New RANKED mode for more serious players

friendly fire from explosions ? :woozy_face:
i remind you pilots are completely BLIND.

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I don’t even know where to begin.

What problem is this even trying to solve?
Why are the mechanics arbitrarily put together with no thought?
What benefits would one have to submitting themselves to this onerous mode?
What will this do that a properly organized custom match can’t?

Do you literally just throw random suggestions at the wall and hope it sticks?

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Ah, this type of FPS game with a big battlefield (compared to CS and Valorant) seldom had a true rank mode, and I’m not sure if adding a ladder would be a good idea.

Because the unranked mode is casual, even if the game is not as balanced, people won’t care too much. However, with the ranked mode implemented, if the game is not balanced, all the shortcomings in the game will be magnified, ultimately turning into a completely garbage game in the eyes of players, complaints will drown out this game and community. Personally, I don’t think DF has the ability to control balance.

  1. Learn how to play without just spamming explosives non-stop, and you shouldn’t have an issue. If you don’t think that is feasible with the way you play, DON’T play it.

  2. One squad being teamkilled wouldn’t get you kicked. It’s only when you do it like 3 times, where you obviously aren’t even trying to avoid it, that you will suffer penalties.

That’s the point of a competitive setting, you aren’t always going to get the perfect map. Suck it up and deal with it or DON’T play the mode.

The more serious players get their set of lobbies, while more casual players get to enjoy the normal lobbies with less “try-hards” that they seem to have so much issue playing against.
Seems like a win-win to me.

I have yet to see anyone post any ACTUAL solutions to this “problem”, and my suggestion won’t HURT the current situation it that regard, so what is the actual problem here?

You say

There are plenty of players that actually push in competitive manner, and enjoy games that are more evenly matched. Almost everyone that I’ve ever had a voicechat with (probably around 90-100 players), have all stated as much.
GRANTED, I predominately play on Console, so maybe its just a PC problem.

As players progress into higher tiers of ranked, you WILL see more groups and coordination. That is literally the case in almost ANY game that has a ranked mode.

In ADDITION, it helps you to narrow down potential teammates!!! Rather than finding one good player here and there to invite, you can now go down the list in a higher ranked tier match and find players that are not just good, but very likely to be down to work in a coordinated team.

If you are simply against being social and working with a team, this mode simply isn’t for you.

If the devs actually want to see their game expand in a meaningful way, as far as playerbase is concerned, this is a good place to start.
Currently the game is getting pretty stagnant as its the same spam methods EVERY SINGLE GAME. It only ever changes up when their are intelligent, good players on both teams.
THIS suggestion addresses that, without messing with the Standard mode.

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“serious players” is just code for sweaty exploiters

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They may be sweaty to you but some people actually like to play the game with tactics and strategies instead of running at the objective like a horde of zombies

Nobody running AD-44’s is using “tactics”, get real

Please do tell, which “exploits” you are referring to?

The friendly fire damage from explosions suggestion is specifically to deal with gameplay that is currently heavily exploited.

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That’s because this game does not really help support tactics and strategy when all the changes they’ve been doing in the last few updates have been supporting fast-paced gameplay

… uh, I do. So does numerous members of my friend group.

We don’t rush straight at the point. We flank, use smoke, we use them on semi-auto at range, etc.

I know that isn’t the case for everyone, but again, that is where balancing comes in.

Perhaps through the suggested mode, developers could get a better idea of how such weapons need to be better balanced. It would serve as a more controlled setting to get information on weapon and item performance. Where a lot of the “skill issue” guesswork is removed.

question.

might be offtopic at first, but i will explain it slighlty better down the line.

how big is your " group " of friends that you keep talking about?

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Frequent players: about 25 - 30.
Total group size: 64 as of current.

Before you say it, YES we play customs.

However, it would be a lot more entertaining overall to have other players on a massive scale.

and… you’re telling us that a total of 64 players couldn’t put together make some sort of mods with all the wanted choices and settings to actually even provide or show something as a gamemode to then gather large attraction and back up even more numbers to hopefully introduce it?

because if the answer is no, and … i’m afraid we both know the answer.

does feel like a:

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We are ALL on CONSOLE. We don’t have that option.

We do have “rules” within the custom games, and have to go by an honor system. There is no support for console players to “customize” a custom game beyond choosing the map and what armies are allowed.

EDIT: Please note that console players aren’t even given any kind of access to TEST SERVERS either!!
So when you hear us complaining about new balance changes, its because they didn’t even bother to test how it would effect us!

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Well looks like you beat me to it and I was gonna say something like that

oh.

right.

that would explains a few things.

however.
which… sounds like, the suggestion it self should be regarding customs.

don’t you think?

like, actually getting improvements for customs.

like, getting the equipment selector that was promised.
more support options for consoles etc, and then push for other suggestions?

sounds like a priority to me ( one that i share too )

yet… no friends of yours visit or interact on the forum?

could help for starter to that improvements for customs.

as much i would like to help. can’t do much beside the one i did a while ago.

but people don’t care. ( at least on pc )

however, an updated version that includes consoles issues with more than 64 likes surely would improve things and get noticed.

which would then additionally open new solutions and a base to work with ideas like the one in this thread.

make customs actual customs instead of… idk what we have can even be called.

( as one would call it, and i find it funny as real, that is Hopium speaking )

A couple of them do here and there, but always get accused of being alternate accounts just because they share the same opinion as me.
They HATE the toxicity that they are shown by other members, so they only really come in when I greatly urge them too.

IF the forums were better monitored and the toxic members actually weeded out, I could see them jumping in more.

I really think that to get the game to actually grow in popularity, especially among console players (I can’t speak for PC), there needs to be more main mode OPTIONS, not just customs.

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Plot twist!

In such ranked mode with FF,

AP mines can be triggered by friendlies.

Afterall, those in Enlisted that you can merely drop WHILE RUNNING or scummy place on rallies, aren’t sweaty or try hard at all…

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so… what?

people call me thousants names, one shouldn’t get offended by a bunch of test?

that wouldn’t be a forum, wouldn’t it.

well, that is not certain.

the reason why customs and mods should be improved it’s because it would allow you to do precisely what you want to then gather enough numbers and people to prove a point and eventually turn what you made into a matchmaker of it’s own.

not the other way around.

or come with statements like " many people would like it " to then being literally 50 players enjoying one thing and being mostly deserted like old lone fighter as a matchmaker. devs only make stuff that is played and has potential,. not of niche.
either way,
usually, skipping ahead never works nor makes anything happens.

which, i personally do not know the issues from consoles.
but i do know the issues on pc and how customs aren’t actually customs.

therefore, you can make a big thread about customs, and… i guess send your horde ( :joy: )
but it would certainly improve the situation for everyone and lay a foundation to do what you want.

Yet they have their mech mode that they have made unique assets for and appears for a short time each year…

I’m not asking for unique maps, or even unique items. Just certain elements to be to toggled on or off, and a ranking system, that let’s face it, they just overhauled everything to change it up to the new BR system, AND have frequent events.

It shouldn’t be too hard to set up, and therefore not a huge waste IF it were to fail.

I can try, but I still think a RANKED mode like I am suggesting is ultimately something that NEEDS to happen, to keep the game interesting overall.