But yeah this game has promise but there are things that needs to be sorted out.
How is that not a shit opinion ? By taking away the ability of SMG’s to ‘stunlock’, you’re making them less capable of fulfilling their purpose, which is to efficiently clear buildings.
i play game before and after flinch
no trouble clear building
no trouble do good and massacre any defender or attacker
flinch add nothing but annoyance
flinch just makes people getting hit have a worse time than they already were
it isn’t fun and if something isnt FUN then why play it?
people will go to arma or squad or post scrotum if they want HYPER REALISM
and people will go to bf4 or cod if they want casual game
enlisted fills a nice middle ground of having a big battle and semi-realism without going too far in one direction
it is legitimately a fun game and flinch is one way to make it less fun
2 Likes
They were more than capable of clearing buildings before it was added, now they’re borderline overpowered in firefights so long as you can land a grazing hit with them.
Stunlocking people isn’t necessary to help clear buildings and now that I think about it, removing stunlock makes it even more rewarding to slowly take a building instead of just running in while hipfiring wildly. There’s your tactical addition there.
what are you even talking about just accept the fact that you main the mp41
Being borderline OP is the intended purpose here. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t have been used as much historically.
“They should be OP in game because they were good at it IRL”
Yeah making autos OP and meta isn’t going to make this a CoD clone or turn it into BF1 where everyone runs with the most OP builds. Just take a step back and play the game, my dude.
Well, that’s why I advice you to do. Thing is that gunplay is the one thing in this game that is currently mostly fine, and the Devs should concentrate on Network, opening up the maps and increasing player count. Not to make the game accommodate a few contrarians who cannot cope with its level of realism.
I’m the only one bothering to respond to you. If you read more of the thread, you’ll see that most of the people posting here share my opinion. It’s just that you’re way more vocal.
It was just that first guy and one or two others that supported flinch. The bulk of the thread was the ESLs fighting over perks and unrelated things. And they had other reasoning aside from the blind MUH REALISM that you’ve been on about for the better part of this afternoon.
I’ve got remnar and GI here along with people in the discord that think stunlocking SMGs is a bad mechanic.
gg no re
so you are basically saying that the mp41 should be op and the ppk and ppd being outclassed? maybe you should play as the russians more rather than playing germany
Can’t really say anything about the discord, since I’m not on it. For the thread, you’ve just seen that it is a minority opinion to get rid of the flinch. And even if it wasn’t, that’d be just an appeal to a fickle majority. For what ? Removing realism from a realistic game ?
And no, I’m decidedly not saying that. I’m saying that SMG’s in general should be op, ppk and ppd and every single other one included. The MP41 handles more like an Assault rifle right now, and I find it hard to believe that it is accurate, though I didn’t look it up. What they all should outclass are Bolt action rifles.
you can still have realism without having to get screwed over by the games horrendous flinch.
1 Like
For Flinch
You
Eloros
Kilroy
Kevin is up in the air
Against Flinch
Me
remnar
GI
And Vexeroy thinks it needs tuning
I don’t think that’s a majority vs minority, friend. Plus the discord has a few that agree with me in it too. And making the game shittier doesn’t equal realism, dude in regards to your later post since the one I’m replying to.
The game’s horrendous flinch is part of what makes it realistic. Or can you conclusively proof that no one would ever flinch when hit with a bullet ?
SMGs being OP is CoD and Battlefield btw and you’re just being a hypocrite in favor of making the game shittier and prone to automatic meta. Thanks for posting.
“I-it’s realistic p-p-prove that it isn’t”
It’s a video game, dude just stop.
It doesn’t matter since the goal is to make a fun game and you’re advocating for making it shittier in the name of your spastic idea of realism where “shitty and unfun = realism”
If you omit about 1/3 of the people in favor of flinch, it’ll of course not be as many. But again: This literally doesn’t matter. I just pointed it out to you because you mistakenly thought I was the only person saying that it is a good thing.
But if you wish to be so obnoxious to the details, how would you feel about it if I told you that none of the official material on the game says that it is supposed to be fun, but rather that some of the interviews and articles, as well as earlier promotional material says that it is supposed to be realistic even to the possible determent of fun ? And that it isn’t meant to be balanced or ‘sports like’ to begin with ?
Do you not realise that the majority of the playerbase of this hates the flinch in this game? if enlisted needs to survive once it gets out from the closed beta then they’ll need to make changes of how flinch affects firefights.