First, I want to say I don’t agree with people who say Jumbo’s are inpenetrable. and If devs are going to nerf it more, the bullet penetration needs to be bigger, like german tanks.
since I have it, a lot of tanks where able to destroy my Jumbo. If I try to fight hand to hand with my infantry, demo charges blows my tank super easy, so I must stay behind my troops as a sniper with my tank.
-A Puma in long distance in 1 shoot killed 2 of my crew.
-Other Puma’s where fast enough to stay on my side without I can turn my turret fast enough and he broken my chains (he was really good driving)
-I found a pzIIIN super close, then started a front attack where I thought I was going to win (as people say in forums) he shoot 3 times, every time he shoot, he killed 1-2 crew mates and while my crew changes seat he shoot again killing 1-2 more. pzIII killed me in 3 shoots where I can’t do nothing just than look.
Really don’t see that tank as hard as people say, but if you want more nerf, at least it must have the possibility to kill german tanks the same way (bullet penetration is bigger on german tanks now)
well, i guess i am a very solid tank player
and i have both, the jumbo and the pz 4
it way easier to kill other tanks with the jumbo, then kill the jumbo with the pz4
if you stay out of the playable area (enimies gray are) you are undestroybale, because its so hard to run with demo charges out of map and dont die.
also the far distance between tanks and the low pen ammunition for the axies make it nearly impossible to blow up a jumbo from far away.
(ver sur mar invasion), i stood up the hill and try to shoot a jumbo at the beach, it was impossoble to kill him, because the distance were too far away. if i started to roll down to get closer he one shoot me
-ok, you told me I’m not experienced player? and you are a solid tanker… I will give you a tip as a non experienced tanker
-instead stay up the hill you should go left or right and point the respawn. you will see the EEUU tanks from the side and most of them are not aware you are there and you can hit first in his side, so if you are in a pz4 I’m sure you can 1 shoot most of the tanks.
-if instead stay up the hill, you go to your right side (where there is an MG nest) you have a lot of possibilities to kill any tank in the beach because you almost flank them. In that possition some tanks hurt my tank a lot of times. Now before go inside the beach I learned to look there because experienced players are waiting there.
You don’t have it in WT realistic and simulator battles so your argument is not completely valid.
One good tutorial would solve the problem of new players.
And, you can leave the indicator in practice mode, so you can practice where to shoot and how much the shell drops. Higher velocity guns should have advantage in tank to tank combat, but they currently don’t as you have magical indicator.
i meant with solid, that i am good player with tanks…
i think, you confuse ver sur mer with d-day map
right to the little tower over the beach, there is a little forest
also if you want to flank tanks, which spwan at the beach, you have to go down the beach nearly to the water, on the way to a flank point down the beach, you are an easy target to kill by infantry
the beach at ver sur mer are is so wide, so have to stay very far away from the middle, if you want to flank, so you are not able to support your own team
the only good spot to support your team at ver sur mer is near to the little tower above the beach, but there you are nearly front to front to a jumbo, if someone spawn a jumbo
and a front to front fight is nearly impossible to destroy a jumbo
if only i have half of the courage of people defending the jumbo with no actual valid points, at this point i will be somewhere else enjoying life.
instead, here i am watching at those threads and especially this logic.
i have nothing against @9889484 but i’ll just say he is not thinking in the first place. like many people unfortunately. not here to " target " him just because we have a different throught.
but far often i see this one alot and just… disappoint me.
i just unlocked the sherman, it’s actual fun to use it. therefore, sorry to say so, but if you are having trubles by killing german tanks with a jumbo… the problem is your, not of the tank pourlyperforming.
Biggest problem with most people is that they cant look more than one step ahead.
Example:
Devs - Realistic optics for tanks
Players - Tanks are impossible to use, revert back to old
Devs - Implement ability to control turret and gun from Commanders cupola (My idea )
Problem solved
Same thing is with Jumbo. If someone removed the indicator, Jumbo would probably be invulnerable. Not invulnerable but it would definitively be harder and that would show even more.
But we can’t remove the marker because apparently new players don’t have brain and cant learn.
about this, not everyone is ok with it.
so i wouldn’t called problem solved.
i’m not a huge fan of it as well.
like, i have neutral feelings about it, but i still can’t properly use my observation points, like, devs managed to introduce them from almost 1 year, and they are still ignored because they are very clunky, and slow when they could have simply made a free mouse looking ( which it has been asked from the very first moment of the alpha. and i made MULTIPLE thread about it. might have been deleted because apparently threads get deleted for no idea )
i can’t even hold the gun somewhere and have a look around. ( this one has been suggested as well from the alpha ).
and now, your priotiy when you hop on a tank it’s the commander. exept you are screwed because if your gunner is dead, it takes time to replace him, and you hop in the commander first. and the gunner second.
it was a great improvement for Jumbo, with zoomed optics it was impossible to play. Well, the only possible way to use it, was as an “sniper tank” and I don’t like to play a tank like this. I like to fight with my mates giving cover and clearing the way while they deffend me of enemy infantry.
I don’t have any problem with you too, and usually your posts are very good. But must say the same as you say. Those people who have problems against Jumbo, maybe they must watch a tutorial or something like this.
Some time ago, I did a tutorial in youtube to help my viewers how to kill Jumbo’s (2 shoots with a Puma) and all other EEUU tanks with a Puma, and now I’m going to do the second part of how to kill German tanks.
while I’m testing it I can say German tanks are hardest to kill than EEUU tanks.
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