Possible solution for automatic rifles problem (2 different player bases)

live with it quit crying get good any of thoose work or if u would rather u could always spam planes like the rest of people do

lol, or Artillery/Mortars; whichever, works better for their particular level of engagement.

This morning this suggestion came to me that might resolve this issue and reduce the reliance on the M2/FG42.

It really comes down to fixing specialty classes more than anything.

Hell, has anyone just used a tank and immediately bailed out? Instant 5 guy SMG squad at low level.

yes all the time my tanks have thompsons and ammo packs

LOL, I might be going back to Moscow with this info and having completed Normandy

oh and pistols for every one as well grenades’ fully stocked up except mines there worthless

I’m good enough - I’m one of hte people wants some good history - so your oh-so-symathetic response completely misses the mark.

Par for the course with this place of course with its toxic ignorance.

Approaching Moscow differently now, has changed my impression… I had to retrain some of my squads a bit as I wanted to use the bomber prior and wasn’t thinking of the Tank as a APC.

u talk about toxic ignorance but u guys here cry limit these gun cause u don’t like them is not historical blah blah but lets say its perfect Germany would be not using bunch of panthers or tiger or puma as they were expensive to produce or spamming planes like u do. dont get started on the ammo, oil food, water, materials to build stuff were all running scare due to them being so spread out it screwed them selves and there factory’s being bombed and the ultimate fact is they the the war if it was historically accurate u would lose every time not fun gameplay so get off the high horse of not historical its fine where its at quit limiting our choices

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I bought the heavily discounted year, but Im investing in the future campaigns, hoping they are learning lessons on the current campaigns.

Maybe in future campaigns they tone down the CAS, arty spam, ect.

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Likewise, but I’m not optimistic.

Toning down isn’t enough for me - IMO the model they are using is fundamentally flawed - it gives a good ā€œgameā€ - but it is increasingly clear to me that it is not a good ā€œWW2 gameā€ - and that is what I was hoping for.

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But dude, the game is literally advertised as being historically accurate and whatnot… All the way down to the little details as the store page says. It’s what the majority of us CBT players bought into the game early for and it’s why many of them are still supporting it now. It’s not like we’re trying to change the game into something it wasn’t supposed to be. If anything, we’re trying to keep the game on track for what it was promised and promoted to be.

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it still is!!! u cant except to be 100 percent if it was historically accurate u would loose 100 percent of the time like what happened in history so maybe not to accurate dude quit cherry picking miner things just have fun!!! don’t limit your options if u don’t want them don’t use them dont that simple. but u don’t decide what i take into battle

But that’s not what historical accuracy means in these types of games. In these games, the historical accuracy people want deals with the environments, the weapons and loadouts, and vehicles. No one is claiming that they want it to be historically accurate in the way that the battle is won. Of course, for a game like this, it’s about players fighting in these battles and both sides trying to win. People just want these battles to have historically accurate equipment and vehicles so that they can be fully immersed in the battle and have a great WW2 game.

Also, when you’re referring to us losing ā€œ100% of the timeā€, what are you referring to here exactly?? Are you talking about the German faction or saying that all battles in the war were lost?? Your wording is confusing.

Edit: Also srry for the delayed reply. For some reason the forum shit itself for me when I was trying to reply earlier.

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And you don’t get to decide what someone else does and does not liked, nor what they can say about it.

No one wants ā€œ100% accuracyā€ - because the only way to do that is to time travel back to 1944 and enlist… everything other than that has compromised accuracy. But there are many things that are needless inaccuracy - they are not necessary to the game and indeed make it worse in the opinion of many people.

So if you don’t like them saying so then don’t read those posts - it is that simple.

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its not that i care what you say or what your opinion is. i care about that you cant have 100 percent historically accurate and have a super fun game ur gunna have to fudge a little to balance every thing out its really that simple. and i dont wanna divide half the community with nonsense and the bias with the germans they dont die when i shoot them with m1 grand how is that fair German smg act like machine gun shooting medium range when they shouldn’t… they shouldn’t be spamming planes, tanks as they were out numbered greatly they didnt have grey area protection from flanking either like in enlisted
then the germans love spawn camping for free kills but all i kno is if they cater to you now i will ask for my money back for my interests are not being considered and i will leave this game in the dust and let u have your bolt and Nazi lover simulator

Huh?

basically they lost the war. but the point is you dont get 100 percent and to claim its not accurate for literally like 3 guns outta place and so many are freaking out and going to leave cause its not accurate duh its not accurate it cant be if u want it to be fun removing the m2 fg42 doesn’t solve anything or limiting them to assaulter i paid money so my troopers are not quite useles there not hard to counter and why would i put a level 1 sniper on my leveled up squad thats like going backwards my last point is when we kno its not totally accurate u then dont get to cherry pick this is wrong but all these others are ok when we knew it wasn’t totally accurate you cant have your cake and eat it too

But I’m not arguing for accuracy only on the German side. I think you got me wrong here I’m not some Wehraboo or some shit like that. Whenever IM talking about historical accuracy, I’m talking about it all across the board. For the Russians, Brits, Americans, and Germans as well. Hell, I don’t even play the Germans at all. I stick only with the allies and basically stick to just Moscow with a bit of Normandy in there.

So I’m not advocating for German bias or for Germans to always be winning. What I want and what I’m sure many others want as well is a historically accurate WW2 game that’s fun. Which is what Enlisted has potential to be once it actually sorts everything out. And one thing that the game needs to sort out is it’s problem with all these auto rifles. Which is what can be done by restricting these certain guns to certain classes(or by restricting the amounts of them you can bring in).

And the game most definitely can be fun with these types of weapon restrictions in place. There are plenty of other games that do have restrictions like these and they’re still fun. Like RO2 and RS2 for example. It also does do something as it’ll stop literally everyone from just running these auto rifles on every soldier they can. Thus stopping the game turning into an auto rifle meta hell like its starting to become. Youre just getting mad bc you want to slap an auto rifle wherever you want which is just ridiculous. It’s also your fault for paying money to a game which is in beta and subject to change 🤷 it sucks but things can change at any moment and that means weapon metas too.

Also I don’t mean to be a dick or anything, but pls punctuate your sentences… that run on sentence was a bit painful to read…

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how is it ridiculous. that i leveled all the way to those weapons why should i now be limited cause it suit your fancy. and then punish me by taking or limiting those guns. that i paid for which will make them useless again i like what i like and i want auto cause im done playing bolts actions simulator I’m tired of trying to take a bunker with a bolt action its not fun and to limit trooper there almost useless take the m2 away from them they are totally use less u need to learn how to deal with them there not hard to counter

Okay well 1.) It’s ridiculous bc this is SUPPOSED to be a historically accurate and realistic WW2 game. So this shouldn’t even be an option in the first place.

And 2.) If these things are so easy to counter, then why are you complaining? If they’re so easy to counter then you should be on board with this kind of decision. Since it’s not singling you out and putting only you at a disadvantage. But everyone else as well. It’s leveling the playing field while also making it more historically accurate.

I get that you grinded for these weapons and whatnot, but you can still use them. Just not to the capacity that you could before if this type of change were to happen. Also, why not at the very least just use semi autos? That’d leave you with what, one or two auto guns per squad, and a handful of semi autos and bolt actions? Where you’d have a majority of semi autos and auto weapons? That doesn’t sound crippling at all. Especially when you consider that everyone else would be restricted in the same exact way.

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