If you want Jumbo's armour nerf then need more bullet penetration like German tanks

Of course

It’s like an unbalanced bt 7 in Moscow

Hm, BT 7 unbalanced?

Don’t know why they skipped BT5. It should also be added.

The BT 7 has a speed and a better gun than all German tanks, except for the pz 4,but the pz 4 is not a hindrance to it.

There can add A 20, bt 2, too.

not just new player but german mains in general

But it can get killed easily. Same cant be said for Jumbo.

This has nothing to do with German mains, but with pure logic.

Jumbo’s got a shit gun

not shit, just questionable with AP

I don’t know,the pz 4 punches pretty badly,or crooked-armed people play at jumbo.

This is not entirely correct.

M3 gun is capable of dealing with any Panzer 4 and shoots faster. Only at some 500 meters it can’t penetrate front hull armor of the Pz4 but it can the turret. And that is with worse ammo, the M72:
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M61 is even better …

I mean look a this, it is clear side shot but no, the indicator on side armor is red because it has 76mm of armor (khm almost like Pz4 front armor), so lets try to aim at that pixel at the front armor:

So with everything said multiple times … Jumbo is not balanced counterpart to the Pz4H to anyone with few grams of brain. Period.

Yeah, some kind of bug.
I noticed it during the game but nothing happened so I left it be.

As I have noticed I was showing on video that his side was full red - not penetratable. Maybe watch video better, right?
About mg dot. A bit later I showed that you can also penetrate it in commander tower if MG dot isn’t available or in bad position.

About gun and it’s shells: we don’t know what characteristics devs used for all guns ingame, so there’s no point in discussing it. War Thunder and Enlisted are close to each other but they are still different games.

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So how the fuk is that balanced then?!? And you can blow up Pz4 even with HE shells from the side. I read it, you did not.
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WT dynamic Battle rating that changes if the vehicle over performs or under performs:

Pz4H has realistic battle rating of 4
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Jumbo has battle rating of 5.3
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These tanks should only meet only if low player count is present to BR rules…

Showing non-game characteristics is no use. And we don’t know most of ingame characteristics of tanks. Can you read, dude?

Non game characteristics?

Can you penetrate Pz4 from the front? Yes you can, or if you can not then it is a bug and nothing else. The gun is not performing as it should, its simple math.

I can read, I am not sure about you, because you ignore or skip everything I say that doesn’t suit you.

But the Pz IV J’s have high ground here, that evens out some of the sloped front on the Jumbo. You are not always able to get high ground on it. So i dont think those videos are a valid argument, to calling it balanced.

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So can you make few vids on penetration points of Pz. 4 H on Jumbo?
In my experience most times Jumbo can’t penetrate Pz. 4 H pozitioned in angle to him.

I skip most text bcs they are not related to Enlisted. They’re about War thunder. If you would try to read this third time, maybe you will understand finally.

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No problem, will try to make few vids on same ground.

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Have you maybe tried shooting at the turret which has 50mm armor? You know, you kill the gunner and commander and he is screwed? And probably destroy the turret drive.

Not related to Enlisted? How can you even state WT is not related to Enlisted. All the models are “borowed” from there and should perform the same. If they are not performing the same, then it’s a bug and nothing else.

And how is this statement not related to Enlisted.

Even regular Sherman has better armor than PZ4, better mobility, better turret traverse, browning on top. And as far as I know should reload faster because of more roomy turret.

And a stabilizer, which is currently not modeled.

And no, I will not waste my time trying to prove something that is obvious to almost everyone except you and few other lost causes. I can give you tons of facts but I don’t believe you will ever change your mind.

And after that you wait for someone to believe you? :slight_smile:
Okay, no problem. I won’t waste any of my time on you and your baseless statements.

i say that because it’s solid shot and there is a bug that prevents it from actually spalling while it’s HE is extremely good

Devs are totally keeping us in dark with this stuff, and this is bad.

I will try to find out which ammo did they use in time of Normandy.

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