Proposed BR changes

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Some BR change stuff to make stuff make certian weapons/equipment make more sense.

MP 18 → BR 1
a worse MP34 at a BR higher thay you need to pay for,not much explaining needed

MP 28 extended → BR1
From the times I’ve used it in the big action mod,it feels exactly like a MP 34,and isn’t super controllable or have a high TTK like the PPS or MP40.

R75 → BR1
Motorcycles suck,at least at BR1 they might get some semblance of usefulness

JU 87 B2 → BR1
So much worse then the other stuka variants,the bad tail gunner,same smaller bombload,weak 7.92s,slow,turns like a brick.

BF 109 F4/Trop → BR 1/2
It has the same gun armament of the IAR but without any bombs at BR3,it makes zero sense to keep it there (i hope this one gets 4x 50kgs at some point)

Luftfaust → BR3
Why is this thing at BR5?that is the most tank populated BR which means this thing almost never gets use due to the neccesity of real AT to take out the constant threats.at BR3,it can do what it was meant to but without being too broken.

Panzerwhefer → BR3
This thing is terrible,zero armour,hard to aim,very few rockets,limited traverse MG that overheats way too fast,all at the same BR as the calliope,which does everything except penetration better then this.

Panzer 4H → BR3
There really isn’t much reason it should be at BR4,the shurtzen only really works against AT rifles (from my experience at least,but at that point why are you even using AT rifles),and the few extra degrees of turret rotation isn’t worth it to fight 76 jumbos and ISs,especially when you can get a very similar tank (with the same traverse speed I think) in the Panzer 4 G.

VMP 1926 → BR3
Much slower ROF then the PPD 34/38,around 30 less bullets,and not that much of a shorter reload to show for it.TTK would still be slower then the competing SMGs due to ROF,but it would be viable there due

BF 109 G6 → BR3
This may seem controverical,but let me explain.This plane would give germany a bomb carrying BR3 fighter even in the form of weak 50kg bombs,which they currently lack.This would be close in preformance to the P51,having slightly better dogfighing capability while having weaker bombs (the P51 has roughly 500kgs of bombs while the 109 G6 has 200kgs)

Chi Ha Kai → BR1
A tank that is really just a worse panzer 3 J due to a few factors,the main being the worse gun.would give BR1 japan a cannon that can finally do something,even though it isn’t much.

Ho-ni III → BR2
Its really just an enclosed marder 3 with no MG,there’s no reason to use it when you have the chi nu with the same gun at the same BR

D4Y1 → BR2
The thing is a weaker dauntless with the only tangible benefit being turn speed,which somehow justifies throwing it against P47s and AP4s when it was meant to fight hurricanes and dauntlesses

B5N2 → BR2 slow,no forward MGs,and both bombs being relased on one series,this thing isn’t what anyone should be using ever at BR3.

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I don’t understand why did they put it at BR4 while much stronger Suomis and MP-41(r) are better. Someone was drunk.

Especially since Ho-i is much better than that tank.

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Breda PG (CR) BR5 → BR4
It’s so inaccurate that it could be as well a BR4 weapon like Breda PG (it even has a better recoil than not just PG CR but FG42).

MP43/MKB42/Kiraly BR5 → BR4
They can’t compete against BR5 smgs/ARs/LMGs

MP35/1 BR3 → BR2
Germany doesn’t have a single high rof smg at BR2 so should go there, nobody is using that gun anyway at BR3 since you have ZK-383 and event guns with superior firepower and better recoil.

M38 with 40 rounds also could go down in BR

Marder III/Stug III F BR3 → BR2
It’s a TD nobody is using it since it has no turret and completely exposed crew

M10 BR4 → BR3
Overtiered yet another TD no reason to use it over Shermans 76mm or Jumbos

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What kind of justification is that? Fliegerfaust is not AT weapon. It is anti aircraft weapon. And it definitely should stay at BR5.

Saying that BR5 is most tank populated BR is just made up BS.

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Well, I personally don’t use that launcher because BR5 planes fly very fast, I never hit anything with that thing, I can see why he wants it at lower BR, but I agree with you… that could indeed be OP.

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Not OP, it just doesn’t fits low BR environment. It supposed to be just gimmick event reward. I don’t see any reason why anyone should be allowed to troll newbies with it. Especially if he intends to use it only against infantry.

That’s why it should stay at BR5. Veterans can deal with similar trolls pretty effectively.

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All very based

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Event, BP, and premium stuff don’t need to be better than TT stuff.
I use these cause they are rare and unique, not cause they’re good.
(I only have the non premium three, don’t know if the other is really that bad)

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It dosn’t have to be better then TT,but it can be,its something you spent money or time on.The MP18 and MP28 extended are not that great of weapons and feel like an MP34,the luftfaust is just a gimmick,the panzerwhefer is just not powerful enough to be BR4,and so is the VMP,and the chi ha kai is just plain overteired.

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I blame enlisted map design that restrict and made it hard for vehicles like motorcycle to traverse. even tanks have some problems traversing obstacle when they should be doing it with ease

I genuinely think the motorcycle is a fun unit to play with… when it was only for the tunisia campaign where the map is a lot more open to roam

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i wonder if the main line Germany, just a thought

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Yeah there’s too much junk around. Hence I’ve requested bulldozers be added either as driveable vehicles or a vehicle engineer squads can equip.

These would clear obstacles, make paths including knocking down trees, and drag tank hulks out of the way (eg. when a generated tank hulk and destroyed player tank are positioned that a road is completely blocked).

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Mostly looks reasonable. Id like to add

Gerat 03: BR 5 → BR 4

Tank Destroyers (All nations): Most go down 1 BR

AP-1 (Avenger): BR 3 → BR 2

Yak 9t: BR 4 → BR 3

Mosquito: BR 4 → BR 3

Ju-87 D-3: BR 3 -->BR 2

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There are tons of ridiculous requests here. This one stands out a lot though. Why do you think a plane with 3 250kg bombs should be br2?

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Because its ridiculous that anyone thinks the ju-87 D-3 is better than the ju-87 D-5 (BR 2).

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All bikes and the standard tech tree APCs should be BR1. I dont think there is an argument to say its protecting noobs by not including them when BR1 paratroopers exist.

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The mosquito needs it so bad, its such a horrible pick at BR4.

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IMO Germany should have the Italian G55 on BR3 which is currently BR4.
G55 is very comparable to P51-D5 and LA fn, both are BR3. G55 is slower but turns faster so ultimately its only marginally turning faster than P51 (tested it in combat) so it’s much more reasonable than the G6 which is already performing well for BR4.
It was originally proposed to be BR3 but someone whiny cried about it and it got BR4 even before merge released :expressionless:

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I think motorcycles should remain at BR2 however they need to get a big handling rework, since they are very annoying to drive on most maps. They feel like they are made of cardboard and rubber, they just bounce on any obstacle you ride over.

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The difference is that the d5 has 1 250kg bomb and d3 has 3 of them.

The fiat should definitely be BR3 but the stukas are fine as is