Simple solution against kamikaze spam

Im curious, wheres the thread that was “agreed” in?

I think a lot of these “agreed” points will be buried amongst the many threads and news post responses out there. Maybe a dev or a mod mentioned it somewhere. You’re going to end up having to run ChatGPT to find the bloody thing at some point.

In relation to the overall post, I don’t see any useful way to tackle kamikaze planes, in my book its the same as det-pack infantry spam rushes at my vehicles. It takes no skill to deploy a temp spawn point and suicide rush vehicles at your whim. It may take you a spawn or two, if you don’t use a large enough squad the first time, but overall there is no defence.

The nerf (silent or otherwise) that’s gone out recently for a significant portion of HE effects out there is noticeable. I like using planes, but unless my bombs drop on the head of the target they’re generally ignored. The same goes for vehicle HE, and that’s with 76mm + anything smaller struggles for effect.

I get it that some ppl just want to play INF centric FPS, but personally I would like for the Devs to spend some more time enhancing this game more in the direction of a combined arms experience, where the are options for everyone, even if they have to be a bit “rock-paper-scissor-ish” about it.

(asymmetry of the whole retarded BR system aside)

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I don’t want to see less skilled players abusing this mechanic
It’s just some kind of parasite
Players should earn money by destroying enemies
Instead of relying on survival to get more

Think about it
A player with poor skills keeps occupying planes for supplies for low score subsidies.
But he is unable to effectively attack ground units
This is no different from malicious car repairs.
Basically, it’s all negative people abusing game mechanics.

Who? When?

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Except for defenders and honestly I have the feeling that defender have more FLAGGOTs because they can afford it.

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By the way @Conscript_Joe I’m of the opinion for counter suicide spam, we should bring back the fixed respawn lives we have before but diving them for both vehicles and infantry, so for each players we have

  • 15 for infantry
  • 5 for vehicle

In this way In the grand scheme of thing both team have 150 infantry squad to spawn and 50 vehicle spawn more than sufficient for 30-50 minute of match

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Sorry, I dont remember that now. It was a topic from a month ago or more.

Do you mean a bit like it was with conquest mode? Limited amount of spawns?

It could work…

But to those suiciders, planes are just bona fide guided bombs :thinking: to them, instead of unlimited bombs, they’d have 5.

Ultimately I don’t think many would like that, some people do use vehicles a lot… And even if those poot A13 or t60 keep exploding, the players using them did so properly…

I don’t know :thinking: I’m not against this kind of measure, but I would want it to be effective against toxic suiciders first

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I think it would help if we had bigger objectives.
Players wouldn’t be so cluttered in one small area, and thus there wouldn’t be as many juicy targets for these zero skill kamikaze dudes. I think it would make suicide bombing a lot less attractive.

Sure, revenge suicide bombing of a tank probably would still be a thing, but whatever.

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I don’t think it would do much against suicide bombing…

But WE DO need bigger objective zones :thinking: It would bring many, maaany benefits.

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Why not go WT style - 3 re-spawns per squad type.

I this way you would also limit SMG/AR spam to a degree because once a player exhausted 3 Assault squads (includes both tech tree and premium), they’d have to try something else.
It would also promote the levelling and use of other squads than just Assault squads.

I think there is an interesting game option to be explored with limited respawns, because that would automatically make ppl more cautious and less prone to run and gun mentality.

I think it would. The only reason why those dudes are doing it is because it is efficient without any effort whatsoever.

There is something interesting to be had here. But it would be a completely different game mode.
Like WT, there’s some historical battles mode, there could be the same in Enlisted. With tweaked lineups.

For example Normandy: axis didn’t have many tanks at landing, perhaps something like just a dozen max, and allies ones didn’t land yet. Could be a battle restricting tank squads to 1, or 2 maximum per player, as example :thinking:

And also because they are really bad at bombing stuff normally, let’s not forget!

A player who is good at what he does, tend not to waste himself too easily by nature.

Yeah, it would make for shorter games, quite brutal, but equally reasonably definitive.

You could give infantry 3 respawns per squad since they’re more squishy, but perhaps limit tanks to 2 and planes to 1 respawn.
Equally boost XP for infantry by 3x, tanks by 4x and planes by 6x by way of a risk vs reward, and it only counts if you actually run out of squads, or the game ends.
If you leave you get zip or some significantly reduced number to compensate those who haven’t paid their electricity / ISP bills…

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A limited number of spawns per squad would only incentivize for more desertion. People would naturally quit the matches just to have ability to play the squad they want atm. I would definitely do that.

Terrible idea when we still have no penalties for desertion.

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I just listed the penalty above ??? and an incentive too…

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What’s a terrible idea is that you didn’t understand we spoke of a different mode…

Great thing there’s not yet useless desertion penalties thought.

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Pls add an exit zones/airfields for planes as in next warthunder update, so we can exit planes safely without the need to fly for the whole match (or until fuel rans out) and spending vehicle spawn point :confused:
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Planes are not the coolest of all the vehicles in an infantry-based game. They are supporting but not interacting with infantry as tanks do.

But…

Enlisted is NOT, an infantry based game…

It’s a mixed arms game…

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