25 percent, I mean accuracy when you walk and shoot.
but mg34 shoot faster it has to have a higher recoil otherwise it’s too cheating and m1919 it can’t be used in close range because when you hold it you walk very slow
I don’t know if the movement speed with M1919 is slower than with Mg34. Because the bar gun I play regularly weighs 10kg and the mg34 is the same weight, but the m1919 weighs 14kg. When I run on the battlefield, it’s noticeably slower.
You try to go into the game and see if m1919a6 and other lmg when holding the movement speed will be the same or not.
If you will also confirm that it is equal
When walking and shooting, the mg has one and a half times the penalty to accuracy.
I’m sick of this conversation. You have the best machine gun and whine that it is weak, while you think the mp43 is something awful, although even the old version had flaws relative to the Thompson.
The m1919 has a rate of fire of 550-600 when improved. It’s like the mp43, only you’re killing the enemy with every bullet, so you don’t need more. You don’t need 900 like the mg, it gets in the way as you waste extra ammo.
If the mp43 has 13.2 damage, believe me, I won’t ask for more rate of fire.
Mr Allied planes are fair strikes again
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Again, I’m really tired of you. Can you look at something other than the damage and rate of fire of this gun? And you don’t listen and complain about cheating when it cheats. It’s actually a defensive gun that can’t be attacked effectively. I tried carrying the MG42, it’s very light, but I can’t shoot because it doesn’t have ammo.
As for the mp43, I don’t think it’s fair to put different types of guns. at the same level But she insisted on not cheating like before. No matter how many times I explain
Obviously you like it and don’t want developers to do anything about it. Because it shoots well, almost no disadvantage at all.
different
The m1919a6 has many disadvantages. But you think it’s cheating in spite of people being able to play with this gun. You have to be very close to attack, otherwise the bullets might not hit and the gun will aim slowly. It’s not an accurate shot. But it’s good to wear sand legs. On the plus side, Mp43 is unconditional at all. Easy to shoot, easy to play.
Also, the m1919a6 and mg34 are the same type of gun. Their stats are very similar. The amount of ammunition is slightly different. How can a person cheat? Since the other side has very similar guns, unlike the mp43 and Thomson which are different types of guns. :{
- Use it and it helps very little. Your chances of winning 1-1 with other guns are slim if you’re at medium and long range. If you don’t crouch, it’s hard to win.
The close-range shooting of this gun is terrible. - The accuracy of this gun is very low when walking and shooting. Only when used with the sand leg will it shoot accurately.
I used the speed aiming ability with the bar gun.
It’s much more worth it. It became an American assult rifle.
oh it’s mister “allies always op”
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Judging by your screenshots, you don’t have mg42. I just compared a run with a mg34 with 75 rounds and a mg42. The former weighs 11.4kg, the latter weighs 10. Can you guess for yourself? There is no difference. Ran the distance of two telephone poles.
I think the machine guns have exactly the same penalty. Based on the measurements, it’s about 10% compared to a conventional firearm. There’s no difference between an 11.4kg gun and a 10kg. So if you want to prove something about the m1919, shoot the video yourself.
Because the U.S. didn’t have AR? The game has simplified the weapons so that the difference between the two classes is almost imperceptible because of the specifics of combat.
AR is better than SMG for combat, time has shown that. So yes, the MP43 should be a good weapon and no other way.
Maybe it’s worth ruining the lauded American planes just because the Axis didn’t have a plane with 10 HVAR missiles and a 250kg bomb to go with it? How can you compare that to the Axis planes? However, they are here because the sides have different pluses.
The dispersion is 0.4, with the MP43 it is 0.7.
Damage 13.2, MP43 8.8
Shot rate is identical.
100 rounds vs. 30 for the MP43
13/15 recoil vs. 26/7 - that’s parity.
You pay for one-shot kill and 100 rounds only penalty to movement speed and, ridiculously less penalty than the mg42 when shooting on the move think about it. the m1919 has one and a half times less penalty.
Are you surely trying to claim that the m1919 only has disadvantages?
Dispersion: better than the m1919 by 42%.
Recoil: 25% better than the m1919, plus a lower rate of fire, that advantage is even greater.
Magazine: 25% better than m1919
Reload speed: the same
Range on the move: better on the m1919 by 50%.
Bullet flight speed: better than m1919 by 10%.
Total Ammo: 25% better on the m1919
Rate of fire: m1919: 550-600, mg34: 800-880. Here you state that mg34 has an advantage, but when EVERY bullet you fire kills your enemy, you don’t need to fire too many shots, it leads to unnecessary waste of ammo and increased recoil.
Show me the numbers that are better with the mg34
In the shooting range on my game It’s a bug that can’t be reloaded. Do you misunderstand?
Do you know how to kill multiple enemies quickly? if you don’t know what to say
These two guns are good. The m1919a6 was the first American LMG to feature a high-loading magazine.
The German side has a mg34 mg42 with a magazine of 50 rounds and is more agile and still has 75 mg34 rounds. What? Sure, America has a bar. But with only 20 shells, which team do you think will have a greater advantage if you’re facing multiple enemies?
And if you have to kill enemies in a short period of time, which one is better, mg34 or m1919a6?
Same damage, slightly different projectiles, MG34 can be played both offensively and defensively.
But the m1919a6 can only play on the defensive line. can’t go on And if you see someone using this gun I’m sorry for this gun. Because I’m sure game developers don’t make good guns in this genre of combat. that kills a lot because of its skill No matter what gun you carry, it plays well. The m1919a6 only has a lot of balls. I want you to try before you decide. not because of the gun But players who play this gun, if they want to put a gun in front of them must be very good. because it is not suitable for the front line
But the MG34 can play both offensively and defensively. But the defensive line might not be as good as the m1919a6, but the striker is easier to use.
