also avoid adding semi Auto Rifles.

Chinese Progression:

The Chinees generally had a large verity of weapons in use. They bought/produced them during or before the war or received them as military aid, this makes them a very interesting faction.

Standard rifle: Hanyang 88; a Chinese produced version of the Gewehr 1888 with some modifications like a removed barrel shroud (Should be the weapon all new soldiers have)

Hand grenade: Chinese Stilhandgranate; a Chinese produced version of the M24 Stilhandgranate

AT-Mine: Tellermine 35 (Bought from Germany)

(Molotov cocktails and TNT Packs should also be available)

Pistols:

Level 5: Mauser C96

Level 8: Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless

Level 11: FN Browning M1900

Level 14: Mauser Model 1914

Starting Squads (Campaign Level 1):

Infantry Squad

Gun: Chiang Kai-Shek rifle (Karabiner 98k) Chinese produced version of the Kar 98k, it was intended to replace the Hanyang 88.

Sniper Squad

Gun: Type 97 Sniper Rifle (Captured from the Japanese)

Tank Squad

Tank: L3/35 (Dual MG Version)

Campaign Level 2:

Assault Squad

SMG: Mauser M712 „Schnellfeuer“ a fully automatic version of the C96 pistol with a 20 round box magazine and a removable holster stock. It and the Spanish Astra versions were very popular in China at the time. Domestic copies were also produced.

Campaign Level 3:

Engineer squad:

Gun: Type 21 carbine (copy of the Belgian FN Model 1930) the Original gun was also imported in large numbers.

AT-Gun: Type 30 anti-tank gun (A Chinese Version of the German PaK 36) the PaK 36 was also bought from Germany directly

AA-Gun: Hotchkiss M1929 machine gun (twin-barrel version)

Campaign level 4:

Fighter Squadron

Plane: Polikarpov I-15bis

Campaign Level 5:

Gun: MP-18: Imported and locally produced versions usually in 7.63×25mm Mauser. Modifications with a bottom feeding vertical magazine with top ejection existed (maybe better than a simple copy/paste model).

Campaign Level 6:

Radio Squad

Gun: Vz. 24: large numbers of those guns were imported.

Campaign Level 7:

CAS Squadron

Plane: Henschel Hs 123 (bought from Germany)

Campaign Level 8:

Tank: AMR 35 with a 13.2 mm Hotchkiss machinegun (bought from France)

Campaign Level 9:

MG Squad:

Gun: Hotchkiss M1922 machine gun (Strip Fed in 7.92x57 mm)

Campaign Level 10:

Flamethrower Squad

Gun: Type 93 flamethrower (Captured from the Japanese)

Campaign Level 11:

Gun: ZB 26 Machine Gun in 7.92x57 mm

Campaign Level 12:

Infatry Squad 2

Gun: Hanyang 88 with Type 28 Rifle Grenade Launcher

Campaign Level 13:

Tank: Sd.Kfz. 222 (bought from Germany)

Campaign Level 14:

Motar Squad

Mortar: Type 27 Grenade Discharger simplified Chinese copy of the Japanese Type 89 50 mm motar

Campaign Level 15:

Fighter Squadron 2

Plane: Polikarpov I-16 Type 10

Campaign Level 16:

Sniper Squad 2

Gun: Mosin–Nagant 1891/30 with PU/PE Scope; large numbers of those rifle were received as part of Soviet military aid (It is not unlikely that some scope made their way to china as well).

Campaign Level 17:

CAS Squadron 2

Plane: Vultee V-11

Campaign Level 18:

Assault Squad 2

Gun: Thomson SMG (A large amount of Thomson SMGs was purchased as well as domestic copies produced, both in 45 ACP and 7.63x25 mm Mauser.

Campaign Level 19:

MG Squad 2:

Gun: Neuhausen KE-7 a swiss produced LMG in 7.92*57mm with a 25/50 round magazine. Over 2500 were bought and several thousand copies were produced.

Campaign Level 20:

Tank Squad 2

Tank: Vickers Mark E Type B with the short 3-pdr gun (bought from Britain)

Campaign Level 21:

Engineer Squad 2

Gun: Chiang Kai-Shek rifle with HY1935 bayonet attached

MG Position: M1917 Browning

Campaign Level 22:

Mortar Squad 2:

Mortar: Type 20 mortar a Chinese Version of the 81mm Brandt Mle 27/31

Campaign Level 23:

Tank: T26 was received as military aid from the soviets.

