Hungary and France subfactions MEGA suggestion!

Hello Bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers!

This suggestion heavily builds on my previous suggestion the “subfaction improvements”

find it here

subfaction improvements

And also a little bit on “APC and rider class upgrade”

find it here

APC and rider class upgrade

Introducing new nations to the game is a good way of substantially increasing the content available in the game, without adding weird prototype and failed trial weapons.
However new nations also take a good amount of work, they need their own voice lines which takes paid voice actors, researching equipment and uniforms is also time consuming.
Adding everything at once is out of the question, instead new additions should be introduced with each update.
Releasing the premium squads first, event squads, then adding the subfaction squads, tech tree/subtree weapons and vehicles.

If you have no idea what a subfaction subtree is, read this:

subtree
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France

European French soldiers need new voice actors.

Premium content

Can be sold as premium squads or given out as event rewards.

Mas40
Mas40
Suggested BR and role:
BR2 - premium guerrilla squad

The interesting thing about the rifle is that about 50 of them were produced and none of them reached the front before Germany’s grand victory over the allies in 1940.
The Wehrmacht inspected the rifles and the production plants and decided that the Wehrmacht didn’t need a semi-auto rifle so they locked away everything. The reliable and ammo conserving nature of bolt-action rifles suited the GPMG based squads doctrine much better though specialised squads such as pioneers, sturmpioneers, reconnaissance units that needed extra firepower did get semi-auto rifles later on after encountering the SVT-40.
Nothing happened to MAS-40 until 1944 when the French resistance “liberated” the factory.
Sadly the thugs ransacked everything from material to the rifles, they did more damage over a few hours than German occupation over 4 years.
Most of the rifles ended up on the black market and France was pressured by the Allies not to buy them back.
Because of the unfortunate turn of events, regular army units surely didn’t use these weapons, however the French resistance may have used them, this is why I believe that the Mas-40 should be equipped on a guerilla squad.

Ribeyrolles 1918
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Suggested BR and role:
BR4 - premium assault rifle squad, 1er Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins Commandos

A French assault rifle prototype from the period of the First world war, it was designed by Paul Ribeyrolles.
The Ribeyrolles fires 8x35mm intermediate cartridges in both full-auto and semi-auto.
The concept of this weapon was seriously ahead of its time, however the model itself suffered from numerous feeding issues that were uncorrectable with the limited tools available at the time which is why it was ultimately rejected.

Darne machine gun Infantry variant
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suggested br and role:
BR5 - premium machine gun squad, 13e DBLE

The Darne machine gun was a belt fed machine gun with a high rate of fire used by infantry and mounted on aircraft. The infantry version featured a pistol grip and rifle-type trigger below the receiver, wooden buttstock and a folding bipod.

Petter Mle 1939
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suggested br and role:
BR3 - premium paratrooper squad

Designed by Charles G. Petter, the Petter submachine gun, participated in the 1937 trials of the French army earning their interest. An order for 3000 submachine guns was placed however SACM declined the order as they were already at their production capacity limit. Only about 50 pre-production guns were made.
The Petter Mle features a foldable magazine similar to Danuvia SMG and removable buttstock.

Lorraine 38L
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suggested br and role:
BR2 - premium APC squad, 4th Mechanized Dragoon Regiment

The Voiture blindée de chasseurs portés 38L or VBCP 38L for short was a very unique unarmed French armoured personnel carrier. It was built on the Lorraine 37L chassis and could carry the commander and driver in the front, four riflemen in the rear hull carrying compartment and six riflemen in the trailer.

USSR
French Yak-3
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Suggested BR and role:
BR3 - event fighter squad, “Normandie-Niemen” group

De Gaulle, believing in the importance of French soldiers serving on all fronts of the war, decided to engage forces on the Eastern Front in 1942. De Gaulle ordered the creation of GC 3 on 1 September 1942, commanded by Pouliquen. Mechanics, pilots and hardware travelled by rail and air via Tehran to Baku. GC 3 became the fourth squadron of the 18th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment, its pilots flew in the battle of Kursk, East Prussia offensive and Siege of Königsberg.
In June 1945, Joseph Stalin decreed that combatants could return home with their arms.They were welcomed at Paris–Le Bourget Airport and their Yak-3s paraded down the Champs-Élysées.
The squadron flew 5200 sorties and shut down 273 enemy aircraft, in recognition for their efforts, they earned the “Niemen” honour name.

Event items (swords, engraved pistols, ect…)

Engraved M-1873 revolver

Saber Model 1845
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Tech tree additions

weapons

Ruby pistol


Tier I pistol (not related to BR)

Modèle 1892 revolver


Tier II pistol (not related to BR)

Modèle 1935 pistol


Tier II pistol (not related to BR)

Berthier rifle


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - bolt-action rifle, Allied tech tree after Enfield P14, Tier I.

Mas-36


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - bolt-action rifle, Allied tech tree after M1 carbine, Tier II.

Standard bolt-action rifle of the French army in WW2 chambered in 7.5x54mm.
The rifle is already in the game, available to European Axis as a BR2 tech tree weapon.
Supposedly it was only a transitional design and was planned to be replaced with the Mas-40, however the realities of war prevented this dream.

Lebel 1886 with VB rifle grenade launcher


Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - bolt action rifle with grenade launcher, French subtree, tier III.

The Viven-Bessiéres rifle grenade was developed for the Lebel 1886 rifle and saw most service during the first world war, however the weapon continued its service in the second world war as well.
The rifle is already in the game as a now unobtainable Volkssturm premium riflemen squad.

Pistolet Mitrailleur STA Mle1924
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Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - SMG, allied tech tree after M3 Grease gun, Tier I.

The First French submachine gun
Caliber : 9x19 mm
Magazine : 32 rounds magazines
Rate of fire : 380 rpm
V° : 360 m/s

Mas-38
MAS-38
Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - SMG, Allied tech tree Tier III.
France’s standard submachine gun, like most standard ww2 French weapons, there weren’t enough of them and struggled with slow production.
Less than 2000 were delivered to the French army before their surrender, Unlike Mas-40 the Mas-38´s production continued even under German occupation.

Mas-44
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Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - semi-auto rifle, French subtree Tier IV.

In 1944 thugs of the French resistance ransacked the Mas-40 factory which was a significant setback for French forces, machinery, material and blueprints were lost.
French designers redesigned the rifle based on their memory and created the MAS44 which had a 10 round magazine instead of 5 like the MAS40. However only a little over 1200 MAS44 were produced before the end of the war.

Chauchat


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - LMG, Allied tech tree Tier II, after Bren Mk.I.

The Chauchat is an old WW1 french LMG, it’s already in the game as a now unobtainable Soviet machine gun squad.

Hotchkiss 1922


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - LMG, French subtree Tier II.
It’s currently available to Japan as a Battle Pass gold weapon order but it should also be added to the French subtree.

FM24/29


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - LMG, French subtree Tier II.

It’s currently available to Western Allies as a Battle Pass gold weapon order but it should also be added to the French subtree. The gold order gun won’t lose all of its uniqueness because US and British squads will be able to keep using the BP FM24/29 while only French squads can use the FM24/29 added to the French subtree.

Brandt Mle 1935
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Suggested BR and place:
BR5 - allied tech tree Tier V.

F1 grenade (France)
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The F1 grande was France’s primary explosive weapon in both world wars, by the second world war the grenade was equipped with M1935 time-based fuse.

Vehicles

Rider vehicle

Laffly S15R
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - all terrain vehicle, allied tech tree foldered under WLA Tier II.

The Laffly S15R is an unarmed all terrain vehicle suited for transporting 6 personnel (5+1 driver actually) and towing guns.

APC

Renault AHN


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - APC, French subtree Tier II.

Tanks and AFVs

Renault R35


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - tank, French subtree Tier I.

The R35 was the most common French tank during the war.
A rather slow, weakly armed infantry tank with 1 man turret.

Hotchkiss H39
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Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - tank, allied tech foldered under Daimler Mk.II Tier I.

The Hotchkiss H39 was an improved and more produced variant of the H35 with slightly improved speed and armour protection.

Somua S35


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - tank, allied tech foldered under Daimler Mk.II Tier I.

Somua S35 was the most advanced French tank at the time of the battle of France, it was well armoured and armed for its time, theoretically it was untouchable for early panzers, however the poor tactics and terrible one man turret design made the tank a failure, German panzers could drive in circles around them.

Char B1
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - tank, French subtree Tier II.

The Char B1 was a French heavy breakthrough tank armed with a hull mounted 75mm howitzer and a turret mounted 47mm gun. In 1940 it was very well armoured which caused Germans real headaches, however the heavily overstressed commander operating the turret alone was usually too overwhelmed to effectively command the vehicle.

M4A3 Sherman (w76)

Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - tank, allied tech foldered under M4A2 (w76) Tier V.

