Female Soldiers

Female squads is the only case where I am happy that premium squads are now underpopulated and overpriced. Rare tank, plane or small Soviet sniper team would be historically accurate.

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Calling Enlisted historical accurate game :joy:

Also kinda weird that this post is still up taking into account the amount of misogynist and sexist arguments with old gender “theories” it has as arguments. And on top of that having sexists far-righters calling the rest “leftist”, “feminists” etc while they only thing we do is to supports the historical fact that women were part of the war especially in the soviet army. Imagine this forum actually having moderation. Kinda disappointing ngl

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So your not a leftist but you are in favor of just removing free speech or anything else that you find personally offensive … Even if others do not …

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I think it’s BASED and REDPILLED that they are taking a stand for women’s rights and making sure Enlisted is an inclusive and sex equal place. It pisses me off that all soldiers are currently masculine CIS gendered people despite the very obvious fact gender is a social construct and many people do not conform to the archetypical macho, masculine stereotype.

hopefully in the future once they spend a lot of time fine tuning the inclusion of women they can continue to add minorities and non-gender conforming beings as well. I for one am excited for this announcement and hope they spend more development time on it.

Let’s be real here. The myth of white men stopping the nazis needs to end. A band of multicultural, multi gender, multiracial antifa is what stopped the nazis. Not the patriarchal white man.

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Historical truth aside, game wise, if, and only if, Darkflow already possess enough assets to implement female characters into the game, it COULD be done successfully. The rarity aspect should be respected, but there is ALREADY a very easy solution implemented… You want ONE female character? Use a gold order. This way they shouldn’t swarm the field, and characters gained with such orders have a unique feeling to them to boot. Would work.
Also as a comparison, I’ve seen such things work in other games, notably those tank games (WoT) for wargaming. You could get female crewmembers for completing some achievements. Granted you don’t really care if your oponent in that game got who as a crew since it’s impossible to see, but still. It’s been done before and it worked… The key is to make them very rare I suppose.

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here comes “muuuuuuuuuuuh mY fReEdOM”, “WhY i CaNt Be RaCiSt, SeXiSt etc”," muuuuuh CoMmIeS aRe CoMiNg" :joy: :joy:

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well a lot more women fought in WW2 than African-Americans in Europe for example. So since the later have a squad i m pretty sure women could have various soviet squads. You (not personally) can argue against that implementation by simple using other arguments than history etc

This is hilarious if ironic. If it’s not ironic, you’ve gone off the leftist deep end and have lost perception of reality. Multicultural? Technically yes; Russian culture, American culture, British culture, French culture, etc. By far, mostly White people, especially 70 years ago. Multi-gender? Yeah, all two of them. Multi-racial? Mostly White. America probably had the most Blacks of the Allied Forces, Britain the most Indians, technically it seems the Arabs actually supported the Axis more than the Allies in part of how much they often hate the Jews (you can thank Prophet Muhammad, his book the Quran, and the ideology of Islam in general for that), so technically both sides of WWII were ‘multiracial,’ Hell one third of the Axis was friggin Imperial Japan, which was and practically today is still an ethnostate. 98.5% or so Japanese (not Asian, SPECIFICALLY Japanese) with the biggest minority being Koreans which make up like 1% or so. Japan is, if memory serves, literally over 99% Asian, an ethnostate. That’s okay, just like it’s okay if any given location is a White ethnostate :slight_smile:

As for Antifa, nah, the modern context of Antifa consists of a bunch of cowardly panzies who can’t fight one-on-one and hate America/freedom/capitalism/White people. They’re helpless in the face of such Chads as Based Stick Man and “One Punch Man” Rufio, let alone the Wehrmacht. I’m “Anti-Fascist,” I’m a freedom-loving libertarian who believes in free speech, including the freedom for commies and feminists to speak out about their upside-down ideologies. To equate the Allied soldiers of WWII to those pathetic, limp-wristed, leftie terrorists is nothing short of absolute and utter disrespect to those who defeated Nazism 76 years ago. Simple as.

I have faith that it’s ironic though, because it’s just so perfectly worded to be hilarious.

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I’m pretty sure that’s true. By the sounds of it, more women served on the Eastern Front of WWII than Blacks served on the Western Front, yet the Blacks have a squad. Valid point, and as has been mentioned above, it turns out that an estimated 5% of those who served in the Red Army during WWII were women. Granted most seem to have been medics/nurses/doctors/surgeons so the actual percentage of those who served on the front line in the thick of combat was probably more than 95% male since I imagine the doctors/surgeons would have been farther back, perhaps even behind the 2nd line, where they were more safe and had infantry/medics/nurses bringing the wounded to them from the front. So yeah, if the Blacks get a squad, technically women are deserving of SOME amount of inclusion, though I disagree with ‘various’ squads. Based on my research, the only all-female squad I’ve found thus far is snipers.

