I’m pretty sure stalingrad it will be over after the merge. It will become in some generic russian city map N° X. The weapons we see there depends on the BR. And get ready to see Tiger I in those generic russians cities too, since it was used in lenningrad and it’s from “mid war”.
Devs already said they don’t care much about historicy.
In the end, it seems to me that what you are saying is just your speculation and hope.
Your reply does not change at all the opinion I expressed in my earlier post.
You can put everything you claim in the game and still not have complete historical accuracy. The terrain of Guadalcanal Island is different from historical fact, the soldiers do not wear pouches with spare ammunition (appearance), and the US and Japanese forces have different numbers of men in their squads than in historical fact to begin with. In the first place, players should not be able to change the formation of squads at will. Syringes do not heal gunshot wounds. etc etc… There are many things that are not historically accurate.
If you are willing to allow for the game’s gameplay deformations, staging, and historical inaccuracies, and only want us to accept your argument, then this topic becomes about preferences that have nothing to do with historical accuracy. In that case, what you need to do is not to talk about history, but to explain in a way that people can understand the enjoyment of Stalingrad without MKb.
And if you really want to be fair and make Enlisted a completely historically accurate game instead of just incorporating your arguments, then Enlisted becomes a different game that is no longer Enlisted. I don’t know if that game would be interesting or not, but it would at least lose some of the interest that this game has now. I do not want to play Enlisted as such. If you are looking for a true historical game, then this is not the game you should be playing.
The helper said that the custom matches will be enhanced after the campaign merge. It will allow you to limit weapons, etc. and create your own situations… this is what you want.
You can design your own historical game as you see fit and play with people who have the same preferences as you. It’s the best way to do it.
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My MKB gripe is purely historical/stylistic and not gameplay-wise.
For the sake of balance I couldn’t care less which weapons get locked off for USSR in Stalingrad to compensate for MKB loss.
Just make Stalingrad’s “native BR” 0.1 less than MKB/AVT/Fedorov or whatever.
In other words: current Stalingrad campaign until level 24 => Stalingrad maps, level 25 and above (MKB, sniper MKB, AVT, sniper AVS) => Stalingrad BR + 0.1 so that they go to
Sorry I see no reason to think a burning house is a Stalingrad house.
All facts (Russian and English alike) are pointing towards Spring 1943 deployment of 2000 MKBs.
since i did purchase a MP43/I and a fg42 Replica 2 months ago, i was higly interested in the serial numbers.
(yes i do own multiple ww2 stuff, my most precious item is the m30 drilling (shown in this forum before)
so i saved this;
its a list of all known numbers (serial) to production date and various other date,. you can keep the url and refresh it as month goes, (check last update on right top corner on the document )
scroll to last pages:
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MKb42(H)
Production began in 1942 and ended in Sept. 43 -
Production according to Waffen-Revue #43:
Mkb42 in 1942: 116 -
batle of stalingrad :
August 1942 – 2 February 1943)
give me 1 simple reason, why a gun that was avaiable, that cant be there. besides your “personal feelings regarding the streets of stalingrad”
“because wasnt there” ? . can you prove that ? . again, the gun existed, as a ww2 gun, and wasnt a time travel gun,
i m trying to have a picture, of a german general, signing a photo , of a mkb in 42, holding a daily paper to prove the date, but its kinda hard…
if you are interested :
its a collective effort take it as “work in progress” since not all data is avaiable… you know… to avoid fraud.
if we are adult enough to consider that the above is real or in -0.01% from truth, atleast 116 serials of mkb H were produced in 42,
since isnt a time travel gun, Give me 1 reason, that cant be on a online game on a mission that “simulate” that time period ?
“wasnt there” is as valid as “was there” since there is no data .
is a time travel gun? no.
all the above if you ask for a source : Waffen-Revue (Number 43)
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You may contact the author and ask for hes references.
So we’re accepting a regular chap that simply is gun enthusiast as some sort of solid rock evidence but another author with somewhat similar credentials isnt plausible ?
Eh.
No special treatments to stalingrad.
Will be snow eastern front 1,2,3,4 and 5 maps.
Custom games will be the place where you can do what ever your “historical accuracy” means.
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Eastern front is interesting in that it’s a focal point of interest for many but still a lot of mysteries. The Germans and Russians were burning and destroying so much documentation and data during their retreats and advances that still today there are plenty of divisions and commanders whose war activities have minimal information. The mkb is an example of this, scarce information and differing sources on field introduction. Any opinion of its use in Stalingrad or lack of is valid. I will say though, that I think we should just defer to production time, simpler.
I don’t know how many times Veekay needs to be told that BR will not be a hard limit on what maps you can and cannot play, not to mention all the 1945 garbage that will be low-BR.
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They may have indeed produced prototypes in 1942 but the only mentions of any MKBb being sent to/used in/captured in Russia I have ever seen date Spring 1943.
By the same mental gymnastics we can talk about IS-3: first produced in May 1945 - yes, sent to the army in June 1945 - yes, WW2 tank - pretty much yes.