M4A3 Shermans were generally reserved for US units, however researchers found that the US did supply French units that fought alongside them.

One man turreted tanks should get proper historically accurate debuffs.
It should be impossible to adjust the turret and give orders (drive the tank) while reloading.

Aircraft

Morane-Saulnier MS.406


Suggested BR and place:
BR 1 - fighter aircraft, Allied tech tree after F2-A3 Buffalo Tier I.

Dewoitine D.520


Suggested BR and place:
BR 2 - fighter aircraft, Allied tech tree Foldered under MS.406 Tier I.

Spitfire Mk.IX

Suggested BR and place:
BR 4 - fighter aircraft, Allied tech tree Foldered under AP4C Tier I.
Suspended arment: 1 x 250 lb AN-M57 bomb

Potez 631
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Suggested BR and place:
BR 1 - attacker aircraft, Allied tech tree Foldered under F2-A3 Buffalo Tier I.

Lioré et Olivier LeO 451
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Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - attacker aircraft, French subtree tier III.

Small additions to Axis

33rd Grenadier division units, both get French voice lines and French marking on their uniforms.
Mas-38 SMG for Axis tech tree as well, because more Mas-38s were produced under German occupation than pre-armistice.

markings

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French
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100 genuine French given names

Abel
Adrien
Aime
Albert
Alexandre
Alexis
Alfred
Alphonse
André
Ange
Antoine
Antonin
Armand
Arsene
Arthur
Auguste
Augustine
Baptiste
Bernard
Camille
Celestin
Charles
Claude
Claudius
Clément
Constant
Daniel
Denis
Dominique
Désiré
Edmond
Edouard
Elie
Emile
Emilien
Emmanuel
Ernest
Etienne
Eugène
Fernand
Firmin
Francis
Francisque
François
Frédéric
Félix
Gabriel
Gaston
Georges
Gilbert
Guillaume
Gustave
Guy
Gérard
Henri
Hippolyte
Hubert
Jacques
Jean
Jean-Baptiste
Jean-Marie
Joannes
Joseph
Jules
Julien
Justin
Laurent
Leonard
Leonce
Louis
Lucien
Léon
Marc
Marceau
Marcel
Marie
Marius
Martin
Maurice
Maxime
Michel
Nicolas
Noël
Octave
Olivier
Oscar
Pascal
Paul
Philippe
Pierre
Raoul
Raymond
René
Robert
Roger
Rémy
Theodore
Theophile
Victor
Vincent

100 genuine French cognames/family names

Abadie
Abreo
Achard
Aguillard
Alarie
Allard
Anouilh
Archambeau
Auclair
Badeaux
Bain
Barbeau
Barbier
Bardot
Bastarache
Baudelaire
Beaufoy
Bernard
Blanchet
Bonnet
Boucher
Cadieux
Cartier
Castillon
Cellier
Cerf
Chalamet
Chapdelaine
Chapelle
Chastain
Chevrolet
Corbin
Cotillard
Couture
Curie
D’aubert
Darroze
De la Cour
Debussy
Descartes
Descoteaux
Desjardins
Desrosiers
Dubois
Ducasse
Dumas
Dupont
Durand
D’aureville
Escoffier
Faucher
Fontaine
Gainsbourg
Garnier
Gauthier
Granger
Hardy
Hugo
Lambert
LaRue
Lavigne
Leclerc
Legrand
Lyon
Léglise
Marceau
Marseille
Martin
Matisse
Monet
Montagne
Moulin
Paradis
Pasteur
Pelletier
Perrault
Petit
Piaf
Picard
Pillet
Poirot
Richard
Rochefort
Rousseau
Satre
Savoy
Serrurier
Tautou
Thomas
Toussaint
Travers
Tremblay
Trottier
Truffaut
Tussaud
Vachon
Valjean
Valley
Vaux
Visage

Uniforms and decals

Since there are already French uniforms in the game I expect the devs to know what Free French army uniforms looked like so I will only suggest general additions.

I did not include pre-armistice uniforms, save those for the potential 1940 battle of France.

Only the French navy continued to wear their own French uniforms, most wore American and some British uniforms. Sometimes had French hats, helmets, pouches and other equipment mixed in as well.

Wool cap
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Officer kepi cap

Adrian helmet

Adrian with helmet cover
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US uniforms
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French and US soldiers sharing cigarettes
Premium uniforms

Foreign legion kepi

1935 pattern khaki beret

British commando uniforms for 1er Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins Commandos
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French resistance Mas-40 squad

It would be possible to make this squad unique with some female resistance fighters.

Insignia and decals

They are already in War Thunder so there would be no point for me to list them.
Same goes for both French and Hungarian tank camouflages.

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Divisions and army units

There are not enough Free French units to fill up all of the squads.
I had use many pre-Armistice units that served in 1940 even though they don’t have their campaign yet.
I attempted to write information about divisions with the same style the game does, that is why they are odd.

Premium squads

Mas-40
Unit: French resistance
Insignia: -
History: -

Ribeyrolles 1918 squad
Unit: 1er Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins Commandos - No. 10 (Inter-Allied) Commando
Insignia:

History: the battalion was formed in 1942 from the personnel of the Free French Navy.
The unit participated in the Dieppe raid and Operation Fahrenheit.
On 6th of June 1944 the unit landed at Sword Beach.

Darne MG squad
Unit: 13e DBLE - 1st Free French Infantry division
Insignia:

History: The unit was formed in March 1940. The brigade fought in Norway then rallied under the command of De Gaulle following the French armistice.
The brigade fought in the east african campaign and Syria–Lebanon campaign before being transferred to North African theatre. Following the battle of El-Alaimein the unit was incorporated into the 1st Free French division and pursued the retreating Axis forces to Tunisia.

Lorraine 38L squad
Unit: 4th Mechanized Dragoon Regiment - 1st light mechanized division
Insignia:

History: The regiment was formed in 1667 as a cavalry regiment. In 1935 it was redesignated as a mechanized unit.
In May 1940 the regiment was part of the 1st light mechanized division that engaged the Germans in Holland then retreated to France to occupy better defensive positions.

Petter Mle 1939 squad
Unit: 2nd Parachute Chasseur Regiment
Insignia:

History: The unit was formed as the 1st Air Infantry Battalion in July 1943 from the 1st Air Infantry Company and 2nd Air Infantry Company (1e C.I.A, 2e C.I.A) that fought in Crete and Tunisia. The unit was redesignated as 2nd Parachute Chasseur Regiment 2e RCP in April 1944. On the night of June 5th the regiment was deployed in Operation Overlord.

French Yak-3 squad
Unit: “Normandie-Niemen” group
Insignia:

History: The number 3 fighter group was created on the 1st September 1942 in Rayak, Lebanon, it took the name the “Normandie”.
The unit consisted of French personnel that flew with Soviet built aircraft on the eastern front.

Progression squads

Medic squad
Unit: 15th bataillon médical - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in May 1943 and took part in the liberation of France and push into Germany.

Assaulter squad II
Unit: 17th bataillon de chasseurs portés - 2nd armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1940 to defend France from a German invasion.

Assaulter squad III
Unit: 7th algerian tirailleurs regiment - 3rd algerian infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was in May 1943, from already existing units. In late 1943 the division disembarked in Italy to join the fight in the Italian campaign.

Assaulter squad IV
Unit: 1st infantry regiment - 1st infantry division
Insignia:

History: The 1st Infantry division was formed in 1800. The division fought in 1940 in the battle of France and was disbanded following the Armistice. It was reformed in February 1945. The division participated in the push into Germany under the command of the 1st French Army.

Engineer squad I
Unit: 13th pioneer company of 35th Infantry Regiment - 14th infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873 and fought in the Great war.
It was the best infantry division kept in reserve until in ide of May it joined the battle of France in active combat.

Engineer squad II
Unit: 1st Engineering Battalion - 1st Free French division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed by grouping existing Free French units in 1943.
The unit participated in the Tunisia campaign then in the Italian campaign. The division disembarked in Provence on 15 August 1944 to join the battle of Normandy.

Infantry squad I
Unit: 13e bataillon de chasseurs alpins (9e BCA) - 40th Infantry division
Insignia:

History: Formed May 1940 at Morain-Villiers from the 2nd Light Chasseurs Division. The unit fought at Somme in the battle of France.

Infantry squad II
Unit: 95th Infantry Regiment - 9th motorised division
Insignia:
History: The division was formed in 1873. The unit was in reserve until 1940 when it joined the Battle of France.

Infantry squad III
Unit: 9e bataillon de chasseurs alpins (9e BCA) - 40th Infantry division
Insignia:

History: Formed May 1940 at Morain-Villiers from the 2nd Light Chasseurs Division. The unit fought at Somme in the battle of France.

Sniper squad I
Unit: 15th alpine infantry regiment - 31st mountain infantry division
Insignia:

History: The unit was formed in 1873 and fought in the first world war. The division was mobilised in 1939 and kept in reserve until the battle of France.

