Possible solution for automatic rifles problem (2 different player bases)

im not whinning you are i see many people crying to limit guns limit them to classes
they nerfed semis so its 3 shots from a grand to kill a german i watch them round after round shrug off a .30 cal bullet to the chest and not die so screw semis
but restricting game play to sniper sim is not fun i dont want a bolt action on my best squad its level 1 gear when im level 30 its that simple its going backwards
and yes it a disadvantage cause i like full atuo limiting me to bolts is a disadvantage for me and people like me dont limit the game play learn the mechanics everything has a counter everything well almost everything except planes

Well yes, we’re voicing what we think is better for a game that’s literally promoting itself as a historically accurate WW2 shooter. And it’s something that would also fix balance as well since it’d limit EVERYONE and not allow full auto abuse/spam.

And yes, it is a disadvantage but an equally distributed disadvantage. You wouldn’t be restricted to purely bolt actions either. Since like I said, you’d be able to equip semi-auto rifles, so stop complaining about bolt actions. And what are you on about semi-autos being weak?? I literally use the M1 Garand all the time and that thing still destroys. I literally one-tap people, sometimes two-tap em if they’re premium and need an extra shot to take down. Are you sure it’s just not your skill here that’s the issue? Bc from the sounds of it, you just want to have the thing that you personally don’t suck with.

All I can say is get good man. Bc I use basically purely semi-autos and bolt actions(bolt actions for the moscow campaign) with only like one or two SMG’s here and there. With my SMGs only being on like one or two squads and only on one or two soldiers in those squads. And I can consistently get towards the top of the leaderboard basically just using semi-autos and bolt actions. So idk man sounds like it’s just a skill issue here for you. Bc I can say with certainty, that semi-autos and bolt actions DO NOT suck at all.

no it not equally distributed disadvantage it favors the german only and quit complaining the americans used fullatuo and semis so whats not accurate about that. germans always abuse every thing tanks planes when they shouldn’t be able to like history .the m1 grand still destroys are u stoned and and point blank its so bad now it take 3 shot at range when the German gewher 1 shots every thing but the m1 grand is bad i refuse to use it now
and German main always complain about skill but there a bunch of whinny babies who cant contented with fullatuos and they say limit them its not fair and i need to get good ok man. its only historically acuurate if they get the stuff they used anyone else cant have theres gear. thats game breaking and unfair that sums up german mains

Dude wtf are you on about?!?!?! :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

Holy shit I had to get that out. I am not a German main dude :joy: :joy: :joy: I’ve clearly stated that in my previous responses. I don’t want historically accurate balance just for the Americans. I want it for the Germans as well man. Can’t you read??

ur bias is what im saying
dont limit our stuff cause you suck not me im not crying to limit guns like a baby

And also yes, while I mostly am stoned when playing games bc that’s how I love to play games to feel more immersed. I am not mistaken when it comes to the power of the Garand. That thin still fuckin destroys and literally one taps. You really just need to learn how to shoot and how to use these weapons. And oh I’m not worried about taking on folks with Full autos. Bc I can do that just fine.
I just don’t want to see this bs full auto abuse where you’re slapping full autos onto everyone of your squad mates. Whether if you’re on the German side, American, Russian, or in the future on the brits side.

i can read and u said nothing about the germans only the allies
dont limit our stuff quit bitching get good and learn how to play the game

Bruh, I never said it was bc I couldn’t kill. Bc I can as I previously stated while using ONLY semi-autos and bolt actions. So I can handle myself just fine. I’m literally only claiming this bc I want this game to be more historically accurate like the devs are promoting it to be.

Bruh… go up and read :man_facepalming:

no it doesnt i used them alot every trooper had one they suck so bad now its not fair i kno ive used them

Then idk man you must really just suck then or just don’t know where to shoot them at :man_shrugging: literally just aim for the head or from the chest up and it’s a one tap or two tap if they’re premium

bolts and semis are true for everyone except Russia and USA… they were using bars for the troopers not the carbine but they used a full atuo gun thats historically accurate!!! so quit crying cause u want a bolt simulator russia used the premium squad gun that u guys cried about during testing

how do i suck for not wanting to use bolt actions every single match
on the contrary ur the one that sucks get good learn the game since u cant do that why dont you bomb spawn like all the lame German mains do

Lmao both those responses were a lot to take in :joy: the sheer ignorance on display here… Okay so firstly, the M1 Garand was the STANDARD ISSUE rifle for the US Army during WW2 and it carried on to be used in Korea as well as a bit in Vietnam. So don’t even try and say that the BAR and the other auto weapons were standard issue bc I know my shit.

And you’re the one that sucks bc all you can use is full autos or else you can’t get any kills. If you had enough skill to actually get kills, then you’d be able to use the bolt actions or semi autos with no problem at all like I do. But no, you’re here bitching that semi autos and bolt actions suck when in actuality, they do not whatsoever.

I’m not trying to turn the game into a bolt action sim. Which admittedly, I’d like to see that more than a full auto sim like you want. However, I awknowledge that there were other guns in use as well like semi autos and yes, full autos. But for the sake of historical accuracy, those SHOULD be limited to how many you can equip per squad so that it’s not entirenly abused like it currently is. Now perhaps for a faction like the US and (MAYBE) even the Germans during Normandy, the semi auto cap could be raised. Since the US did mainly use Garands during the war. And it’d only be fair for balance reasons so I wouldn’t mind a bump for semi autos in Normandy. Edit: But after thinking about that for a bit, maybe that raise in the semi auto cap for Germans wouldn’t be all that historically accurate. I’d have to look more into that to see how many G41’s or G43’s were used by Germany during the Normandy invasion.

But dude cut it with this German main bs :joy: :joy: I think I’ve only played the Germans like once or twice in my 8 or 9 months of consistently playing. So stop with that German main shit it’s too funny :joy: :joy:

Edit: Oh and about Russia, they mainly used their bolt action mosins throughout the war. With the full auto smg’s not being as common as their mosins. But yes ofc they were still used throughout the war. Just not in the capacity that you think they were or would like to make it seem like they were.

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Unless you want to get rid of the Springfield in Normandy as the standard rifle, all the History can take a back seat as the foundation is completely changed.

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Oh man I wish we could do that. I honestly wouldn’t mind starting off with the Garand for the US and the Springfield taking the back seat. Sadly tho I can’t see that happening :confused: with the devs more than likely wanting that to be what US players grind and strive for.

If it were my decision tho I’d do that. But for now all we can ask for is at the very least SOME historical accuracy when it comes to weapons. Which at the very least, could be the restriction of how many of each type of weapon you can bring in and what soldiers/squads you can put them on.

Edit: that’s tricky tho since in the case of the US, the Garand was standard issue so it’d make sense to have an entire squad with Garands and not limit semi autos for them.

Thats probably best explanation why people prefer the automatic weapons. As you really are better off with knife in CQB than with BA.

Even historically in the field these standards were deviated from quite considerably depending on what weapons were available between units/squads and mission.

Point being that we’re so far from history as a foundation any direct comparison to “History” doesn’t even apply. The B.A.R. being a good example… It’s not a LMG. That’s the 30cal Browning and if directly comparing to the MG34 would be something like 2 BAR + 1 30 cal = 2 MG34 or something similar.

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M2 needs to be removed. Add a late war campaign or expand "Normandy to just mean “1944-1945 europe theatre”

FG42 needs to be LOCKED to fallschirmjaeger squads AND role locked.

Fully expect the USA to get the super pershing in Normandy if they give the Germans the panther.