Levels in the renewed Enlisted

@107939337 @Barendd1974

What are you really after here? You’ve been shown, objectively, why it is a bad decision for Darkflow to sacrifice any sort of gameplay for “Historical accuracy” If you want a good shooter that pays close attention to Historical Accuracy there is Hell Let Loose. Play that. Clearly Darkflow cares more for growing the game than for appealing to a tiny demographic.

It’s just hubris at this point to keep arguing about it. I also have news for you, Historical Accuracy is largely a lie in even the most “accurate” games. The optempo, the way casualties are dealt with, the way you fight (the TTP’s) are all nothing like the real thing. It’s just an exercise in mental self-pleasuring to quibble about what tank was at normandy at what tank wasn’t.

No its not.

  • Between 2018 and 2019, they decided to change BattleBit’s concept and make gameplay more casual because there was a conflict between the developers’ desire to design a hardcore simulation shooter and the project’s low-poly graphics and marketing appeal. “Our game played like Squad but looked like Roblox. That was a terrible move,” SgtOkiDoki told Zukowski.

  • This move helped the devs attract more players and finally reach more than 100 concurrent players on the server — after four years of constantly improving the game and trying to find the right formula.

You do understand that battalion 1944 we’re speaking of here wasnt done by big studio

Like seriously

Well that makes sense, I wonder why DF havent gone to HA after all warhammer nerds and other niche players surely would come and pay for the game.

Like seriously what is this DF even doing ?!

How exactly will we obtain Squads with this new techtree?

Because i have purchased the Battlepass Tiger E from gold orders but dont have a squad to play it with, yet, and wont unlock it in time for the update.

Will tanks just be made interchangeable so i can play any tank with any squad? Or will i have to research the Tiger E in the techtree to get the squad for my Battlepass Tiger E?

In that case, which of the two squads that can hold the Tiger E (one from normandy and one from berlin) will be the one we get to research and play the tank with?

While I play well in squad, in HLL and PS, due to the small scale of clashes in mass battles and thousands of deaths, they do not improve the fact that these games are simulators of walking and searching.

And the whole discussion at this point turned from the creation of the future tech tree to arguing whether HA is better or gameplay that players know from other games where I don’t so much emphasize HA as realism.

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We focused so much on arguing with each other because some people do not have a substantive conversation, but only troll and force people to mindlessly litter the topic.

Another day no update for “Enlisted. Future Tech tree”.

I have already accepted the fact that the game will undergo a change. I’m not a fan of the MP3008 in Moscow or the VG1-5 in Tunisia, but well if that happens we won’t do anything about it.

Personally, I would assign the weapon to the map and as the tree grows with the next lvl where I would set the lvl chrnoligically in relation to entering the front or mass production.

Thus, players would start with the 1939 campaign and end with 1945.
And if it doesn’t fit the vision of the game, you should search libraries, archives, draw knowledge from the source and find such battles where only infantry supported by light equipment and equipped with bolt action rifles fought among themselves. And such battles would be perfect for BR 1.0-2.0.

The wolf is full and the sheep is whole.
Why focus only on the most famous operations and battles. The Second World War lasted 6 years and during these 6 years there were thousands of smaller skirmishes, hundreds of lesser-known battles, and as important as landing on one of the 6 beaches of Normandy or fighting for the capital of Germany.

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First solve would be to get rid of people like you and robihr and the rest of you, you add nothing. Your annoying and you can’t think for your own.
And for why you can’t understand the believable historical immersion for a FPS game based on historical WW2 is so dumb it’s retarded.
You’ve shown over and over how limited in ur box you are and ur amazing faith in a Battle Rating system is fantastic. I Play War Thunder since start, this game since start, And yes I play Warhammer, and yes I spend shitton of money on this game.
Get out of your dumbass box and try understand what we say. We only voice because we care about some integrity of hiostorical aspect of game, and we know with this new matchmaking wayy more is gonna go. And if don’t think they’ll stop. because the problem will not be solved with this Incredible! new MM, it will get worse, and they will loosen it even more, and loose more history affecionados.
You should try to come up with new and better ideas to improve on game. Too preserve historical representation and still increase players.
But you dumbasses are hell bent on that that is impossible for some reason.
That a WW2 FPS that keeps historical aspect won’t work, like really? what job do you have? who would hire you? how far have you accomplished anything? because too me after reading all you posts I wouldn’t hire you to pick up pigshit. because what happens if the pig shits outside the box?
probably your matrix breaks.
You either try to contribute and help and understand and come up with solutions, but enough of you guys bashing on the history aspect.
Is it so hard to believa some ppl like to have that historical aspect in this game? that is why most came here and don’t play some other game

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we get you want increased players, alive servers and fast queues, we want too.
But we also want historical aspect somewhat retained.
We telling you this new tech tree and matchmaking a la battle rating won’t solve jacksquat for game, and it will remove way too much of historical immersion.
we want to come up with better solutions.
All you guys do is just bash other opinions, without coming up with fck all.
Look I hear and understand your side of arguing, but I’m telling you the problem of game is not here.
It’s the game itself is not finished or branded enough to attract people.
It mix of gameplay and advertisement and packaging.
If ppl are attracted to game they will come.
But to remove, simplify and dillute only adds to watering down the game further.
half-assed solves to keep the boat barely floating.
you still not addressing the real issues, and sure as hell don’t overcome and make better

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woaw, amazing rational thinking im sure the game would be bestestest with only you and barendd.