Sniper squad II
Unit: 99th alpine infantry regiment - 28th mountain infantry division
Insignia:

History: the division was formed in 1880. The division was mobilised in 1939 and was deployed to northern France awaiting German attack.

Sniper squad III
Unit: 5th Infantry Regiment - 10th Infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873, fought in 1940 and was disbanded following the Armistice. It was reformed in October 1944 in the vicinity of Paris. The division has been fighting against the German army in the battle of Bulge since the start of Operation Nordwind.

Machine gunner squad I
Unit: 2nd Reconnaissance Battalion - 9th motorised division Unit:
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873. The unit was in reserve until 1940 when it joined the Battle of France.

Machine gunner squad II
Unit: 92nd motorised infantry regiment - 25th motorised infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873 as 25th infantry division and was reorganised into the 25th motorised infantry division in 1934.
In 1940 it was stationed in Lille in the battle of France.

Machine gunner squad III
Unit: 4th Tunisian Tirailleurs Regiment - 3rd Algerian Infantry Division
Insignia:

History: The division was in May 1943, from already existing units. In late 1943 the division disembarked in Italy to join the fight in the Italian campaign.

AT gunner squad I
Unit: 14th Divisional Anti-Tank Company of 152th Infantry Regiment - 14th infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873 and fought in the Great war.
It was the best infantry division kept in reserve until in ide of May it joined the battle of France in active combat.

AT gunner squad II
Unit: 110th infantry regiment - 1st infantry division
Insignia:

History: The 1st Infantry division was formed in 1800. The division fought in 1940 in the battle of France and was disbanded following the Armistice. It was reformed in February 1945. The division participated in the push into Germany under the command of the 1st French Army.

radio squad I
Unit: 100th infantry regiment - 51st infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1914 to fight in the Great war.
The division was mobilised in September 1939, its elements were deployed to the Belgian Luxembourg border. Since May the division has been fighting in the battle of France.

Radio squad II
Unit: 1st Signals Battalion - 1st Free French division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed by grouping existing Free French units in 1943.
The unit participated in the Tunisia campaign then in the Italian campaign. The division disembarked in Provence on 15 August 1944 to join the battle of Normandy.

Flamethrower squad I
Unit: 208th Infantry Regiment - 53rd light infantry division
Insignia:

History: In 1939 it was sent to Flanders protecting the left flank of the BEF.
In May 1940 it was pulled back to France to reorganise after the heavy losses suffered at the breakthrough at Sedan.

Flamethrower squad II
Unit: 46th Infantry Regiment - 10th Infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873, fought in 1940 and was disbanded following the Armistice. It was reformed in October 1944 in the vicinity of Paris. The division has been fighting against the German army in the battle of Bulge since the start of Operation Nordwind.

Mortar squad
Unit: 225th Artillery Regiment - 12th motorised infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873. On September 3rd 1939, the day of declaration of war, the division engaged German units in border clashes for a month, then pulled back. In May 1940 it was deployed to the Belgian border and got involved in heavy fighting. The remainder of the division has been fighting near Dunkirk in an attempt to cover the evacuation of British and other allied forces from the encirclement.

Guerrilla squad
Unit: -
Insignia: -
History: -

Rider squad
Unit: 3rd Reconnaissance Group - 12th motorised infantry division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in 1873.
On September 3rd 1939, the day of declaration of war, the division engaged German units in border clashes for a month, then pulled back. In May 1940 it was deployed to the Belgian border and got involved in heavy fighting. The remainder of the division has been fighting near Dunkirk in an attempt to cover the evacuation of British and other allied forces from the encirclement.

APC squad
Unit: 5th bataillon de chasseurs portés - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1940 to protect the nation from a German invasion.

Tank squad I
Unit: 19e bataillon de chars de combat - 4th armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed under Colonel De Gaulle on 15 May 1940 to be used as a counter attack force against German divisions in the battle of France.

Tank squad II
Unit: 5th Chasseurs d’Afrique regiment - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in May 1943 and took part in the liberation of France and push into Germany.

Tank squad III
Unit: 501e Régiment de Chars de Combat - 2nd armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in August 1943. The unit landed in Normandy two months after D-day and fought at the Falaise pocket. On August 25th 1944 the unit liberated Paris.

Fighter pilot squad I
Unit: GC II/3
Insignia:

History: The GC II/3 was created in October 1933. In 1939 and 1940 the group was attached to the ZOAA (Alpine Air Operations Zone).

Fighter pilot squad II
Unit: Fighter Group GC I/1
Insignia:

History: The fighter group was established after the Great war and its task was the protection of the French capital and surrounding area.
On the date of the outbreak of the German attack of May 10, 1940, the GC I / 1 belongs to the Fighter Group No. 21 of the ZOAN (North Air Operations Area).

Fighter pilot squad III
Unit: No. 341 Squadron/Groupe de Chasse n° 3/2 “Alsace”.
Insignia:

History: No. 341 Squadron was formed on 15 January 1943[2] at RAF Turnhouse, with personnel from the Free French Air Forces

Attacker pilot squad I
Unit: Group of Bombardment of Assault GBA I/54
Insignia:

History: On April 15, 1940, GBA I/54, together with GBA II/54, was attached to Group No. 18 of the 1st Air Division of NAFTA (Northern Air Operations Zone).

Attacker pilot squad II
Unit: Bomber Group GB I/12
Insignia:

History: On May 10, 1940, the GB I / 12 is attached to the Group No. 6 of the 1st Air Division of the ZOAN (North Air Operations Area).

Attacker pilot squad III
Unit: No. 347 Squadron/Groupe de Bombardement I/25 “Tunisie”
Insignia:

History: The squadron was formed at RAF Elvington on 20 June 1944 from GB I/25 ‘Tunisie’ airmen who had been based in the Middle East.

Guide of weapons and vehicles that were used by French forces for modders, HA nerds and larpers:
This list only includes equipment in game or suggested in this thread, resistance or other irregular forces are not included.

list here

Side arms:

Modèle 1892 revolver
Ruby pistol
Modèle 1935 pistol

Rifles:

Lebel 1886
Berthier rifle
Mas-36
Mas-44
Meunier A6
M1917 Enfield
M1 carbine
M1 Garand

SMGs and assault rifles:

Mas-38
Mle 1924
Pistolet Mitrailleur Mle1939 PETTER
Sten Mk.II
M3A1 Grease gun
Thompson M1928A1 and M1A1
Mp40
EMP-35

LMGs:

Chauchat
Hotchkiss 1922
FM24/29
BAR 1918
Madsen LMG

Miscellaneous:

Boys AT rifle
F1 grenade (france)
Brandt Mle 1935

Wheeled vehicles and APCs:

Renault AHN
Lorraine 38L

Tanks and AFVs:

Renault R35
Hotchkiss H39
Somua S35
Char B1
M3 Stuart
M24 Chaffee
Sherman M4A1
Sherman M4A2
Sherman M4A1 (w76)
Sherman M4A2 (w76)
Sherman M4A3 (105) and possibly more Sherman variants
M10 Wolverine/Achilles
Cruiser mk.VI Crusader A15

Aircraft:

MS.406
D.520
Potez 631
LeO 451
P-36
P-40
P-47
Spitfire
SBD Dauntless
Polikarpov PO-2
Yak-1
Yak-7
Yak-3
Yak-9

Potential France themed Battle Pass rewards:

Mas-40 with scope and 25 round FM24/29 magazine
BR4/5 sniper rifle

French M4A1 “Corse” of Free French 2nd armoured division

Further reading

(French Shermans)
French Special Forces - Axis History Forum

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The picture depicts Ferenc Orbán and his gunner Tibor Vörös claiming their double confirmed aerial victories over yak-9s. The Me-210 they flew belonged to 102/2 “Tigris” quickbomber squadron, on November 13th 1944 they performed ground attack missions against soviet supply columns, but their aircraft got separated from the rest of his unit and was attacked by nine bandits to no avail, the tiger won the day and returned to base.

Premium content

FÉG 33M rifle
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Mannlicher Infantry Rifles 33.M Hungarian Weapons
Suggested BR and role:
BR1 - premium riflemen squad.

This is the prototype of the 35M rifle, about 100-200 were made to test the new design and find any possible flaws before starting the mass production of the 35M.
It’s not much different from the 35M, but it’s far more classy.

MG43 LMG
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Suggested BR and role:
BR2 - event light machine gun squad

In 1943 Hungary decided to adopt the 7.92 Mauser to maximise the war effort.
They have purchased the licence of MG42 (and MG34?) however could not produce enough of them to re-equip the entire army with it so they began converting MG31 LMGs to 8mm Mauser, thus the MG43 was born. Unlike the MG31, it had a 30 round magazine instead of 25.

