And still waiting for them stats.
hey Iām still waiting for you to grow up
guess neither of us gets exactly what they want
though the stats thread is up there for you to see, you only donāt see it if you donāt want to see it
but thatās your problem
Still no stats
still no brains, what can you do
another bad excuses as you could post the stats even without brains.
Again, you miss the point. The fact that those players exist is besides the point, I only mentioned them because you bitched about the same circumstances they face. What is relevant though is the fact that they do not play like you describe whatsoever. The run in, hold LMB, throw grenades and trade lives until they control the point. And yes, you can one man carry against a maxed stack if you significantly outskill them, even if you have to deal with dogshit connection and a potato PC, and you would know that if you had bothered to learn about the community. But no, you barge in, claim that the game needs to be changed in your image, and then dismiss anyone who even points out the simplest flaws in what you are asking for.
it is besides the point, because you morons want to make this about my stats and performance in the game, when that has nothing to do with the topic, because thatās what morons do, they try to derail topics to focus on what they want because they have no valid other arguments, so they seek to try to win on another topic
but even there you are failing lmao
pointing out a fact is not bitching, you canāt even get that right
and no, it isnāt the same circumstances, I can guarantee you nobody is dominating the game with a potato pc, with dial up internet from another continent, it just isnāt possible, you are an idiot to even think that it is, but whatever, you think how you want, but polluting this thread with your rubbish doesnāt change the facts
also if you havenāt noticed, this was a suggestion, and opinion, something that is mine to have, I donāt give a damn what you and your cheating lying friends think especially when itās as obviously ridiculous as you are
Honestly, Iām just exhausted of people coming to the forum asking for certain styles of play to be punished, certain weapons nerfed, etc.
People on offense must push. Yeah, thereās a smart way to do it but most often the problem is that all but one or two players on a team sit back trying to get kills without playing the objective.
That makes for a MISERABLE match. Iād prefer a teammate whoās pushing the point even if they love 14 squads. At least they went out with honor.
Depending on the MM, sometimes players in a T-34 or Tiger can farm like 80 - 100 kills without dying. As far as Iām concerned thatās a bigger problem.
Not all matches and situations are the same
I have made this point before, where I have been the only person capping the entire match to victory, and the reason that is possible, is because our entire team is farming them because we have superior positions preventing their team from getting on the caps
so this idea that every situation requires the entire team on the cap is laughable
especially when you cry about tanks HE your ass and you expect the entire team to get HE with you, as if that helps anybody, absolutely clueless
also sometimes you just cannot get to the objective until you clear first, and if your team is not capable of that, doesnāt matter how much your little buddy tries, it doesnāt make a difference, just another player acting like an npc
We donāt want your stats for your preformance, we want it so we can see how long you have played the game, and to see if you have even bothered to try to play the game as intended. However, you dismiss people who play better than you in the same circumstances and for what? Do you think you are the best player in the game or something? Because I can assure that these players do exist, and several have been on this thread, although it is up to them if they want to out themselves. We have given you points to answer, and you have simply refused to answer them, so we have decided to mock you and ask for your credentials instead. However, I will give you another chance to answer the core critique of your āideaā. Why does Enlisted need this aspect of realism? What makes it so that one aspect of realism needs to be implemented in this otherwise arcadey game?
I never said it needed full realism or to become a military sim per se
I said that the game could use incentives to encourage players to play smarter and attempt to improve
and then morons come on here and tell me their best advice is for players to run into the points and lose all their squads for barely any kills, itās a joke if that is the best advice that the best players are giving to people
and also i never said I am the best player, i just have this idea that if players had incentives to play smarter, they might want to actually play smarter
what is so difficult to understand about this?
the result would be a little bit more realism, but the game would still be a funny arcade game that is a joke when there are so many arcade factors and ridiculous mechanics like these nice maps and these ridiculous little moving out of bounds areas that murder the players and prevent gameplay continuation like in other great titles for example hardcore mode on battlefield bad company 2 where you had to clear the players behind you, otherwise they would shoot you in the back, which is how it should be, this hand holding of out of bounds murdering players is pathetic, but thatās just another of my own opinions and preferences.