Premium Squad:

A Tank Squad with a BA-27 Adored Car, some were Supplied as Military aid

Japanese Progression:

Standard rifle: Arisaka type 38 rifle (Should be the weapon all new soldiers have)

Hand grenade: Type 97 grenade

AT-Mine: Type 99 mine

(Molotov cocktails and TNT Packs should also be available)

Pistols:

Level 5: Type 14 Nambu

Level 8: Type 26 Revolver

Level 11: Type 94 Nambu

Level 14: Hamada Type 1 pistol

Starting Squads (Campaign Level 1):

Infantry Squad

Gun: Arisaka Type 99 Rifle

Sniper Squad

Gun: Type 97 Sniper Rifle (type 38 rifle with a scope mounted)

Tank Squad

Tank: Type 94 tankette (Late Variant with a 7.7 mm MG)

Campaign Level 2:

Assault Squad

SMG: SIG M/20 Essentially a swiss produced MP-18 used against the Chinese

Campaign Level 3:

Engineer Squad

Gun: Type I Rifle, a Italian produced rifle using the carcano action in combination with a Mauser style internal magazine but firing 6.5×50mmSR.

AT Gun: Type 94 37 mm anti-tank gun

AA Gun: Type 93 machine gun (twin-barrel version) Japanese license production of the Hotchkiss M1929

Campaign Level 4:

Fighter Squadron

Plane: Kawasaki Ki-10

Campaign Level 5:

Gun: MP34 (swiss production gun)

Campaign Level 6:

Radio Squad:

Gun: Type Mo III rifle (Essentially bought Vz 24 rifles)

Campaign Level 7:

CAS Squadron

Plane: Kawasaki Ki-32

Campaign Level 8:

Tank: Type 92 Tankette (Version armed with a 13.2 mm MG in the hull and a 7.7 mm MG in the Turret)

Campaign Level 9:

MG Squad:

Gun: Type 11 light machine gun

Campaign Level 10:

Flamethrower Squad

Gun: Type 93 flamethrower

Campaign Level 11:

Gun: Type 96 light machine gun

Campaign Level 12:

Infantry Squad 2

Gun: Type 38 Rifle with Type 2 rifle grenade launcher

Campaign Level 13:

Typ 95 Ha-Gō

Campaign Level 14:

Motar Squad

Mortar: Type 89 50 mm mortar

Campaign Level 15:

Fighter Squadron 2

Plane: Nakajima Ki-27b Improved version with mounting points for 4x 25 Kg Bombs

Campaign Level 16:

Sniper Squad 2

Gun: Type 99 Sniper Rifle with 4x Scope

Campaign Level 17:

CAS Squadron 2

Plane: Aichi D3A1

Campaign Level 18:

Assault Squad 2

Gun: Experimental Model 2 submachine gun, limited production saw some service during the 2nd Sino Japanese war.

Campaign Level 19:

MG Squad 2

Gun: Type 99 light machine gun, similar to the type 96 but firing the more powerful 7.7×58mm Round.

Campaign Level 20:

Tank Squad 2

Tank: Type 89 I-Go

Campaign Level 21:

Engineer Squad 2

Gun: Gun: Type 99 rifle with Type 30 bayonet attached

MG Position: Type 92 heavy machine gun

Campaign Level 22:

Mortar Squad 2

Mortar: Type 97 81 mm infantry mortar

Campaign Level 23:

Tank: Type 97 Chi-Ha (57 mm Gun version)

Premium Squad:

A Tank Squad with a Type 97 Te-Ke Tankette

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No, we need Japanese and Americans in the Pacific. Katana and Banzai!

Nope

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China is way more balanced against Japan

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Your idea is also nice! I’m a little happy because besides me have idea about unique melee weapons.
I have few questions about Chinese weapon:

  1. Did Chinese not have own sniper rifle? I’ve heard they imported lots of European rifles so I thought they imported sniper variant, too.
  2. Did Chinese use Miaodao during the war? I thought they used Dadao because there’re march for them and that sword was popular war trophy in Japan (they misunderstand it is famous Yanyuedao).
    大刀進行曲 Dadao March (Big Sword March) | 抗戰歌曲 - YouTube

by the way, Ki-27 (Type 97 fighter) did not have 12.7 mm machine gun.