Danuvia 39M A

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Suggested BR and role:
BR4 - premium paratrooper squad

Known as Király 39M in the game, the A variant was specifically created for the needs of the paratroopers. Hungary found that jumping with long weapons can lead to injuries, they designed a foldable butt stock so their paratroopers could land combat ready.
The gun cannot be used with folded stock because the trigger mechanism is inaccessible.
European Axis already have the Krieghoff FG on BR5 so a new BR4 paratrooper squad would be far more interesting. To make sure that the squad isn’t pay to win, 39M A should have slower reload speed and fire rate than the tech tree 39M, making the 39M A very similar to the BR4 M21/28 and Type 2 SMG.

Király-Győrik 44M SMG


Suggested BR and role:
BR4 - submachine gun, premium assaulter squad tier IV.

In 1944 Pál Király és József Győrik designed a new submachine gun, today known as the Király-Győrik géppisztoly, it was a heavily simplified Danuvia 43M chambered in 9mm parabellum. Only a few of them have been made before the production ended.

43M Lehel (Á) APC
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Suggested BR and role:
BR2 - premium APC squad

Originally conceived as an armoured ambulance for recovering wounded tank crews.
It was built on the Toldi tank chassis, the Lehel had two versions, an armoured ambulance (S) which stands for Sebesült (injured) and an APC (Á) variant, the Á stands for Árkász (assault engineer).
At least 1 vehicle was built and 9 others were converted into Lehels however it was not accepted into mass production because the army staff decided that they could not divert resources from 40M Nimrod production.
The (Á) and (S) were very similar; the only difference was that the (Á) was armed with an MG31 but the vehicle could be converted into (S) in a few minutes.

44M Zrínyi I with 6 rocket launcher tubes for 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 rockets

Suggested BR and role:
BR4 - premium tank squad

Named after the Croatian-Hungarian national hero Zrínyi Miklós (known as Nikola IV Zrinski by our Croatian brothers in arms).
The 44M Zrínyi I tank destroyer was built on the Turán chassis, armed with the powerful 75mm 43M L/43 tank gun also mounted in the Turán III. With 75mm frontal armour it is more heavily armoured than the StuG F.
Instead of machine guns, Hungary mounted rockets instead as secondary armament.
It was theorised that the rockets could hit Soviet AT guns well beyond their effective range.

Event items (swords, engraved pistols, ect…)

Sadly, I don’t know about any engraved or decorated pistols that served in the Hungarian army, however there are other oddities for collectors.

Decorated Danuvia 43M


BR5 SMG
This is the same Király43M that is already in the game (unobtainable premium) but it’s decorated with traditional Hungarian flower motifs. While it isn’t a gold coated handgun, it’s still at least as unique and interesting, perfect for some events similar to the red Pps42 and Mp41(r).

Hungary had many swords because it was an important part of the culture and everyone with some degree of authority had to have a sword on his side even if it was only for show.


I picked out the 1904M cavalry sword for two reasons: Cavalry is the most traditional Hungarian unit class and it has a noticeably different appearance than the German and Italian sabres in game.

Tech tree additions

weapons

Fég 37M pistol


Tier II pistol (not related to BR)

The standard sidearm of the Hungarian army, a 7 round magazine fed pistol.
It’s very distinctive thanks to its pinky support.

FÉG 35M rifle


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - bolt-action rifle, Axis tech tree foldered under VZ.24.

The standard Hungarian rifle of WW2 chambered in 8x56mmR.
It uses the Mannlicher–Schönauer action, the exact same action as the Mannlicher 93M which was produced three decades earlier mostly for Romania in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
It should be very similar in stats to the Mannlicher 93M. Slightly higher rpm and more dispersion to simulate easier handling and accuracy loss of the shorter rifle.
The 35M should be BR1, it’s essentially the replacement for the 93M that is exclusive to Stalingrad players.
Side note: won´t this hurt the uniqueness of the 93M? maybe a little, but that is still more stylish and slightly different. It’s still a fairer compromise than adding it back to the tech tree.

Gewehr98/40
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - bolt-action rifle , Axis tech tree, foldered under the pre-war Kar98K.

Don’t be fooled by the name, this isn’t a German gun, it’s still a Hungarian FÉG rifle like the 35M, but produced for German soldiers under contract.
It’s not clear why it was not marked as a foreign gun, perhaps it was considered similar enough to the K98K or because it could accept the same rifle attachments as the K98K, either way this rifle saw widespread use with Axis troops in the Carpathian region.

FÉG 43M rifle with Schiessbecher
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Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - bolt action rifle with grenade launcher, Hungarian subtree tier III.

In 1943 Hungary decided to adopt the 7.92 Mauser to maximise the war effort.
For this purpose Hungary slightly redesigned the Gewehr 98/40 and adopted it as the 43M rifle.
The Gewehr 98/40 could accept the German Schiessbecher and so could the 43M because the barrel was not changed. To make the weapon unique, it should come with a grenade launcher attachment.

Danuvia 43M


Suggested BR and place:
BR5 - submachine-gun, Hungarian subtree tier V.
The Danuvia 43M is already in the game as the Király43M, equipped on a premium squad that can no longer be purchased. As someone who has bought the Király43M squad, I believe that it should be added to the Hungarian subtree with a bayonet.

MG31 LMG
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - light machine gun, Hungarian subtree tier II.

In 1931 Hungary had adopted the 8x56mmR and logically they also adopted a new LMG alongside it. The chosen machine gun was the MG30 which was modified for Hungary´s needs. The 30 round magazine was replaced with a more curved 25 round magazine and for situations when the bipod was not enough, the weapon was installable on tripods to function as a medium machine gun.
The Hungarian river fleet even used them as AA guns with 75 dual drum magazines which were copied from the MG15, sadly I was unable to find anything else on that unique modification.

42M Gronov
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Suggested BR and place:
BR5 - light machine gun, Axis tech tree after the MG15.
In 1942 Hungary had bought the licence for the MG42 (some sources also claim that the MG34 licence was also bought) and locally produced MG42 as 42M Grunov for their own troops, they also received MG42s and MG34s from Germany.
The manly Hungarian soldier appears to carry 2 100 or 1 200 round belt on himself for his machine gun, so now that I proved that Hungary used belt fed MG42. Add this gun as the 42M Grunov with a 100 round belt. No AA sights please.

Solothurn S-18/100

Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - semi-auto anti material rifle, Axis tech tree foldered under GrB-39, Tier II.

The Solothurn S-18/100 was a high tech powerful bulb-up anti-material rifle in which many militaries were interested. Germany, Hungary, Finland and Bulgaria made use of the weapon in the war and it was trialled by the USA, Italy, Japan and others nations.
In Hungary it was produced under licence as 36M 20mm Nehézpuska and was used in 38M Toldi I and 39M Csaba as well as on R75 motorcycle sidecars.

36/39M 8cm aknavető
3639MMortar
Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - Axis tech tree Tier IV.

Weapon Type Medium Mortar
Origin & Designer Hungary/DIMAVAG
Calibre 81.4mm
Elevation +40° to +88°
Traverse +6° to 130°
Round Weight 4.125 kg
Barrel Length 1.165mm
Combat Weight 85 kg
Practical Rate of Fire 18 r.p.m.
Maximum Rate of Fire 25 r.p.m.
Muzzle Velocity 174 m/s
Minimum Range 50m
Maximum Range 4.300m
Notes: The 36/39M was based on the Stokes/Brandt model and was a standard battalion and regimental level support weapon. It was widely used in infantry regiments.

36M Vécsey grenade
36M V
Standard Hungarian impact grenade

42M Vécsey grenade


Standard Hungarian delayed time fuse grenade

vehicles

Rider vehicle

R75 motorcycle with sidecar armed with Solothurn S-18/100
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - rider motorcycle, Axis tech tree foldered under R75 Tier II.
R75 motorcycles were operated by Hungary in two configurations, one with a machine gun and the other with a large semi-automatic Solothurn S-18/100 anti-material life mounted on the side car.

APC

38M Botond
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Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - truck, Hungarian subtree Tier II.

The 38M Botond is a 1.5 ton lorry used to ferry both cargo and personnel. The 6x4 configuration was quite unusual at the time.

Tanks and AFVs

Toldi IIA


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - light tank, Axis tech tree foldered under Semovente M41 75/32, Tier I.

between 1920 and 1938 Hungary´s army was restricted with the Trianon dictatum, the army size, modern weapons and production was heavily restricted thus when Europe was on the brink of war again, Hungary had zero experience with armoured vehicles so they quickly looked for the first neutral country willing to sell them a tank design, obviously they ended up with the Swedish Landsverk L-60 and they couldn’t have picked a worse tank.
The 38M Toldi I had thin armour (Germans called them paper tanks), weak main armament and worse reliability than T-34 and Tiger (P) combined.
Hungary had to spend considerable resources upgrading these tanks until they became good tanks.
The 42M Toldi IIA sports a much more powerful 40mm gun, slightly upgraded armour and many times improved reliability over the original Toldi I tank.
While these tanks were still hopelessly outmatched by T-34s they managed to inflict heavy losses on Soviets by exploiting terrain and hit and run tactics.

