Remove Soviet Body Armor (with ticket compensation, of course)

Guys, how do I know if a squad has body armour?

Do they always have it if it’s on the model?

They fucking wear it, you moron. It’s literally part of their clothing. That’s why it’s BS since it’s not like an unique buyable item like Japan’s katana, it’s a cosmetic that you can get with the millions of free cosmetics orders that are constantly given to you

Bruh, I just meant are there any squads that don’t have it on the model, but get it anyway. Average American without manners lmao.

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PPD-DSZ
AS-44 (Premium)
Assault engineers (event)

I can try to get screenshots, but they literally just look like normal guys in body armour

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İs it true that if you buy cosmetic skin with armour you get the damage reduction?

Yes, as far as I know

if this was only on one squad of assault engineers, nobody would care if only soviets had this uniqueness. but cause you can equip it on every soldier it creates unfair advantage and should either be available to all or to none.

Soviets and Japan used it en masse in WW2. For commies it was a engineer/ urban warfare equipment and for Japanese late in war they tried to make their inf more survivable vs US firepower.

Axis, UK , USA all used it in rarer qualities (allies late in war, axis as captures) - as such right now I think the only nation that qualifies for purchesable (via cosmetics) would be Japan.

I would like to see more Allies/ Axis body armor in limited qualities, kinda how Japan currently does (para rifle plate, motor bike squad body armor) as shown above.

No, they didn’t use them on mass, there isn’t exact records how how many were produced but around 10,000 were estimated to be made, by 1945 the soviet army numbered around 11 Million. So about 0.09% of the soviet army might of had access to body armour. That’s absurdly rare, as for Japan their body armour is mostly experimental and probably didn’t see much (if any) action.

My knowledge of the matter was that SN-42 was ordered at 100,000 in 1942

Then why not limit it to some event/ BP soilders and a select few event squads, then nobody would care. But if the option to give body armour to every soviet soilder exists people with naturally trying and give them self any benefit meaning that they will equip it to everyone making it wat to common.

Its rare, my point is that both JP and USSR used them STILL MORE than Allies or Axis. Only 1 UK para division dropped with body armor in 1944, and US marines used them in Okinawa? (or someother island landing)

Purely anicdotal, unless you have any source that proves more than 10,000 were made and issued then we can’t go off a untrust worthy source. But even if 100,000 were produced that’s still 1% of the entire soviet army, not really “standard issue” meaning it’d still be suitable for event squads.

The soviets may have used it more but even the Soviet’s use of it was extremely limited, to put it simpler, 2 is twice as much as 1 but 2 is still very little.

100k is more than half the weapons in the research trees production run.
Even 10k would qualify.

Its fine, were speaking of degrees of difference here. At the end of the day most players would like to see more survivability mechanics,

Ive suggested a bunch in my write ups:

Vehicles are only getting stronger, we need more infantry comeback and or survivability features. NOT LESS

Not every soilder can carry an as44 but every soilder can be equipped with body armour making it feel much less rare.

Enlisted’s time to kill has always been low, this is only exaggerated at br5. Making everyone a turtle who can survive absurd amounts of damage is silly. But I also think that there are ways to increase survivability while still retaining Enlisted’s satisfying gunplay. The solutions I have include bots seeking cover, therefore bombs and enemy fire would become less effective. Another solution would be improve medic AI to heal others, and making bots use medkits more often. Also the regeneration of soilders could be increased or the amount of health restored by medkits could be increased.

1 squad is not a problem. multiple squad is.

It would still be a lot rarer than it is now, currently your whole lineup can have armour.

Wait till 25x HVAR F-82 shows up or 3x1ton bomb Tu-2

Like, the game is going to go towards more features, not less.

Most lineups from 1-2 years ago will struggle against current meta stuff.

I personally dont want to remove things from the game, but we can agree to disagree and move on.

Good chat.

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Just remove the protection bonus, leave the cosmetic.

No need to compensate, since the cosmetic appearance would be kept.

Same as uber Dutch soldiers: everyone knew it was scummy to abuse this. Those who spam armour aren’t really different, as such they deserve nothing.
Players who abused got to keep soldiers, with normalized stats.

They whined nonetheless and it was hilarious.

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