Soviets are insanely limited in SMGS at T1 and T2.
Germany has many many good choices.
Just at T1
MP-28 and MP-34(O) are perfectly fine smgs and one of the better starter smgs imo
The M38 has the same stats as the M38 40 rounder just with 20 less rounds.
As⌠I said in my edit.
They would have the PPD.
cause it is statistical distribution
most accurate and most inaccurate shots have low chance of happening under normal distribution.
not to mention enlisted may use something like f distribution for its dispersion math.
and somehow i play most battles as axisâŚ
âshitâ german MG that suffer with 75 rounds.
so after some clicks we get quite different results.
Could say its quite much that 10% differency.
and im murrica main
okay, which is very relevant to subject of mg42.
Anyway here is 1shot 11kills
I guess theres no reason to not add 100 rounds for mg42.
i would check that data again⌠cause it seems like you entered something wrong cause this is not 10% difference. while similar outlayer situations like this are possible cause of RNG, they are equally possible for both MG and they are highly unlikely to happen.
at least try to include relevant clips. but i think we hijacked this topic enough with OT. btw unlike you i actually use mg42 as german sometimes.
Everyone here that claims that the FNAB is great has lost every credibility in my mind, that gun is completely worthless.
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And anything but the PPSh-41 with drum is actually unusable garbage compared to the PPS-43 lol
Also, please stop messing with the damn BRâs every week, im gonna go broke rebuying all my damn weapons lmao
It is good, not amazing but a good SMG for T2, I have the premium squad and use it in my T2 line up as it works wonders, will it lose to PPS-43? Yes, at close range, But mid range, It does great, Rof is nice, maybe on the slow side I can agree. But still works wonders.
Not if you canât control it.
Itâs already worse as it is at close range when purely considering raw damage output, so honestly any range longer than brawling distance and it performs better than a Tokarev round weapon.
âStrawman argumentâ
My guy, weâre talking about the guns in GENERAL. That makes any âstrawman argumentâ claim irrelevant as long as youâre talking about both guns.
It does, thatâs a HUGE difference when referring to a fully automatic weapon.
People already do that with MG42s as of right now by using them as CQC submachine guns⌠Adding a bigger magazine/belt/whatever will only decrease recoil due to larger weight and only make this problem worse.
Super steady recoil, huge magazine, and easy to control RoF is worthless?
dam you people still arguing over this ? the PPS 42 and 43 should stay at BR2. the gun is way less accurate compared to what the germans have. rate of fire is nothing if your shots canât hit the target properly
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not to mention that they arenât as good as the box ppsh or the drum SMGs hence why they are at br 2
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And what smgâs are uncontrollable ? Since so far only smgâs ive found some notable recoil are kiraly and tommys and even with them I can kill ppl with full auto on long range granted that I will miss quite many shots.
What is worse ?
Looks like beyond 50m it starts to perform better, considering the raw dmg output.
dispersion for 30 shots from fully upgraded mp40 and pps43 on 30m. tell me which color is mp40 and which color is pps43
MP40 green
PPS43 red
In their respective faction color. thatâs a great detail
accuracy/dispersion is basically the same on both guns and there is no noticeable difference between both guns.
btw you forgot TTK
while mp40 will have advantage over 50m, pps43 will be better past 65m. so advantage if you use short burst fire, unless they find burst fire also uncontrollable.
I wasnât stating which ones are, I stated RoF isnât an automatic benefit if they arenât controllable.
No context is given here of what these values indicate, but the raw resource documents state the PPS having worse damage in both close and longer ranges with more extreme damage dropoff than the MP-40.
Donât understand the point of posting this repeatedly when a large wooden target sitting still is much different to a heated battle whilst moving and someone else is shooting back at you.
Doesnât matter when you canât hit from further away. Donât know where these graphs are coming from when the official resources state otherwise.
MP-40 damage output is 5.5 at 50m, PPS is 5.05. Not sure where this is coming from. +You arenât factoring the worse dispersion.