40M Turán I


Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - medium tank, Hungarian subtree, Tier I.

Hungary quickly found out that the Toldi I was beneath the expectations and those weren’t high to begin with so they quickly looked for a new tank.
They purchased the Czechoslovakian T-21 and made multiple upgrades based on German advice.
The Turán tank was Hungary’s main tank of the war and it received multiple upgrades throughout the conflict. Unlike the Toldi I the Turán series were reliable and performed much better overall.

41M Turán II


Suggested BR and place:
BR2 - medium tank, Hungarian subtree, Tier II.

In 1941 it was realised that a tank needs at least 75 mm calibre gun to destroy field guns so the 40mm gun was replaced with a 75mm gun.
The new tank was called 41M Turán II and since Hungary designated any tank with a 75mm or larger gun as a heavy tank, the Turán II became a “heavy tank”.

43M Turán III
Turán III tank - Hungarian Forces _ Gallery
Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - medium tank, Hungarian subtree, Tier III.

The Turán series even with the 75mm gun upgrade still struggled against the KV heavy tanks so a new much more powerful 75mm gun was mounted inside an upgraded Turán turret.
The vehicle was tested and pressed into service, but only one or two vehicles were built, it’s not clear why not all of the Turán I and II tanks were upgraded.
It’s possible that Zrínyi I was considered a cheaper and more effective alternative.

44M Zrínyi I
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Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - tank destroyer, Hungarian subtree, Tier III.

Built on the Turán chassis, armed with the powerful 75mm 43M L/43 tank gun also mounted in the Turán III.
Production was dropped in favour of the Zrínyi II because that was better at infantry support, it’s not clear why Hungary decided that it didn’t need a vehicle specialised in destroying enemy tanks, one theory is that Germany transferred enough Panzer IV, Panther and Tiger tanks for this purpose. The other theory is that most tanks faced by Hungarians were T-34s which still suffered from armour quality and easily broke from the powerful 105mm shells of the Zrínyi II making the 75mm gun unnecessary.
No more than 4 Zrínyi I tanks were built.

43M Zrinyí II


Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - SPG, Axis tech tree foldered under Panzer IV G, Tier III.

The vehicle was based on the widely successful StuG series. The Zrínyi II was also built on the Turán chassis but instead of 43M L/43, the 43 model mounted a 105mm howitzer gun for infantry support.
Unlike the 44M Zrínyi I, the Zrínyi II saw mass production with at least 72 of them built before war´s end.

Aircraft

Héjja II zuhanóbombázó
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Suggested BR and place:
BR1 - fighter aircraft, foldered under bf-109E7/U2 and Re.2000 Tier I.

The Héjja II zuhanóbombázó is a modified Italian Re.2000 fighter aircraft domestically produced with (Weiss Manfréd) 14kfs Mistral Major engine and 2 12,7 mm Gebauer machine guns. Zuhanóbombázó means dive-bomber, the Zuhanóbombázó Héjja II aircrafts were installed with a bomb rack for carrying 1 250kg or 1 500kg bomb.

Bf-109 F-4


Suggested BR and place:
BR3 - fighter aircraft, Axis tech tree foldered under bf-109 F-4/trop Tier III.

During the war the Royal Hungarian Air Force operated numerous bf-109s, a good portion of them were domestically produced.
The F-4 was the most common “Friedrich” variant operated by the RHAF.
It’s very similar to the tropical version already in game, so it should be made unique with a different suspended armament, 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs for more CAS support ability.

Bf-109 G-10/U4


Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - fighter aircraft, Hungarian subtree Tier IV.

The “Gustav” G10/U4 was one of the most successful fighter aircraft flown by Hungarian pilots, the U4 is unique with its 2 13.7mm MG131 and 1 108 30mm Motorkanone built in the nose to fire through the propeller hub. Instead of gun pods, this aircraft should carry a 250 kg bomb.

Fw-190 F-8
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Suggested BR and place:
BR5 - attacker aircraft, Axis tech tree foldered under Fw-190 D-12 Tier V.

Focke-wulfs were not domestically produced in Hungary however, they did receive a few squadrons worth of aircraft from Germany to help replace the out-dated WM-21s.
The F-8 variant was based on the Fw 190 A-8 that is already in game. The F-8 features a reinforced airframe to allow it to carry its payload of up to a 1,000 kg bomb.
Its armament should be a single SC500 bomb and two SC50 bombs.

Me-210 Ca-1
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Suggested BR and place:
BR4 - attacker aircraft, Axis tech tree after Fw-190 A-4 Tier III.

Me-210 was difficult to fly and was not very popular with German pilots, however Hungarian pilots quite liked it.
Hungary mass-produced the aircraft domestically and also received some from Germany.
The RHAF utilised the Me-210 as both bomber interceptor and ground attack aircraft.
Hungarian Me-210 Ca-1 was armed with 2x 20mm cannons and 2x 8mm MG while it had 2x remote controlled 13mm MG in the rear for defence, could carry 3 pairs of 15 cm rockets and 2 large bombs (2x SC500 or 2x SC250 bombs) or 8 small (SC50) bombs for ground attack.

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Uniforms

overview
branches overview



uniform changes during the war, notice the colour change.

note excellent drawings, though not perfect, that there is no evidence of Hungary producing such camo smock and 1943M winter padded uniforms were not deployed in 1942.

Pouches

Rifle pouch


Király 39M pouch
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magazine pouch for the 39.M and 39/A.M Danuvia submachine guns, it had a belt loop and a shoulder strap too. The pocket on the front held the magazine loader equipment which could load 10 rounds into the magazine at once. The ammo pouch held 6 magazines, that means a soldier had 240 rounds at hand 40 more in the submachine gun.

MG31 ammo pouch
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MG ammo belt
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MG tool pouch

36M Nehézpuska tool kit
36M Solothurn AT

40M map case and Pistol pouch

Binoculars pouch
binocular case

1935M bayonet case
1935 bayonet case (2)
1935 bayonet case (1)

Shovel pouch



no pouch here you just fold the thing and attach it to your belt.

Backpack
small bag 2
small bag 1
Note that grenades were stored inside the bag and no specialised pouches were made for holding grenades, with one exception.

Large backpack
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16M backsack
16M paratrooper only
It was used only by the paratroopers.

Marching kit
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Poor man’s grenade pouch

Grenade case

Grenade case (to the right) for 39/A Incendiary grenade (molotov) which can be seen to the left, the case can be worn attached to the belt.

Post 1943

Király 43M pouch
43.m+gpi.+tártáska
magazine pouch for the 43.M submachine guns. Since these submachine guns didn’t have a wooden stock they lost the holding space of the gun cleaning equipment, for this another pocket was attached to the magazine pouch.

StG44 pouch
In the last stages of the war, Hungarian soldiers were supplied with weapons and ammunition by Germany, among the received equipment were Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifles and pouches for their magazines.

Kit

flask
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radio
R1
R1 radio

1935 bayonet

Knife and bayonet for Király SMGs, 35M/43M rifle in one

Shovel

43M gyalogsági ásó aka infantry shovel

Head wear

38M helmet
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Painted 38M helmet with net

Though rust and time has consumed most of the paint, some colour variants are still visible. Green - brown - khaki colours like most other Hungarian camouflage, another nice detail is the “helmet bracket” useful for attaching the helmet to the backpack during march.

20M Bocskai field cap
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Opened flaps
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41M cap
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Mostly worn by mountain troops.

Post 1943 additions

44M Bocskai cap
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Despite being called 44M it was produced since 1943 and had the same openable flaps design as the 20M Bocskai field cap

Uniforms

Summer uniform
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1938M pattern Sátorlap
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A multi functional tent piece, raincoat and camouflage equipment.
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Every soldier had one and its patterns were based on the telo mimetico.
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The first batch of tent pieces were ordered from Italy and had Italian colours which were later adopted to Eastern-central European environment as the 38M pattern.
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Side note, they were used post war as well, this colour combination is post war, do NOT add this.

1938M camouflage pattern smock
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(with helmet and pants)

Leather vest


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Popular uniform that was used in all branches of the Royal Hungarian Army.

35M tank and motorcyclist uniform
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vest
Tank crews often wore it by tucking the long coat into their pants so it would not get in the way.

In 1942 tank crews received new uniforms.

42M tank crew uniform
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It was inspired by German tank crew uniforms, however instead of panzer black they had “smokey grey” colour

pilots
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Post 1943 additions

assault gun crews/overall
Zrínyi assault gun crews were not considered tank crews, they were considered artillery troops and wore overalls instead of tank crew uniforms and had artillery markings.
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1944M camouflage pattern smock and Sátorlap
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The difference between 38M and 44M patterns is that 38M has “hard” edges while 44M has smooth edges.

