And what did you expect, lol?
The slow turret rotation was removed ages ago. The J has the same speed as the H so therefore they both should be BR 3.
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oh, that is actually true it’s been ages since i used the J, but it is better not as fast as the G or H but it seems they are using the current WT values. When did they change it?
it is super weird how the H is still BR IV, when pretty much all the 75mm KwK/StuK40 are at BR III (the only exception being the regulars Jagdpanzer IV), the turret traverse thing was never relevant because the command J from Berlin had exactly the same turret traverse as the H variant while being BR III. I guess they wanted to be at the same BR as the T-34-85 and M4A1 76.
But well at BR IV there are some really questionable BR choices for most trees like the Chi-Nu and M10 Wolverine.
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Agree with you, as a BR V germany main, I end up against new players with their some low tier soviet tanks like t34- kv1 etc etc, and even if I hit their Green and Yellow Parts They survives from My King Tiger’s 5 Shoot, Dont know why, Funny thing is even IS and IS2 dies easily compared to low tier soviet tanks
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not true. J still has slower rotation than H, although it seems like they buffed J from its previous ultra slow rotation.
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Darkflow accidentally ported over Russian bias from War Thunder.
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cat updated table.
10°/s vs 14°/s for maxed tank. considering J was 6°/s before, this is considerable buff for J.
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As long as Chi-Nu stays BR4 tank, there’s no reasonable argument for changing Pz IV H to BR3.
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That is just a huge swing and a miss. I really dont understand How some of these Japanese vehicles get pushed so high.
Chi-Nu
D4Y1
B5N2
Majorly over Tiered
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idk what is so hard to understand. DF wanted japan to have 5 BR tiers, so they stretched their technology tree. realistically speaking japan should have been BR3 faction (without current paper BR5).
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I tested them both and couldn’t notice a difference.
I’d still say that they both deserve to be BR 3 though.
I would have preferred to keep the J with the old
rotation speed because now they feel the same.
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Hard to understand when there was a better option. Personally, BRs are better empty than filled with the wrong/inconsistant power level…IMO
There are much better choices that could have been added to fill these spots. For example didnt have to add “2” BR 5 fighters, and put in somethine Else at 4. Like Chi-Ri II or B7A2
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They could just easily skip BR4. They didn’t add BR4 MG and literally nobody cared.
Way better solution than to overtier some vehicles just to fill some gaps in tech tree.
Plus they could add Chi-to or Chi-ri instead of Chi-nu in the first place. Chi-nu is post merge tank.
So there’s quite a lot of things that’s hard to understand :)))
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here fixed that for ya.
i am not saying that there were not better options, just that stupid implementation of DF isnt hard to understand. too many weapons and vehicles are either overtiered or just artificially buffed to “justify” them for their tier.
do a 90° turn and count how much time it takes to turn for both of them. you will see difference
well idk if i would have put them both on BR3 or BR4. there are pros and cons for both options.
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No, that’s simply not true.
And I definitely do not know of many vehicles and weapons that were postmerge artificially buffed to justify their BRs.
But I definitely wouldn’t mind that solution tho. Would be way better to see artificially buffed volksturm weapons at higher BRs than what we have now.
based on stats type 4 is basically g41, but they buffed its recoil with 0.7 modifier to justify it on BR4. type hei AR is artificially buffed with recoil to be on BR5. type hei has buffed default recoil compared to any other rifle with same cartridge etc.
Well pre-merge and pre-nerf type 4 was still way superior. 
It was really fun and enjoyable weapon. It’s really shame of what they have done to it.
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Exactly because F2 and G are already on BR3, and we don’t need two more clones there
J and H should be BR4 for variety and authenticity as well
How many Pz 4 H’s have you seen after the merge? In the 1000+ games I’ve played post merge, I’ve only ever seen 2.
If they remain/move to BR 4, no one is going to pick them over a panther or tiger. I’d rather see the F2 move to BR 2. The G is rare so if it moved to BR 2 or stayed in BR 3 I wouldn’t care.
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