But still would make that suggestion too
want to argue against that too? no problem, but itās opinion based, so what? that game was arcade too, even with hardcore mode, so what? They are all games, never asked for total realism, not once, but you morons make these stupid presumptions and then attach them to me as if thatās what I am saying, when itās not.
No way im reading all this but.
Losing men is its own punishment
And if you want to relate to it realistically, some militaries are notorious for throwing away manpower and equipment (and still winnimg the war). But any way
thatās true, some countries still glorify idiotic moments in history when men were ordered to run at hails of bullets where they were all cut down to pieces, and then society calls them heroes
I call them dead meat
and not very smart
maybe they earned enough xp in the next life
No one has told you they run all their squads in and lose all their troops, that is just an assumption you make for some reason. However, what everyone here has said is that killing and surviving are secondary objectives to the objective itself. This game is fast paced and revolves around capping points, not killing and surviving. The incredibly low TTK and the squad system further cement this. What you propose completely changes that paradigm and thus the character of the game. You hadnāt and still havenāt convinced anyone that shifting away from the fast paced gameplay is a good idea and when they pressed you further, you called everyone who disagreed with you dumb. If you had said that they were welcome to disagree with your opinion back then like you are now, then no one would care. However, you refused to even understand where the other side was coming from, and for some reason have issues understanding that players can preform well if they are not playing the way you think they should be playing, insulting them before you even knowhow good of a player they are. Ultimately, it comes down to this. What you are looking for in this game is not what it is, or what it is striving to be.
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i see a lack of actual stats screen from OP so might as well help him with a screenshot of what he should be posting
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No I see people play like this, where they send in 20-30 squads and they barely register 20 kils, and so I thought that perhaps they could use some incentive to try and improve their playstyle
players on this forum however have defended that playstyle and even told me they rather have those players on their team than me 
and that they want everyone on their team to play like that
this is not my assumption, this is what people have said to me on this forum about this topic, itās not an assumption
You yourself say that killing is secondary
thatās pretty much the end of your credibility there
I will tell you when that works, when the team they are facing is bots or noobs
because against a strong team, good luck trying to win if you donāt kill their players and just run at the objective, you will get ruined
I am surprised if you are actual veterans and elite players and say this stupidity here honestly or just to try to set a culture for the dummies to follow, so you can farm them, because nobody in their right mind would think they could win this game by putting killing secondary, every time you go to a point and you donāt think about killing as priority, you are the one dying, thatās just how it goes, just a fact
also if you are an experienced veteran you know the importance of tickets and how it is a limited resource
so arguing against me makes no logical sense, other than for the sake of it and because you hate me
and you can hate me all you want, but the facts are all there
also the game is evolving, and this is a suggestion thread, so I have my say and you have your say, but if you want to target what I say, then you better have something better than what you have offered, because still nobody has made any decent arguments against this, just a bunch of nonsense
Really? You see a lot of that? I do not. In fact, I donāt think Iāve ever seen someone lose 30 squads.
the deaths arenāt squad losses, they are deaths of soldiers (mostly AI) to which i bring a large squads and assault the objective with them but for every death you see there i get 1-2 kills
So what, do you assume everyone with a positive KDR plays like you, or how you intend? because that is the biggest delusion of all time. No, no one on this forum wants anyone to have a negative KDR, people want people to be on the point to either capture it or hold it, and then to be able to click on the enemy player faster than the enemy player can click on them. You assume everyone plays this poorly, but if you watch any of the replays, the games that are carried are done by players who can do both of the things I said, not players who try to farm kills and keep themselves alive. Sure, tickets are a valuable resource, but the best players often win by simply capturing the all points before the lack of them becomes a problem, which is how you get the 7 minute invasion game stomps. Yes, kills are important and you should always get them when you can, but they are still a secondary objective because if you donāt capture or hold the objective then you literally lose the game. Or are you telling me that farming for your KDR is more important than winning the game.
Anyways back to the topic at hand, the our argument is literally this, you cannot completely overhaul the character of the game without any any good reason, and you have provided none other than this is what you think is best. In fact, you even had the audacity to claim that if the game did not implement what you wanted, the game would die. All your arguments effectively boiled down to āwell I would like it better if it was that wayā which is fine, but no one cares what you think. We came to this game for something else than what you want, and the devs delivered that product to us. If you donāt like it, there are other products out there for you. Thatās how capitalism works.