Penalties for deserter don't need to be harsh

No.

We all want the same thing: fair matches for everyone.

I just want things fixed before applying something that won’t help in the long run, if things remain in their current state.

Again, even if you guys dislike the half (or whatever %) that desert… They’re still many. Pissing off a good chunk of the playerbase, is never a good idea, even if desertion IS INDEED a plague.

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I disagree, 65% of my games aren’t invasion.

I’d rather not get conquest either, yet I still play it and win majority of the time in under 10 minutes. My conquests games are also intense and competitive 90% of the time. It’s free exp. It’s part of the game so get used to it.

You and I have different opinions on the merge, I think it was fine and beneficial to the game. DF haven’t done anything wrong in my books so why wouldn’t I trust them?

How is half your team deserting on conquest fair to the players that stay?? Current state of enlisted is fine. Yes it could have some more choices in maps you want to play but no one will ever be 100% able to get the map they want. People are still going to leave games no matter how much silver you give them. Which makes it unfair to players who want to actually play. It’s a classic case of if you don’t want the punishment, don’t do the crime. Simple math.

If I had play same conquest map 4th time in a row that would end too fast and experience gained from it would be minimal… I would just honestly leave the match. Being punished for that isn’t really helping the issue.

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WHY would as many desert in the first place?

Fix the “why” first. it’s usually more than just the game mode.

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Also keep in mind that it is apparently planned that desertion will be added to stat trackers

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When I said half, that was an example. It’s not always half the players in a match. Just the bad apples.

All well and good that they add it to stats but it’s kind of pointless when only you can see your own stats. Not gonna stop people anyway.

Yeah, but it will impact those that leave for win rate reasons.

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Darkflow, for the funnies add this

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these are from global stats. individual experience may vary depending on faction/BR/RNG.

merge was needed i agree, but they f*cked up on how they did it. for 10 months of work it was half assed job. this is the reason why i dont believe in DF anymore.

actually statistically conquest is most popular game mode with least desertion overall (with mostly normandy/berlin maps being outlier with higher desertion stat).

we dont need map we want. we need just not get map we dont want.

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Great idea, something like this perhaps?

:chicken:Deserter:chicken:

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Star Trek I

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Nothing bitter there at all :man_shrugging:t2: but take it how you want.

Notice how I didn’t reply to you the previous 2 times you’ve replied to me? :thinking: probably because you’re arguments aren’t relevant because you have nothing to contribute to the conversation. But keep trying to be included in the grown ups conversation champ.

Middle finger is clearly normal.

Yes and now you apparently preferred to reply to your compilation of bitterness and toxicity because that is apparently easier than saying anything constructive to the non-compilation.

Yeah, I should also use the middle finger emoji and emojis like those grown-ups who have fewer likes than the children because their points make more sense.

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My point proven :clown_face: I’d reply to you with something constructive if you actually said something constructive as seen how I’m replying to everyone else but you. Your constant need to be included so you keep replying to me when I’m having a conversation is just sad. Let the grownups talk.

Is it too much to ask the grownup to ask for a adult reply to a simple post to teach the plebs? What is the difference between this and @Conscript_Joe ?

Apparently yes, another adult emoji it is.

i hope this guy fights a 6 stack of clan members

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Dude!
I support that one 100% :laughing:

It’s fair. you chicken out, you get called chicken. But at least it won’t alienate a good chunk of the playerbase from the game (maybe except susceptible ones?)

(I really just love wacky, funny things)

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I’ll just take my stack in too