Please give us weapon limits in OBT

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Yeah, I’m doing this again.
I will copy some of the things from my last posts and add some new ones

The Main issue

If you had enough patience to read most of it, you can see that the main problem past me had was that rare rifles have no limits for their use. CBT doesn’t offer a lot of rare rifles but in Alpha tests and Enlisted streams, we saw a lot of Easter eggs leaking future guns.
https://forum.enlisted.net/t/secret-documents-in-files/3519/2?u=73507743

People who play soviet teams know that by playing for over two months, they can arm all their soldiers with overpowered Winchester M1895 rifles.

Now what will this look like in OBT?

The entire German army armed with super rare Erma EMP’s

Or Soviets running around with Fedrov avtomat assault rifles

Also to mention that in Normandy and Berlin, we had the ability to arm every soldier class with StG-44
Do you think entire squads armed with these guns is okay?

Why is it better if we had weapon limits

By having one soldier in player’s whole line-up using a rare weapon, using this weapon and getting kills with it will feel satisfying

Also, unlocking the rarest weapons will feel like getting trophies and players will have passion to grind and collect all of them

For example: you have an StG-44 guy which you love and defend the most instead just having a whole army of StG guys, that way you’ll just end up bored

If you happened to read all the posts above, you can see that I suggested that only one rare weapon can be used per match so we can avoid seeing whole armies armed with rare weapons.

One of the suggested systems for weapon limits

When I started playing, most my opponents were armed with normal rifles. But after progressing, everyone is armed with submachine guns and riflemen all use grenade launchers which made the game completely broken meaning that every fight is in close quarters and gameplay is aggressive and sometimes even frustrating. To make this problem disappear, I came up with a plan, WEAPON LIMITS. So here’s how it works:

Weapon rarity:
All weapons will have their rarity, from “common” to “very rare”. Common weapons will be easy to get and can be used in unlimited numbers. Uncommon weapons are stronger rifles like pre-war Kar, better mosins and regular submachine guns can only be held by 5-7 soldiers from player’s lineup (when I say lineup, i mean all squads not just one). Rare weapons (Mp-41, PPK, PTRS-41, Rifle grenade launchers…) can only be obtained by 1 soldier. If Player has more guns of this class, he can choose which rare weapon will he use but will never have access to arm 2 guys with them. If the weapon belongs to premium squad only, player will have luxury to arm 2 soldiers with their premium weapon. Very rare weapons (RD-44, maxim-tokarev, FG-42, Fedrov avromat, AVS-36…) function exactly like rare weapons but they are even more extremely rare to get from boxes and getting one is like receiving a trophy.

OBT

Now we will get more guns in OBT

now to avoid having armies full of FG-42’s and ww1 Gewehr 98 guns, we should apply some sort of system which will limit them

Thanks for your patience :slightly_smiling_face:

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I think you did a much better job explaining the concept this time.

I can actually say this is a good idea that should be implemented :stuck_out_tongue:

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lol

I only copy-pasted my last 2 limit posts into 1 post and added something at the end :joy:

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I like the idea. Goes hand in hand with my desire to make this game more about rifles than CQC guns.

But will the devs get rid of their beloved premium squads for this? Absolutely not.

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Honestly those prem squads are CBT exclusive

Hopefully, future ones will be less bad

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LMG ones are not. And probably new ones will come for Normandy

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MG30 would like to know your location

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Nope.

If I grind for something, I want to use it as much as I can. Not be restricted from using it because of some arbitrary rule. All this would do is use one soldier with the good gun, when you die, respawn, use the good soldier from another squad, when you die again, respawn, rinse and repeat.

Stop with these moronic ideas of implementing limitations on things I either grind for or pay for.

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You can always “solve” this by making the weapon unobtainable if you own the max amount for them.

I do see your issue with this and it is very valid. But you know, as Keofox said:
“War isn’t fair” :)))))
“Who cares what you grind or pay for as war is not fair.”
(Honestly Keofox should not have said those words. Gives us way too many excuses to suggest dumb stuff / disregard valid criticism against ideas…)

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War isn’t fair, if I get an entire squad of STG-44’s running around against the allies, it is what it is.

War isn’t fair. :slight_smile:

Any idea to limit weapons you get and use is moronic, end of story.

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Goes both ways

War isn’t fair enough to give you these weapons, which is why they added the lootbox mechanics.

(To be clear: At this point I am only arguing for the sake of showing how dumb the decision to use “War isn’t fair” as an excuse to implement an entire new weapon type is)

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Let’s rephrase then, this is a game designed to make money at the end of the day.

If they add these limitations, I’m taking my money elsewhere, so will the friends I play this with. So will others that don’t want to see these “fun” mechanics. It’s as simple as that.

There’s nothing to gain here from this, it’s not engaging, it’s not fun, it’s frustrating.

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I don’t think it’s a good idea. We should rather give allies more advantages. It’s a joke that Germany has air advantage at Normandy, U.S should be able to have 2 planes at the same time.

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This is not a topic for asymmetrical balance

I want asymmetry too but this topic is all about limiting the rare guns

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These limitations only apply to limiting rare guns, not removing them, not nerfing them and not making a p2w system out of them

This is also a balancing suggestion. If Winchester is clearly better than Mosin in every way, why not make it be in less numbers

If you want to run around the battlefield with full StG squad, then might as well make Enlisted a Single player game

Now I see @5762269 liked your comment, I want to know why did he change his opinion :upside_down_face:

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I don’t really care what they apply to.

If I spend months grinding for something, I want to use that something as much as I can, not be blocked from using what I spent my time and potentially my money on getting.

Like I said, if the devs add this because their idea of balancing is limiting the use of the things I grind and potentially pay for, i’m taking my money elsewhere. So will others. It’s clearly not being put to good use at that point.

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ok then

You go stomp the whole game with unlimited StG-44
I won’t interfere

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I did not change my opinion. I simply think his feedback on this topic is valid.

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k.