Used on vehicles and Sátorlap, It was also used on camouflage smocks but not all sources agree on this.
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Warm clothing

Long coat

Balaclava/scarf
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worn under helmet and caps in the winter

White parka

pilots
puma pilota

Post 1943 additions

1943M padded winter uniform

In 1943 new winter uniform sets were introduced, copying the German winter parkas. The set consisted of a padded jacket and trousers, both reversible, with plain white snow camo on one side, and a grey-green camo on the other side for urban and field combat. Rarely seen worn as a whole, as there was never enough around to equip everyone, thus handing out trousers to one soldier, while giving the jacket to another one became a routine.

1943M reversed
1943 paplankabát

SS uniforms and ominous Tunisia campaign uniforms

Tens of thousands of Hungarians and Hungarian Volksdeutsche served as conscripts as well as volunteers in various divisions of the SS.

Due to uniform shortages Hungarian Honvéd uniforms were worn alongside SS uniforms in both Hunyadi and Hungaria divisions.
SS uniforms are only optional for HA nuts, all Hungarian squads should have standard Hungarian uniforms by default, with Tunisia being the exception.

No official Hungarian army unit participated in the North African campaign and as such had no desert uniforms at all, however there were individuals, like László Almássy who served as Rommel´s guide in the desert as well as an Abwehr operative. He wore German uniforms.

Hungarian markings on German uniforms:
Arm shields in the Hungarian colours of red – white – green.
hunyadi_shield note: Raven is a Hunyadi symbol, you probably want to censor that.
Collar patches of the letter ‘H’
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Cap cockades of red – white – green instead of the German eagle.
On the helmet the German markings were replaced with Hungarian colours.
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Premium uniforms

Hungary did not have a large army and that is reflected in its uniforms that have significantly less variation than German or Soviet uniforms, because of that I did extensive research for non standard army equipment to still add something a little unique to premium squads.

Spruce tree partition
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A symbol of revisionism and unity among Hungarians, it means that the soldiers fights for Hungarians even outside of Hungary’s borders.

Pelisse

A rather unusual sight in the battle, the traditional Huszár officer uniform was standard non combat uniform for higher ranking personnel in the cavalry regiments of the Royal Hungarian army.

15M helmet with reinforced armour plate
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Royal Gendarmerie

Paratrooper


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Insignia and decals

Decal of Hungarian vehicles 1941-1943 (left) and Insignia of the Royal Hungarian Armed Forces (right)
Roundel of Hungarian vehicles 1941-1943 and insignia of Honvédség

Licence plates
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A very unique marking system, tanks had licence plates on them
Tank numbering was only adopted during the course of the war, around 1942.

Decal of Hungarian armed forces 1942-1945
Képernyőfelvétel (946)

Miscellaneous
Not much to say here, I just collected photos of tanks that had some sort of decal on them.



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tank decals
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Aircraft

Hungarian aircraft were plain, they only had the unit decal and numberings.
I’m not saying that there were no pin ups or slogans painted on one or two aircraft, but the majority did not have them.

I do have an example, the “Sheriff” which was flown by Lt István Horthy, son of Hungary´s regent Miklos Horthy. He died on August 20 1942 during his 25th mission due a combination of poorly executed manoeuvre and an aircraft modification he was not warned about. To this day most Hungarians believe the false myth that the Germans orchestrated his death due to his Britain friendly attitude.
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Aircraft insignia

Puma 101- fighter group

Dongó - 1/1. and 1/5. fighter squadrons
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Kőr Ász - 1/3. fighter squadron

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Divisions and army units

It’s important to note that only fighter squadrons had unit insignias and those weren’t official either. Only the Szent László had an official - while other units had unofficial - badges worn usually on the left side of the cap and it was prohibited to wear them in combat (except for Szent László)
This was a fairly late war invention, not all unit badges survived the war and not all units had badges so I did my best to collect as many as I could.

I attempted to write information about divisions with the same style the game does, that is why they are odd. Units are themed (Stalingrad, Ukraine 1944, Hungary, western front 1945)

The lower tier squads are usually early war themed, usually their description is only covered until Stalingrad. Late war squads are late war themed with multiple potential campaigns depending on the front they fought on.

Premium squads

FÉG 33M rifle squad
Unit: Royal Gendarmerie Battalion - Szent László division
Insignia:

History: The Szent László division was formed in October 1944 at the city of Pápa as an elite rapid deployment unit from the best available manpower Hungary had to offer. Since December of 1944 Elements of the division were deployed separately to the most critical areas of the front line in the battle for Hungary.

Danuvia 39M A squad
Unit: 1st paratrooper regiment - Szent László division
Insignia:

History: The regiment was formed in August 1944 from the first parachute to serve as the base of Hungary´s new elite division, The Szent László, an elite rapid deployment unit from the best available manpower Hungary had to offer. Since December of 1944 the first parachute regiment has been engaging Soviet and Romanian forces in the battle for Hungary.

43M LMG squad
Unit: 3rd motorised battalion - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The 3rd motorised battalion was formed in 1937 as part of the 1st mobile brigade which was redesignated as 1st motorised regiment in 1938. The regiment participated in the Yugoslavian campaign as well as the Operation Barbarossa with exceptional performance.
In 1942 the regiment alongside the 3rd motorised battalion were assigned to the 1st armoured division then transferred to the ad-hoc 1st armoured field division to fight the Soviets near Stalingrad.

Király-Győrik 44M SMG
Unit: 2nd cavalry brigade
Insignia:

History: The unit was formed in 1922 in Nyíregyháza.
The brigade participated in the Yugoslavian campaign and in 1941 it was sent east to join Operation Barbarossa under the command of the Rapid Corps.

43M Lehel (Á) APC squad
Unit: 1st Combat Engineer Battalion (mot) - 1st armoured division
Insignia:
note: an unidentified motorised battalion badge is used
History: The 1st combat engineer battalion was formed in 1937 as part of the 1st mobile brigade which was redesignated as 1st motorised regiment in 1938. The regiment participated in the Yugoslavian campaign as well as the Operation Barbarossa with exceptional performance.
In 1942 the regiment alongside the 1st Combat Engineer battalion were assigned to the 1st armoured division. Since September 1944 the unit has been engaging the Soviets in the vicinity of Budapest.

44M Zrínyi I with 6 rocket launcher tubes for 15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 rockets squad
Unit: 20th Assault gun battalion - Szent László division
Insignia:

History: The battalion was Raised in September 1944 from the 6th Assault Gun Training Battalion in the city of Eger. In October it was assigned to the Elite Szent László division.
Equipped with a mix of Hetzer and Zrínyi SPGs the battalion fought against the Soviets in the battle for Hungary.

Subfaction squads

Medic squad
Unit: 15th medical company - 2nd “József Nádor” light division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1941 using the elements of the 1st mixed brigade. The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign. In late 1941 the division was assigned to the 2nd Hungarian army to be sent east to support the 6th army of the Wehrmacht.

Assaulter squad II
Unit: 1st Armoured recon battalion - 1st motorised infantry regiment
Insignia:


History: The Brigade was formed in April 1937. The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign and in Operation Barbarossa with exceptional performance. In 1942 it was assigned to the 1st armoured division then reassigned to 1st armoured field division guarding the northern flank of the 6th army of the Wehrmacht at Stalingrad.

Assaulter squad III
Unit: 61st (Waffen-SS) Infantry Regiment - 25th (waffen) “Hunyadi” grenadier division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in April 1944. Elements of the division fought the Soviets at Neuhammer, the remainder advanced towards the western front.
Unlike most SS divisions, the Hungarian units swore allegiance to the Hungarian head of state and were under the command of the Hungarian Honved ministry.

Assaulter squad IV
Unit: 57th infantry regiment - 27th “Székely” division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in September of 1940 at Marosvásárhely. It was named “Székely” after the local Hungarian speaking ethnicity, it carried the legacy of the 38th Infantry division that fought in the great war. Since Romania´s unconditional surrender the division has been fighting in the battle for Hungary.

Engineer squad I
Unit: 4th Engineer Company (mot) - 1st Huszár Division
Insignia:
note: No known badge, 1st cavalry regiment badge is used instead.
History: The division was formed in October 1942 by merging 1st and 2nd cavalry regiments.
Since July 1944 the division has been fighting on the eastern front.

Engineer squad II
Unit: 2nd motorised regiment - 2nd armoured division
Insignia:

History: The Brigade was formed in February 1938.
The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign and in Operation Barbarossa with exceptional performance.
In December of 1941 it was incorporated into the 2nd armoured division and kept in reserve.
Since March of 1944 the unit has been actively fighting in Ukraine.

