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Won’t say there are other big issues. But just want to remind the devs that the Axis after merge will have far more variety of weapons, and benefit largely for having every special things: riders, paratroops, white phosphorus etc.
That’s not gonna to be fair to the Soviet players( lack of the above mentioned special things) nor to the other Allies (lack of high tier weapons).
Lastly, please fix the tank gun for IS-2, it wont work if it takes 15-20 sec to reload and either HE bounces away, or AP penetrates and make enemies yellow.

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I will be able to keep my stalingrad assaut rifle engineer?

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they said u would before

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well, italy

Cries in kamikaze

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Then the fedorov shall be premium, bismillah. A lot of guns can be moved to gold/premium anyway because there’s no way some stuff saw much use in certain battlefields or at all. Probably not going to find many Italian guns on the eastern front or Johnsons in Europe.

yeah, but you can always change stats of the fedorov so it is not overpowered and fits more early game as a counterpart to mp28 and mp 38/40

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well burn’em out :slight_smile:

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Shouldnt Research Points already do the Research unlock job?
Why the hell there’s Silver required here?

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And there are many more iterations of this gun in the mix right now, the 20 round mag, m1 (with mp40 style folding stock), m38/42, and the original m38. How are they gonna be balanced then?

Would have preferred if progression tree was used to represent development of military technology instead of being a balancing tool. That would have felt more natural and rewarding, I think. Balancing can be done through other means like loadout points. At least that way it would have worked all the time and not only when there’s “enough people in the queue”.

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Why is the M2 positioned on par with the MP43?
The M1919a6 is at the far end of the machine gun, and it doesn’t make sense that it’s behind the MG15.
Fyodorov is definitely not a gun in the same class as Kiraly. The difference between pistol bullets and rifle bullets is obvious.
The M18 will never be the tank at the end of the tree.

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The G98 sniper will be removed? what is going to happen to the people that already own them?

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I like a lot of the stuff here, but I do feel like some of the semi automatics are too far into the late tiers, the gewehr 41 and M1 Garand seem to be unnecessarily late. I think taking them down to the first half of 8 would be more reasonable, though the other semis look fine (:

When looking at the available spreadsheet, it seems that the distribution of weapons across tiers is too evenly spread, leading to various issues. Given the current situation where bolt-action rifles can kill most opponents in one shot, there is no significant practical difference in performance among bolt-action rifles. Therefore, I believe there is no need to distribute bolt-action rifles evenly across multiple tiers. Frankly, personally, I don’t see a significant difference between the basic bolt-action rifle, Kar98k, and the late-game unlocked Pre-War Kar98k, to the extent that they should be categorized as Tier 1 and Tier 4, respectively.

Furthermore, there also appears to be an issue of fairness in the distribution of weapons across tiers. The USA’s Tier 4 submachine gun, Lancaster, is placed in the same tier as Germany’s Tier 4 submachine gun, FNAB-43. When comparing the performance of these two firearms, the Lancaster outperforms the FNAB-43. Additionally, the Lancaster has better performance than Germany’s MP40, which is located in Tier 6.

As mentioned earlier, I believe that by distributing weapons too evenly across 10 tiers, fairness issues are bound to arise. Some weapon categories in the mid to late tiers have a distribution that is not justified by the performance differences between each weapon, and this is a problem caused by the excessive distribution of weapons across tiers in the early stages. Personally, I think it would be better to compress the weapon distribution between Tiers 1 and 4, create more starting points in the tech tree, and then reorganize the weapon distribution in the more relaxed mid to late tiers.

Additionally, there seems to be a need for an upgrade in the tier of aircraft equipped with rockets. Compared to aircraft carrying conventional free-fall bombs, aircraft equipped with ground-attack rockets, such as the Beaufighter and Bf110G-2 located in Tier 5, possess significantly better flight performance and a substantial presence in terms of anti-aircraft capabilities when compared to IL-2-37 in the same tier. They have the potential to disrupt the attacking side’s offensive waves with just one bombing run due to their high lethality and abundant attack opportunities. I believe there is a need to increase the tier of aircraft that carry rockets while maintaining high flight performance.

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Looks mostly ok at the first look - i gotta look at it for some more time before giving my full opinion BUT already one question: What will happen with all the planes, weapons and tanks which are not included in this tech-tree? for example SB2 M from soviets or Sniper Gewehr 98 for the Germans? and why tf is IS2 coming before Tiger 2 makes no sense at all - if it was the Tiger 2 H it’d be fine but Tiger 2 p should be before IS2 like at least 0,5 lvl or even 1lvl btw same with Panzerfaust 60 and 100: germans should get it 1 or 2 lvl earlier than USSR

Cost of the gun (Reminder: it’s a wip image, values and costs not final)

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You mean at the store, where the gun (MN91/30 sniper) is 10k silver per one?

I think i know how this is going to end.

People who knows the game will just ditch the bolt actions completely. And opt to mainly go down the SMG route. Makes little to on sense to choose a bolt action over an automatic.

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Even though the equipment is similar, the location where it is unlocked is different
Examples include Panzerfaust 100 and A20 Havoc.
Panzerfaust 100 is located in the late tier 7 in Germany, but in the early tier 7 in the USSR.
Havok is in the early tier 7 of the American tree, while Soviet land lease is in the late tier 7. I wonder why the Soviet land lease has a difference even though the basic performance is lower than the original overall.