Because as you said its retarded.

No, I said its a step in right direction.

Relevancy ?!

To keep it short, “Keep the game as shit as it is”
No thanks.

They will remain in custom games.

Yeah, overall balance outweights few warhammer nerds.

Care to elaborate ?

You mean like new matchmake that provides fair games ?

Yeah it is as its explained about 500 times.

There were none to start with except weapons names.

I doubt you could even afford to hire me.

No, bacon happens.

There were none to start with and im happy to sacrifice that for balanced games.

No, and you can enjoy that “shit” of yours in custom games.

Source ?

we can believe. just that enlisted is so far from any believable historical immersion.

  1. weapons and vehicles are inaccurate
  2. squads are inaccurate
  3. tactics are inaccurate
  4. number of soldiers(tickets) is inaccurate
  5. gun mechanics are inaccurate

so idk what is your believable historical immersion exactly.

i played WoWs and tiers (BR) were excellent there. your point is? to seal club newbies with end game weapons in the name of HA?

maybe when you start making sense we will understand.

impossible to do with current game. you would need to start removing loads of weapons and vehicles. you would need to heavily limit SA/SF/AR rifles. you would need to redesign gunplay mechanic.

yes. that reason is that there is no HA in this game anymore. so why bothering to necro something that has long passed away.

it will solve 30% of bots entering the game. if it only solves that i count this update as success.
it will solve dead campaigns.
it will solve seal clubbing newbies with end game weapons
it will solve end game meta, so you can finally use other weapons instead of AR and end game tank/plane

and i have yet to see better solution. and i have come up with couple of solutions for game and have proposed them numerous times. like tech tree, BR MM, soft veto map choice and have even proposed keeping guns/vehicles like they are currently in campaigns (even before they proposed this merge).

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Pretty much all you have suggested is to keep the game as it is in different sentences.
Either you want to lock the equipment to certain maps aka campaigns making entire merge technically pointless.
Sure there are weapons that appear in every campaign such as Mp40 that could travel across the campaigns in new matchmake.
But what about the end gear ?
Take the moscow for example, there alot of bot games that no one cares for and its god fk awfully balanced.
How is the moscow being balanced with loaned mp40’s from tunisia ? It isnt.

Entire idea of the merge is let people play with what ever they want and matchmake will throw them in suitable game regardless is it at moscow or tunisia. Where ever its needed.

“hOW abOUT we make MM so ThAT it WiLL locK equIPmentS to MaPS” Why the fk even merge at all then ?
Did you even think about your suggestion ?

But hey, you always can enjoy your super fun HA games in customs.

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Sure, but that doesn’t invalidate the criticism given.

Depends on implementation. I would argue that CBT was fun. Most people who want HA want that sort of fun back.

Well, it is one of the problems with the game, not the main problem.
There’s no incentive to pick either side, most people play their chosen sides (Axis or Allies) across multiple campaigns. You can find multiple people playing the Germans across multiple campaigns though, I’m sure they’d select multiple ones.

I mean, what is objectively wrong with reaching common ground in order to preserve the player base? The whole point of the update is to merge and artificially increase the player base no? Why is it so difficult to have some checks for weapons have a more hard setting (compared to the soft rule we know next to nothing about) that would preserve the entire literal player base? Is artificially increasing the player base, at expense of the literal player base, more important than both preserving and literally increasing the player base?

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I don’t know why you name dropped me here, but i’m curious, are we a part of the 10 visions for the game, or are we a part of the same vision? I don’t know how the latter would work since you said everyone had their own vision. Though if we’re both a part of the same vision within the 10 visions, does that mean that more than 10 people support HA? I don’t know how you rationalize all this, seems pretty confusing. Then again, there probably wasn’t enough basis when you make shit up.

Its quite irrelevant, since you are the minority.
10 ? 11 ? Or even 12 doesnt matter insignificant group that has chosen probably the most non historically accurated game you could think of and cries over it.

Yeah pliz kep game as is I like all my nerd warhammer friend pay plis plis.

I don’t know man, this post here says we have 84 people, that’s somewhat more than 10, 11, or 12. In fact, I would say it’s larger than the 79 people who actually liked the devs post.

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Oh woaw, likes on forum post.
Congrats you won, now your over 10 people minority.
Its like bigger minority now than people that wants my little ponies in the game.

I mean, it’s currently more than the 7 or so of you guys who consistently come and comment on any conversation involving HA. In my opinion, I believe 84 being over 7 would make you the minority.

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Oh shit, your right.
Well what can I say we’re minority now at forums so do as you please and make these forums as historically accurated as you wish.

What comes to game, well people usually dont whine about things they like so its kinda rational they aint here.
Idk why theres no more than 10 of you doing frequently this same shitposting all over again.
Considering theres such a massive group of you as “likes on forum post” proved.

cuz no more than 4 of you made offensive comments at the first place, and kept doing that no matter we tried to be nice or not. we were suggesting, and you are insluting.

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Im super sorry for your feelings, could you kindly point out where exactly we were offensive so we may in future avoid hurting delicate feelings of certain group ?

So nice of your group.

The irony here is that you havent actually suggested anything.
All of the “suggestions” made here, is exactly same suggestions made in past months in previous topics.
Every each “suggestion” has been explained to detail, why they aint working.

So no, there is no suggestions here. Just another shitposting topic spamming the same stuff all over again.
And generally being ultimately butthurt.