How many times have you told Don’t just look at the stats. You never use this gun in battle. You just showed me information from the internet. I find it ridiculous to look at gun stats without even trying it yourself.
what i will say is I think the main point is that you have to play. Not just looking at statistics and referees. There are other factors Much more you have to consider and analyze how good it is and how bad it is.
and the point of Thomson and mp43
Hmm, simple idea, let Thomson fight 10 mp43 laps at close range.
Of course there are wins and losses. maybe the same Because close range damage is enough, Thomson fires faster, but damage is more important.
Then you try to have Thomson fight the mp43 within 200 meters.
What percentage do you think Thomson wins if both shooters are equally skilled?
Thomson’s projectile slower and ranged damage decreased.
Thomson’s chances of winning an mp43 in the mid and long range could be less if both are equally skilled.
I’m just saying you should understand Don’t compare here and there. because if it is a small matter Haven’t thought about balance yet. How can the game be fun?
but in the end I think you will compare these two guns with your tank and plane. Because I think you don’t understand what I mean. and you believe your way
and the issue that America didn’t have AR in World War 2
i wonder
If America does not have Why did they allow Germany to have Why not cut this gun out of the game or change it to smg instead of nerfing or modifying?
But I think if I say this, you won’t listen. You can show me the history of the fact that in Europe, Germany has AR guns used in real war.
I really ask, is this game real? Because America uses British guns. And I’ve never watched documentaries, movies, or pictures off the internet with this kind of gun exchange. American paratroopers use sten. American infantry use Lee enfield with bren, the game is unrealistic. Don’t have to think of any reason to get this mp43 gun out of the weapon. Most cheated because he really cheated From playing this gun, I don’t see any disadvantages, less ejection, strong shooting, good aiming point, good rate of fire, can shoot at any distance.
And I don’t want to ask you anything.
For the simple reason that smg and ar are at the same level. But using each other, one team has sMg, the other has AR, is that fair? You still can’t give an answer.
Since you’re siding with mp43, you’re not looking at the game balance. But you will see that this mp43 is good because it is your favorite gun. So you choose to protect it.
I didn’t check the vocabulary because I’m too lazy to talk to you and you don’t understand what I’m going to say.
You don’t need to understand I’m tired of answering you I don’t even know if you’ve read it.
Judging by the screenshots you have a level 1 Axis in Normandy. How do you draw conclusions?
mg has a larger spread in movement, making it less suitable for close combat. I’ve said it a thousand times, but you keep writing some nonsense like “more agile” is a lie.
The BAR has 2.5 less spread in movement, which makes it much more suitable for active play, plus it has less spread: 0.42 vs 0.65 for the Mg34. The BAR is more accurate and comfortable weapon in every sense. Yes, it pays for this with a small magazine size, but the fast reload speed makes this fact not so critical.
The m1919 is a BAR that has ALL the same or better performance, except for the movement dispersion, it is 1.5 times worse. but still much better than the mg.
I think I just proved that the m1919 is better than the German machine guns in every way. “no it isn’t” you say. You are deceiving because you cannot go against the facts.
As much as the m1919 is better than the mg, so should the m43 be better than the thompson. If you deny this, you either agree to weaken your m1919, or you admit to being an extremely hypocritical person.
Then why did they give a P47 with 10 missiles and a 500 pound bomb at the same level, while the Axis got a fighter with 2 missiles and lousy maneuverability.
Is that normal? Or are you going to deny that fact here too?
You don’t have it and you can’t know what it is, you just lose games and think it’s about this weapon, but I’ve won without it.
Big Damage? 7% more Thompson in the real game it is unnoticeable.
The rapid fire rate? Much less than any Thompson.
Damage at range? The game is designed so that both the Thompson and the MP43 kill from 2 shots to 100-120 yards. Beyond that range you can’t shoot the MP43 due to its accuracy.
Yes, the MP43 has better accuracy, but that’s the only significant advantage, and here, I note, the difference is not 42% like the m1919’s accuracy advantage over the mg42, but more than half as much.
To quote a person from another thread.
9 base damage would be adequate for the MP43 if it were combined with an increase in accuracy to 0.45 instead of 0.7
Although I think that since all weapon classes get a bonus to rate of fire (even zavtor rifles), ARs should not be an exception and get half of the SMG bonus to be fair - i.e. 7.5%. That would make the rate of fire equal to 590-645 at 5 stars. Nothing terrible, but it would feel like an improvement.
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And most importantly: what makes you think that if Allies at level N are given SMG, the Axis should also get SMG? AR and SMG are used by the same class, so they open at the same level.
That’s like whining about the fact that in Moscow the USSR gets a PTRS and the Axis get a GrB 39. The PTRS is an anti-tank rifle and the GrB 39 is already a grenade launcher, but they are available in the same class and perform the same role, just in slightly different ways. Is that unfair too?
This example is identical because both Thompson and mp43 are automatic weapons available to the same class. The only difference is in performance, so it’s okay that they are at the same level.
You have to be an idiot to think this is odd. For example, in one of the new levels in Moscow USSR gets a machine gun, and the Axis SMG. Also odd?
literally never said that, my only complain is about allied planes, and I dont even complain by just doing it, I only bring it out when alliedtards start bitching by the 12 time a day about axis stuff
You go play the m1919a6 yourself and compare it yourself.
No matter how good the stats of the guns are, but if you don’t go and play them yourself, how can you judge?