Proposed BR changes

Yes. It breaks my heart. This plane isnt just iconic, Its legendary.

Its flight model badly needs updating to the current warthunder one. It should perform far better than a BF 110 but in enlisted the opposite is true.

Im gonna have to repost my Mosquito thread. I was Hoping it got forwarded and wasnt a hard one to consider

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Thats the point though, if you want to use a plane with bombs you’re only option is dauntless in low br.

Thats for bombers,but you have the P51C,hurricane mk2,buffalo,and seagull (i know its bad but its still a bomber) which can still bomb pretty well if you know what you’re doing

Okay hurricane. But the rest is just a joke with 100lb/60kg bombs.

Wow, are you really comparing RMN to Fliegerfaust?

Okay then…

You can still do quite a lot of damage with those if placed right

I dont know. You can do the exact same with the RMN in terms of target groupd and it is still better at it for being at BR3.
While Fliegerfaust got nerfed to the point it requires you to directly hit infantry with it to damage them, let alone kill them. AA Performance is also bad. People kill more planes with ATRs than with the Faust.
I dont see why you cant compare them in terms of effectiveness or “trolling”.

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It’s classic GL. But without rifle aspect, with longer reload, and with option to have bigger ammo reserve.

In other words, it is better.

They might be lesser in the CAS payload department at these BRS, but saying they have nothing is way off the mark. The allies have fighters that will defeat everything the Germans can put in the Air without breaking a sweat. SO while their bomb loads are small, (Still capable of removing tanks I might add), they remove enemy planes like they are nothing.

  • BR 1Hurricane is deadly, Buffalo is “ok”
  • BR 2 Spitfires VC and VB specifically Can just toy with “Anything” they want to. Even BR 5 planes are just fodder for the Spit (Spitfire Mk IX when it comes will be the shit :slight_smile:)
  • BR 2 Wildcat and p-40e (why soviets got the better one?) are no slouch
  • BR 2 P-38 G is super fast, well armed and has those Tank busting rockets. The first spawn bane of Japan
  • BR 2 Dauntless has a Big fuck off bomb, and can out fly most German Attacker planes.

No sir, Everyone has access to capable/good planes at something, right from the word go. Japans Plane BRS are messed up a little but thanks to their insane turn rates, they can actually work - even their crappy armed planes.

Having the Best attacker Payload aircraft is great!!..when players refuse to use fighters and you are left alone (thats shame on them)…

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There are so many BR adjustments that would be beneficial to the game. I’m still waiting on Sten MkII(s) to be moved to BR 1. They moved the MP 40 silenced down to the same BR as the MP 40, so its only fair the Sten MkII(s) gets the same treatment.

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It’s my understanding the BR system is representative of the year in which in would have been used in war: e.g BR1-2 is early years while BR3-5 would be the latter years of the war. It’s not indicative of a weapons power or how good the gun is or isn’t. That being said technology progressed over the years so yes the higher the BR rating in most cases means the gun is more lethal or performs better but it’s not always the case. If I am wrong please correct me

Its power. Other wise PPSh-41, federov and KV 1 would be BR 1/2.

Then theres the rest. like MG 34, Tiger tank, thompson, bar etc etc

BR = Power

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thank’s for clarification

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It’s actually quite hilarious you’re trying to argue U.S. is fine with 100LB bombs while simultaneously trying to argue germany needs a plane with 3 250kg bombs in BR2

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Fighters

Attackers

Its not about need. Its about knowing the planes strengths and weaknesses (and making the right comparison for starters). Even if the d-3 was br 2, i still wouldnt use it over the D-5 lol

Honestly Its kind of funny The D-3 is the “noob trap” or sacrifical lamb. It gets sacrificed to appease the players that dont know what theyre talking about, to distract them from the better version of the “same plane” a BR lower.

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That’s what was originally intended. But since the developers are lazy to balance things to fit this system. We have a total pseudo system instead. That doesn’t match anything at all.

It’s too late to change it now, such a drastic change could only come along with the merge.

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Yes, that would be nice.

doubtful. Simply because the motorcycle itself is very bad

wait, a 250 kg bomb is small? there shouldn’t be bombs like that on br1

no thanks. This thing shouldn’t be in the game at all. It doesn’t fit this game. 95% of the time it’s terrible. 5% of the time it’s terribly strong and doesn’t give you a chance to win. I definitely don’t want to see it when playing BR2
If you personally bought this and you feel sorry for the money you spent, well. I bought Pacific and Stalingraв, let’s cry about it together. and suggest Dark Flow not to be a scam.

Honestly? I don’t care. The developer just copies tanks and calls it “New Content”. That’s the problem.

agree. PPD 34/38 should be done in the same way.

No.

There already is a damage difference between select fire rifles and semi auto rifles, the reason why Gerät is pointless in BR5 is because it deals less damage then regular G43.

If the damage was increased to guarantee “one hit downs”, I would actually use it in BR5, but you are also right, less damage basically means it kinda performs like the semi auto italian gold orders (Breda Carcano something forgot the name) as in a “spam fire semi auto rifle” - which isn’t a bad thing tbh.

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Since the thread I posted, they have Also added the Winchester G30R Semi Auto(20 round) to BR 4. In an engineer squad, a much higher value squad. (Which also has rocket artillery radio man) :expressionless: :expressionless: :expressionless:

To top it off the Winchester G30R has more damage than the Gerat and doesnt see body armor lol.

Then there is the fact that the Gerat 03 is the ONLY semi auto in the game at BR 5, and also the the lowest damage above BR 3

I was really sad I couldnt get their attention when they changed its magazine size a few patches ago and nothing else.

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