Infantry squad I
Unit: 2th Infantry regiment - 2nd “József Nádor” light division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1941 using the elements of the 1st mixed brigade. The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign. In late 1941 the division was assigned to the 2nd Hungarian army to be sent east to support the 6th army of the Wehrmacht.

Infantry squad II
Unit: 52nd Infantry Regiment - 6th “Nagy Lajos Király” division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program.
In 1942 The division was attached to the 2nd Hungarian army to fight on the eastern front.

Infantry squad III
Unit: 34th Infantry regiment - 108th light division
Insignia:
note that this is not an actual unit badge, but ehh its close enough.
History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program. In late 1941 the division was sent to the eastern front. Since June the division has been participating in Operation Case Blue.

Sniper squad I
Unit: 22th Border Guard Battalion - Székely command
Insignia:
no picture of 22rd, only numbering is different.
History: The Székely command was formed in October 1942 and was subordinate to IX Corps. In 1944 the Székely command was defending Hungary´s eastern most border in the battle for Hungary.

Sniper squad II
Unit: 23rd Border Guard Battalion - Székely command
Insignia:

History: The Székely command was formed in October 1942 and was subordinate to IX Corps. In 1944 the Székely command was defending Hungary´s eastern most border in the battle for Hungary.

Sniper squad III
Unit: 24th mountain border guard battalion - 9th border guard division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in November 1940 by grouping existing fortress companies, border guard and Székely militia battalions. As Hungary’s first line of defence the unit has been heroically holding the Árpád line against the combined Soviet-Romanian armies, best described as the Battle of Thermopylae of the 20th century.

Machine gunner squad I
Unit: 4/I machine gun company of 4th motorised battalion - 2nd Armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in October of 1941. Elements of the division and the 1st armoured division were sent to the Eastern front to participate in operation Case Blue.
Since March of 1944 the division has been actively fighting in Ukraine.

Machine gunner squad II
Unit: 52th Infantry regiment - 23rd light division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program.
In January 1943 the division was deployed to the Stalingrad area to reinforce the 2nd Hungarian army.

Machine gunner squad III
Unit: 32nd motorised machine-gun company of 32nd Mountain border guard battalion - 9th border guard brigade
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in November 1940 by grouping existing border guard, Székely militia battalions and fortress companies.
As Hungary’s first line of defence the unit has been heroically holding the Árpád line against the combined Soviet-Romanian armies, best described as the Battle of Thermopylae of the 20th century.

AT gunner squad I
Unit: 51st Infantry Regiment - 23rd Light Division
Insignia:
note: badge of AT companies is used.
History: History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program. In January 1943 the division was deployed to the Stalingrad area to reinforce the 2nd Hungarian army.

AT gunner squad II
Unit: 10th Infantry Regiment - 16th infantry division
Insignia:
note: badge of AT companies is used.
History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program. The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign. The division was kept in reserve until 1944 when it joined the battle for Hungary.

radio squad I
Unit: 6th signal company - 6th “Nagy Lajos Király” division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program.
In 1942 The division was attached to the 2nd Hungarian army to fight on the eastern front.

Radio squad II
Unit: 27th Signal Company - 27th “Székely” division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in September of 1940 at Marosvásárhely. It was named “Székely” after the local Hungarian speaking ethnicity, it carried the legacy of the 38th Infantry division that fought in the great war. Since Romania´s unconditional surrender the division has been fighting in the battle for Hungary.

Flamethrower squad I
Unit: 7th Infantry Regiment - 13th light division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in January 1939 as part of the Győri rearmament program. The unit participated in the Yugoslavian campaign. In September 1942 the division was deployed to the Stalingrad area to cover the northern flank of the 6th Army where it got involved in heavy fighting at the Don river.

Flamethrower squad II
Unit: 27th infantry regiment - 27th “Székely” division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in September of 1940 at Marosvásárhely. It was named “Székely” after the local Hungarian speaking ethnicity, it carried the legacy of the 38th Infantry division that fought in the great war. Since Romania´s unconditional surrender the division has been fighting in the battle for Hungary.

Mortar squad
Unit: - 1st Cavalry Artillery Battalion - 1st Huszár Division
Insignia:
note: BEM LOVAS TÜZÉREK is written on the badge
History: The division was formed in October 1942 by merging 1st and 2nd cavalry regiments.
Since July 1944 the division has been fighting on the eastern front.

Guerrilla squad
Unit: -
Insignia: -
History: - (no suitable unit/formation whatsoever)

Rider squad
Unit: 6th motorised battalion - 2nd armoured division
Insignia:
note: badge of motorcycle riders used.
History: The division was formed in October of 1941. Elements of the division and the 1st armoured division were sent to the Eastern front to participate in operation Case Blue.
Since March of 1944 the division has been actively fighting in Ukraine.

APC squad
Unit: 1st motorised battalion - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in November of 1942, it was used as a replacement and training unit until mid 1944, since September 1944 the division has been engaging the Soviets in the vicinity of Budapest.

Tank squad I
Unit: 3rd tank regiment - 2nd armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in October of 1941. Elements of the division and the 1st armoured division were sent to the Eastern front to participate in operation Case Blue.
Since March of 1944 the division has been actively fighting in Ukraine.

Tank squad II
Unit: 1st tank regiment József Nádor - 1st armoured division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in November of 1942, it was used as a replacement and training unit until mid 1944, since September 1944 the division has been engaging the Soviets in the vicinity of Budapest.

Tank squad III
Unit: 26th (Waffen-SS) panzer battalion - 26th (waffen) “Hungaria” grenadier division
Insignia:

History: The division was formed in November of 1944. Elements of the division fought the Soviets at Neuhammer, the remainder advanced towards the western front.
Unlike most SS divisions, the Hungarian units swore allegiance to the Hungarian head of state and were under the command of the Hungarian Honved ministry.

Fighter pilot squad I
Unit: 101/8 “Ricsi” fighter squadron - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:
IMG_20241130_105010_edit_5601173831033859
History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

Fighter pilot squad II
Unit: 1/5 “Dongó” fighter squadron - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:
15 vadászszázad dongó
History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

Fighter pilot squad III
Unit: 101/1 “Puma” home defence squadron - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:


History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

Attacker pilot squad I
Unit: 2/5 “Halál” bomber squadron - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:
2-5 bombázó század Halál
History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

Attacker pilot squad II
Unit: 4/1 “Isten nyíla” bomber squad - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:
A 3-1-es később 4-1-es bombázó század jelvénye Isten nyila
History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

Attacker pilot squad III
Unit: 102/2 “Tigris” quickbomber squadron - Fliegerführer 102 (ungarisch)
Insignia:


History: The unit was created by grouping all Hungarian wings, it was under the command of the 4th Luftflotte.

100 genuine Hungarian given names

Aladár
András
Antal
Atilla
Attila
Balázs
Barabás
Barnabás
Bence
Bendegúz
Benedek
Bertalan
Botond
Bálint
Bánk
Béla
Csaba
Csanád
Csombor
Dezső
Domokos
Dániel
Erik
Ernő
Ervin
Ferenc
Gergely
Gergő
Gyula
György
Gábor
Géza
Hunor
Ignác
Imre
István
Jakab
Jenő
János
József
Kende
Koppány
Kornél
Kristóf
Kálmán
Kármán
Károly
Lajos
Lehel
Levente
Lukács
László
Lázár
Lőrinc
Máté
Mihály
Miklós
Miksa
Mátyás
Nimród
Norbert
Nándor
Olivér
Oszkár
Ottó
Petúr
Pál
Péter
Regő
Rihárd
Roland
Rudolf
Róbert
Soma
Szabolcs
Szigfrid
Szilárd
Sámuel
Sándor
Tamás
Tibor
Tivadar
Ugor
Ulászló
Vajk
Viktor
Vilmos
Vince
Zalán
Zoltán
Zsigmond
Zsolt
Zétény
Ádám
Ágoston
Ákos
Álmos
Árpád
Ödön
Örs

100 genuine Hungarian cognames/family names

Alföldi
Aszalós
Asztalos
Bakos
Balga
Benczédi
Benke
Berecky
Biró
Bodzay
Budai
Bácskai
Báthory
Bátor
Békési
Csapó
Csíki
Csukás
Csák
Deák
Dibáczy
Dobó
Dömötör
Dürvanger
Erős
Faragó
Farkas
Fazekas
Fehér
Fekete
Fickó
Gyulai
Gáll
Göndör
Görbe
Görgei
Hajdú
Halmos
Halász
Hegedüs
Hidasi
Horn
Horváth
Hunyadvári
Juhász
Kaincz
Kassai
Kelemen
Kerekes
Kertész
Kisfaludy
Kiss
Kocsis
Kovács
Kőszegi
Lengyel
Losonczi
Lovász
Lászlófi
Marosi
Meszlényi
Molnár
Monori
Mártonfalvi
Mészáros
Nagy
Németh
Papp
Puskás
Pálfi
Rácz
Rákosfalvi
Róka
Sas
Sebes
Selmeczi
Somogyi
Szabó
Szepesi
Szigeti
Szili
Szilágyi
Székely
Szűcs
Sárosi
Takács
Tusay
Tóth
Vadász
Valkay
Varga
Vas
Veress
Verestói
Vitézy
Vágó
Vándor
Vásárhelyi
Zrínyi
Árva