The tanker females seem to have served with males. That one female machine gunner fought with males including one she fell in love with and had been KIA with on the same day. So I have accepted the concept of an all-female sniper squad, but I would need more proof before I accept some other type of all-female squad. I believe, especially given I’m an outspoken anti-feminist right-winger, that I’ve gone above and beyond my ‘due diligence’ to research female involvement in the Red Army of WWII. I created this thread, and I feel I’ve contributed the most proof/research/information thus far on the extent to which women contributed to the Eastern Front. Gaijin would do well to use some of the citations I’ve provided here in showing gamers that it is in fact along the lines of realism to allow the implementation of as many as 5% of the soldiers available being female.

As such, given how the game is set up, let’s take a Premium gamer of Enlisted as an example. 4 infantry squads, let’s say an average of 5 people each, that’s 20 soldiers in total. 5% is 1 in 20, so technically a full squad of women wouldn’t be realistic. Best to stick to just the one female soldier available per player. However, if the female characters/female squad are made exclusive and requires purchase, even if a player has one whole sniper squad plus a female sniper in another squad of males and one female tanker and one female pilot, making for basically 6+ female soldiers available when the likely maximum would be 42 (4 squads of 9 infantry, 1 tank with 5 tankers, and 1 plane with 1 pilot), that’s 1 in 7, which is far more than 1 in 20, but the vast majority of players who use only male soldiers due to having not bought any female soldiers/squads would tip the balance and in general, yes, the presence of women in any actual individual match would likely be much less than 5%, and since matches consist of front-line action for the most part, I do believe that less than 5% female inclusion on the actual battlefield would be consistent with what would have been found at any particular battlefield on the Eastern Front during WWII.

See? Middle ground can be found, it’s a beautiful thing. Y’know I once had a TERF friend? We’d hang out and watch movies, she hates Trump but I love the guy. We had lots that we disagreed on, including on religion, but we found things we could agree with as well. That was pleasant, in this time of political division I tend to find it heartwarming when leftists and my fellow right-wingers can actually sit down and have a reasonable, sensible, civilized conversation, even if it ends with agree to disagree. In real life when I speak with lefties about politics, I always seek to shake their hand after the fact, even though on one occasion it lead to the leftie pulling me close and basically muttering veiled threats into my ear. The tolerant left… he thought that Trudeau was centre-right lol Dude seriously must have been a literal communist.

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How on earth do these suggested changes at all affect you? this wont change the function of the game in the slightest. THese changes serve only to make marginalized peoples feel less marginalized. My only concern is that you’d oppose these simply from the position of some inherent need to oppress people.

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This thread became waaaay too political. I hope the moderators will close it to be frank.

nice. censor the oppressed people and females. real nice.

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Everyone running around with automatic guns → Enough historically accurated as those guns did see or barely see any combat = Has huge impact on game.

Women serving during ww2 → Limit them to oblivion 1 in 10 million at most = Has absolutely 0 impact to the game.

I wAnT tHiS gaMe tO bE hiStoRicAlLy CoRRecT

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amen! Only reason they hate it is because of internalized racism/sexism.

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Well played sir,
I fell for it and only realized your intentions when I saw your other thread. Well played indeed :sweat_smile:

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If this was actually historically accurated or realistic game I would agree with the historical accuracy argument.
But really this game is historically accurated & realistic as mariokart 8 deluxe, infact I think the mariokart is more historically accurated ww2 game than this.

My opinion of what is historically accurate or not breaking suspension of disbelief may differ from yours. After all my school years were passed in a town which was a frontline for over 2 years. You could easily find unexploded shell when walking in a park. So I accept that your version of WWII might be more inclusive. Hopefully devs view on the matter is closer to mine.

There is already games that are historically accurated and realistic to point that they arent even fun.
Fog of war ? Its also free game as it was so realistic that no one bought it.
HLL ? Historically accurated, historically modeled maps, as realistic game can be to remain fun.

But yet you people choose the most arcade ww2 game and cry about historical accuracy ?
I mean really, BOTS presenting soldiers of ww2 ? I find that even bigger mockery towards veterans of ww2 than everyone being modeled as african transgender midgets.

realism is not worth sacrificing people’s desire to feel safe and included.

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