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  1. As far as I am aware there was No “Offical” Sniper Rifle, most likely there were adaptaions of the commonly available rifles with comercially available scopes, but is really hard to find good information/sources on stuff like this. So It might be the safest rute to go with captured/supplied equipment unless someone finds information on that.
  2. Yeah good point i think i might have misidentified it in some photos i saw, the Dadao makes the most sense to have ingame.
    Thank you for the correction I´ll edit that in my comment :slight_smile:
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commercially-available scopes in 1930s China seems doubtful to me. I would assume they would’ve needed to import them from Germany or Italy, but who knows how well they would survive the trip.
From what I can remember, most of the Panzer Is and CV-33s China ordered arrived damaged in some way, and those are tanks

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I made a list of military forces fought during Battle of Shanghai.
Due to I can’t edit my own post strangely, I decided to post it on google documents.
Unfortunately, I don’t know well about Chinese army so list of Chinese side are from Wikipedia. But, list of Japanese side data are came from Japanese official war history (戦史叢書) so Japanese side data will be reliable.

Note, In that time Japanese Army/Navy (and probably Chinese Army) did not had any insignia like European. Currently game shows their insignia as a mark of platoons but if implement east-Asian warfare, developers will be need to modify this system.

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A little idea: We might as well remove the snipers from both armies because In case of Japan, Type 97 sniper rifle was not adopted yet, and in case of China it is uncertain that they had it.

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As you know, motorcycles are implemented in Tunisia campaign.
Japanese Shanghai SNLF also equipped motorcycles with armed sidecar. It will be very interesting addition for this campaign, too!
Japanese had two types of sidecar: Type 93 Motorcycle with Sidecar (九三式側車附自動二輪車) and Type 97 Motorcycle with Sidecar (九七式側車附自動二輪車). Strangely English Wikipedia says " A variation was also manufactured without a side car, called the Type 93", but as Japanese name shown, both motorcycle have sidecar.
These motorcycles were licensed production of Harley-Davidson’s motorcycle, but some improvements for military uses were added. Also, in case of Type 97, not only motorcycle’s wheel but also side car’s wheel was driven.
In case of Shanghai SNLF, driver and crew of this vehicle equipped submachineguns.

Also, this photo is very interesting. In this photo there are 6 types of armored fighting vehicles of the Shanghai SNLF. (note: They also operated late model of Type 89 tank mod.A)

Photos came from this book:
吉川和篤 [Yoshikawa Kazunori], 2012 “上海海軍特別陸戦隊写真集 [Photo album of the Shanghai Navy Special Land Force]”, Dai Nippon Kaiga [大日本絵画]
ISBN-13‏ :‎ 978-4499231039
ttps://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4499231035/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_0S8CZZFT5ZZAS9NNQTB6

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Amazing post, please add this guy to you Dev team, :slight_smile:

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Been waiting forever for a WWII game to acknowledge that China was even in the war. And Shanghai was the Stalingrad of the Sino-Japanese War, which was in turn the longest (in terms of distance and time) running front of the war. Would play the shit out of this.

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Additional interesting images

I find several interesting images. I think they are very interesting to know about the battlefield!

Fortress around Shanghai

Note: I don’t know Chinese name. Now, in Japan it is called Seeckt line. Name is came from German military adviser, Hans von Seeckt.

Pillbox

Photo source (blog)

Photo source (blog)

Watchtower?
Photo source (blog)

Photo source (blog)

Uncompleted Pillbox
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

Shanghai SNLF Headquarter Building

Colorized photo on postcard, before the war
This building was build in 1927 for headquarter of Shanghai SNLF for the protection of settlement.
It was naval facility, so they raised Naval Ensign.
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

SNLF Artilleries on the rooftop of building, 1937
During the battle of Shanghai, SNLF’s artilleries deployed cannons on the rooftop of headquarter building.
Photo source (wikimedia)

Photo taken in 2016
In that time, it was used as a commercial building.
Photo source (blog)

Others

Ruins of Shanghai City Government Office
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

Ruins of Wusong district
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

Ruins of Wusong Battery
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

Sightseeing bus for battlefield tours
Photo source (Kyoto University Library Archive)

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