Guide of weapons and vehicles that were used by Hungarians for modders, HA nerds and larpers:
This list only includes equipment in game or suggested in this thread

list here

Side arms:

FÉG 37M
Walther P38

Rifles:

FÉG 35M rifle
FÉG 43M rifle
Mannlicher 1895 (known as Mannlicher 31M rifle in Hungarian service)
Gewehr 98/40
Karabiner 98 Kurz
SVT-40 (captured)

SMGs and assault rifles:

Mp34(ö)
Mp35
Mp40
Király 39M
Király 43M
Király-Győrik 44M
StG44
Ppsh41 (captured)

LMGs:

Madsen LMG
MG31 and MG43
MG34 (known as 34M Strange)
MG42 (licence produced as 42M Grunov)
DP-27 (captured)

Miscellaneous:

Solothurn S-18/100
Panzerfaust 60 and 100
50mm GrW 36 (known as 39M aknavető)
36/39M 8cm aknavető
Lanciafiamme Modello 35
36M Vécsey
42M Vécsey

Wheeled vehicles and APCs:

R75
38M Botond
Sdkfz.251
43M Lehel

Tanks and AFVs:

Toldi IIA
40M Turán I
41M Turán II
43M Turán III
44M Zrinyí I
43M Zrinyí II
Marder II
Panzer 38(t)
Hetzer
StuG III
Panzer III M and N
Panzer IV F, G and H
Panzer V Panther A and G
Panzer VI Tiger I E
Hotchkiss H39
Somua S35
T-26
BT-7
T-28
T-34 (all var.)
M3 Stuart

Aircraft:

Re2000/Héja I
Héja II
Bf-109 D, E, F, G and possibly K (confirmed models: D-1, E-3, E-4, F-2, F-4, G-2, G-6, G-10, G-14)
Bf-110
Me-210
Me-210 (40mm)
Me-410
Fw-190 F-8
Fw-189 Uhu
Ju-87 Stuka
Ju-88
Ju-52

Potential Hungary themed Battle Pass rewards

Danuvia 39/42M
SMG BR5

I absolutely love this picture! I never expected to see a picture of a Danuvia 39/42M yet alone in combat.
During the war the demand for 9x25mm ammunition was very high and the only country still producing this type of rounds - Hungary - realised that getting the necessary materials will be difficult so they designed a new cheaper ammunition which only minimally affected performance but was much more sustainable to produce, however it caused feeding issues when fired from 39Ms so the feeding mechanism was redesigned, which effectively fixed the fault, however it was not mass produced, the design was incorporated into the 43M and mass produced.
A little fun fact, after the adoption of the 43M, 39M magazines were painted with two orange stripes to help differentiate the non interchangeable magazines.

rmRvBH5
Rare photo of a Pz.Kpfw. V “Panther” in Hungarian service. This Panther was one of the first five which was given to the Hungarian 2nd Armored Division on September 1, 1944, Transylvania.

further reading

https://mek.oszk.hu/20600/20647/20647.pdf
http://niehorster.org/015_hungary/book/Royal_Hungarian_Army_1920-1945.pdf
Skull, Wings, and Canopy – The brief history of the Hungarian Airborne Forces of WWII. (Part III.) - Felderítők Blogja
Order of Battle of the Royal Hungarian Army's Commands, Formations, and Units

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Sorry I couldnt post my entire suggestion at once due to limit.

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Nice,looks like a bunch of cool stuff we could see!

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I don’t know if I missed it in your suggestion but what will happen to sub factions map pools. For example will Italy be restricted to Tunisia or will they be able to fight anywhere and only use their unique uniform in their respective campaign?

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And that’s not even going into the different variants of the Berthier rifle that could be added. The French tech tree would have a good pool of selection for rifles if the devs would add them.

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Since premium units, weapons and vehicles appear on any map regardless, I personally don’t find it a huge issue.
PPS-43/VG2 appearing in 1941 is in my opinion a bigger deviation than Hungarian or Italian soldiers.
However I do know that not everyone shares my opinions so I also suggested SS and Heer uniforms as well for Italians and Hungarians for people that are allergic to “Italians in Moscow” and similar things.

Also it would be possible to make a setting that hides soldiers of nationalies that didn’t historically participate in the battle.

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Also, special thanks to @CharlesLeChauve for his help.

Valkay, thank you for your post. This is… wow. I am blown away by the amount of work here. Please know we do appreciate it.

I assume you are Hungarian yourself?

As far as the actual content here I support everything. Its all really cool and Id love to see both added to the game.

I really respect how youve got 100 authentic French and Hungarian names, this has been remarked on before how some names here are ChatGPT generated and look terrible, especially for non-English language ones.

Yeah, keep up the great work mate, really awesome. :slight_smile:

The only thing Ill say is you may have seen my post ages ago about a new faction comprised of France-Poland-Belgium-Netherlands.

What are your thoughts on that?

One of the many reasons Ive been asking for the USA and UK-Commonwealth to be split into two trees was so we could fit more Allied nations. Likewise Germany and Italy split.

Because at the moment Im a little concerned about squeezing USA, UK, all the Commonwealth countries, France, and then maybe Poland, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Greece into the one tree seems silly to me.

If we just have France then I support your idea of a sub tree. (and note I do think Hungary as a sub tree in either Axis tree or a separate Italy tree like in War Thunder makes the most sense).

The other thing was with my own concept of a F-P-B-NE tree they would only fight in appropriate theatres and the uniforms would change depending on the map eg if fighting in the Pacific all soldiers would be Dutch.

Now I like your idea that with Hungary for example they would have the option of regular German uniforms for those that dont want Hungarians fighting in Tunisia or whatever.

I also like the idea that French weapons would be limited to French squads for example. So I guess my question is for the Pacific for example with your idea would we just deal with the fact theres French soldiers running around Munda or their uniforms swap to USA/UK or something?

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Man a lot of stuff could have been added to French and even Hungarian subfaction here but all in all good I mean if its for a subfaction you dont need to fill every gap

And DF better add those Hungarian paratroopers

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Thank you so much :heart:
I have been researching for months to put this suggestion together.

Indeed I am.
I wish I could have done a better job at French uniforms, however not having access to French sources makes the research much more painful.

But one day perhaps I can help create an all encompassing battle of France suggestion.

If so much content gets added that a split becomes necessary than I would prefer to split by theatres of war:
Eastern Front
Western Front
Pacific Front

With each Front having one Axis and one Allies factions. The catch is that not all equipment would be shared so German soldiers on the western front could be armed fundamentally differently than on the eastern front.

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I know, but it would have been impossible to include everything so I focused on creating a base for the subfactions that easily can be expanded.

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Cool. I might DM with questions about Hungary haha.

French uniforms are okay.
Below is a picture from the 2022 film ‘Narvik’ about the 1940 battle. This shows French winter uniforms which could be used if they add Narvik as a battle but also for French soldiers in the Ardennes/Battle of the Bulge maps currently in game.
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640px-The_French_Army_in_the_Norwegian_Campaign,_1940_HU91803
I believe this black and white one is original.

Hmmm. Im okay with theatres however many players would probably then question what was the point of the merge.
Personally I really wish I could play as the Germans but exclude all Eastern Front maps, I hate those.

If we had separate US and UK-Commonwealth trees it would be nice being able to queue together in some cases eg. Normandy, Tunisia, but separately in others like 1940 France/Low Countries/Norway, or Australians in New Guinea, British in Burma, Americans in the Philippines etc.

In principle France would only fight in early war Europe and late war Europe + Vichy French in Syria-Lebanon (against Australians). However if France-Poland-Belgium-Netherlands were together that faction could be queued with the USA and/or UK in some parts of Europe/desert war, as the Dutch alongside Australia New Zealand and USA in the Pacific, as the Polish alongside USSR etc.

Ultimately I guess it doesnt matter as long as we get French squads with French weapons, and also some Minor Axis Nations under Axis, be that Hungary, Romania, Finland, or a combination of those.

French squads would mean we could finally fight as Free French in Normandy and would also allow the 1940 Battle for France to be added which would be really good (Dunkirk could replace ‘reverse D Day’ map)

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This is a beautifully put together post and I really hope that we might see a bunch of what you’ve suggested here put forth into the game at some point.

Once more, absolutely incredible work !

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Subnations? yes yes yes

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If a modder need help or something, I canhelp you.

I’m French and I served into the Mountain troop (Maybe you know Narvik or La bataille des Alpes against the Italian).

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