Spotting flares

Suggestions
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(I think such topic was made in the past but it won’t hurt to suggest this again.)

Add spotting flares as recon/sniper gadget.
I imagine it would work similarly to flares in BFV or that other game we shall not speak of where you shoot it to the air and it spots enemies in the X meter radious on the minimap (no 3D spotting) for some time.
I think it would be a nice gadget as it promotes teamwork and fills the gap as we don’t really have anthing like that. Also it gives some nice extra utility to snipers that are otherweise quite underwhelming class.

Balancing note: I think it’s ammo should be limited to 2-3 per flair gun without an option to resupply. Otherweise the whole battlefield will be lit like a christmas tree.

It can be also expanded to recon planes or recon vehicles with cameras to take pictures.

EDIT
Based on the discussion:

  • no real time spotting, only static spot every x secons
  • flare should be possible to shoot down
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I hate all that minimap radar nonsense, main reason why I mainly played those shooters in the “hardcore” setting, its already terrible that tanks have real time spotting - but I guess here its a compromise, because people would never spot vehicles anyways.

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How ?

Flare is not a drone. It is only a source of light, not a mobile camera :-1:

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Then it could be non real time spotting and only one time spot (basically a picture).
I don’t really care how it works as long as I get the intel.

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And soldier can’t shoulder fire 50kg AT canon. Yet here we are.

Also at this point I’d say spotting flare is a gaming convention just like healing, ammo etc.

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a picture could work, I would prefer that this would also be the case for tanks, but that a different topic.

that being said, those flares were “mostly” only used at night to make assaults possible, or to highlight areas for artillery strikes → or as a defensive measure to alert your troops for incoming enemies that try to sneak into your camp at night in the form of a tripwire flare.

I dont think the flares themselves should spot, however, what if you would actually call in observation planes - that spot in a 10 seconds interval - which would give pilots again more things to do.

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Devs don’t really care about realism.
Many players don’t really care about realism.
Why should I care about realism?

Imo it’s simply a good mechanic that promotes teamwork and adds utility to a boring soldier class. I’m willing to sacrifice some realsm for this as it’s an overall benefit.

Sorry but it can’t be that we allow for various unrealistic BS just because, but don’t agree for actually good mechanics (at leat imo) like spotting and reviving “because realism”.

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I would add a compromise funnier, instead of a flare who spot enemies, why the flare don’t call a recon plane who at each passage for just some second spot all enemies stuff and soldiers? In this way there isn’t always a full spotting of the enemy forces and the enemy can counter the spotting by shot down the recon plane

Also one recon plane every 3 minutes for balance

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well I do, you can think I am silly for thinking so, but I play Enlisted because of its mechanics that are realistic - like no 3rd person vehicles, one hit kills, tanks having no HP but die very quickly and so forth…

a spotting mechanic is unrealistic on its own, so I would not like it unless done with thought.

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This makes sense^^^^^^^

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I think flares could be a cool addition to a spawn protection system :grin: (absent grayzone)

Combined with the above to hassle would be spawn campers.

Flared and strafed/artilleried :laughing:

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I don’t see why a flare should call a recon plane. It’s a radiomans job. (Speaking of realism.)

Imo both flares and recon planes can exist together. One is faster but weaker and the other is slower but stronger.

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Because radioman do sufficient stuff already, let other classes have fun to

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Imo it’s simply a necesarry evil.
It’s a casual game and even in some more team oriented games (like S44 or [REDACTED]) it’s hard to make ppl give you intel. So some artificial help is needed imo.

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So we replace an unrealistic mechanic (flares spotting) with another unrealistic mechanic (flares calling recon plane) because balance.
I really fail to see the benefits.

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False. As there are evidences (recordings) of people carrying heavy objects:

But there is no evidence of use of drones in WW II :sleeping:

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Well…flares were used for spotting.

Not hard to make the correlation to a spotting mechanic :man_shrugging: in a “game”

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You are so dumb.
Where is a huge difference between a sportsman lifting weight and a conscript firing a heavy gun with a lot of recoil.

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This is a videogame a lot of time people forget this, until is fun, is balanced, good to see on the screen and works it can be done, also the issue with your suggestion is the spotting can’t be countered by the enemy, so I proposed to you to use the combo flare + recon plane for make it balanced

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I honestly don’t think there’s need for additional spotting.

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