But is there any record of it used in Berlin or does it fit to Berlin? I don’t think so.
Anyway, I don’t see the reason for “MKB in Stalingrad” gatekeeping if it can (will be) be used in dozens of other, more fitting maps.
Don’t know how many times Manbearpig needs to be told to read the devblogs where devs and helpers explicitly state that the game will try to find a map most suitable for the loadout and that while weird shit is technically possible, it is less likely than normal state of things.
I specifically used soft in many of my messages.
That’s complete cancer just like Moroccan boys in the Pacific and a failure for any WW2 game in my book.
well there you go.
Quite sure it will eventually come. Just like all other proto / never used / wrong place soviet weaponry cause muh soviet suffer
Then play custom games
outfits / skins are map locked its been said about million times by now.
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Same book same author same wiki sentence “By one account…”?
Try something new.
By one account, you don’t have anything new.
Oh now muh gurmain is touched by Stalinium again. Show on the doll.
Then play custom games
These are premium squads you silly boy:
Coping is hard, I know.
Well now you have seen.
You may contact the author and prove his wrong.
Either way its not any better claim than yours.
Not only soviets gets pampered like babies equipment wise but you actually open another front on forums asking nerf germans ?
You want aimbot or something since it seems the best equipment of the game aint enough for you ?
Nah, dont have to. Im not really intrested of HA which has its place in customs.
Read first whine after
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Random American grandpa writes about the Eastern Front with “trust me bro” sources - yeah that’s as far from evidence as it gets.
Burden on proof is on you, not me. Contact the guy and let me know.
I know reading is hard for you, but if you actually read the topic you’ll how I state I don’t care about buffing/nerfing anything, but moving Stalingrads level 24 and above weapons to other maps after merge.
I understand it’s difficult when you’re blinded by soviet mains witch hunt, but try.
This is not “HA” lol this is common sense.
Go enjoy mechs and Tiger 2s on the moon in customs.
You really don’t understand the difference between Customisation and Premium squads? Aw.
Moroccan boys will be Moroccan boys in the Pacific. With French/Arabic/whatever they speak voices.
Literally helper/dev confirmed it.
So sorry you’re wrong again.
sure, right after you have provided your prove to claim it never was used.
Trustmebro source doesnt exactly count on your end either.
Aaaaand alot of unnecessary whining again as custom games will the place where you can do what ever the fk is your vision of historical accuracy.
Not the matchmake / core game.
Will do it in matchmake just like majority.
Q. What will happen to the customization when the campaigns are combined into a country? For the USSR, I can get to Moscow at the beginning of WWII and Berlin at the end of the war — but the uniforms of soldiers in the Red Army have changed since then.
A. Each squad will have several clothing options, which we’ll associate with battle locations. You will be able to change squad clothing in each of these variants individually. All clothing items you’ve already purchased will be kept.
Pay attention to part each squad.
Just incase you still missed it, it says “Each squad”
It doesnt say every squad excluding premiums.
Nor it doesnt say most squads excluding premiums.
It says each squad.
Dont worry, most likely this will include the skins so you dont need to worry about your afrophobia.
Until proven it was there before Spring 1943, it wasn’t there.
Because the next best proof is Soviet capture in Summer 1943.
Mmm yes from “soviet main” to custom games. Solid 5 year old logic.
I’ll be laughing so extra hard when they release the Merge and Moroccan boys are still Moroccan boys in the pacific just with slightly tan bath robes.
“Customization for every biome” my ass.
Now entertain me these 2 questions:
- why do you need your beloved fantasy mkb in Stalingrad if it was never there, can you not use it on other maps?
- if the Stalingrad German army had mkbs there, then gor surrounded and surrendered – where did all the mkbs disappear, thin air?
Except you havent proven it wasnt there.
Ian -/- Book author, either both are credible sources or neither are.
Your “source” didnt exactly provide any evidence otherthan hes word about subject either.
You know the decissions has been made already.
HA = Customs
Matchmake = combined
No matter how much you shed tears over the fact it wont change.
Perhaps because I like variety in maps ? Regardless am I using KT2 or M4 assault rifle.
Well considering theres still atleast 500.000 MIA in soviet ranks, and probably millions of minorities that “magically disappeared to thin air”
Id say less than 50 MKB’s are rather easily lost in soviet union.
No, he’s right. I don’t want to go digging for it, but the Moroccan March squad can go to the Pacific as confirmed by multiple helpers.
I’ve already ranted about it before, but it’s unbelievably stupid and unnecessary. Just lock the squad to Tunisia, or give it a different uniform when it goes to the pacific. The Berthier being there is believable-ish, but seriously, just change the uniforms to something like a British Indian or Phillipine squad. It would even make the squad more valuable by essentially giving two squads in one.
James already said they get another uniform but dont spoiled more, i bet is a french uniform
If you don’t mind, could you tell me where I can find that? I would be a lot happier if that’s true.
Wait i post it
I dont find the one of james forget in what topic is, but there this one
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