You’re right, detpacks need to be nerfed vs infantry
They act as mega grenades
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honestly idk why everyone’s soo against making the dynamite more realistic and adding Composition C-3 plastique explosives for the AT squad… a much more powerful explosive that historically was used for taking out tanks…
fair point
i think it wouldnt be bad to add c-3 or something similar if the det packs keep some ability to damage tanks
exactly. i don’t want to remove the detpacks ability to damage the tanks, you should still be able to detonate a tank with detpacks if you pool enough of em on a single tank, and at the same i want an explosive that can infact instakill tanks but i want it for the AT soldier so it makes sense Anti-Tank Specialized soldiers would be able to equip a grenade that can devastate tanks
like the best way to do it would be to make it so anything above 50 armour would take 3 explosion packs to destroy anything below 25 armour would take 1 explosion pack to destroy and anything in between 50-25 takes 2 explosion packs… so if you hit lighter armoured tanks in the correct spots with explosion packs they can end up insta-killing them, heavily armoured tanks should require little more umph to destroy with explosions because their… ya know… heavily armoured…
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even molotov coctails took out tanks.
Wehrmacht had “Anti-tank” ribbon given to soldiers who took out tanks with hand held weapons and this ribbon specificly was given to soldiers that were not designated to anti-tank duties.
Just regular Friz & Franz.
So in that sense the game is historically correct.
Again. Then dont do it, quite fucking simple.
and i understand everything your saying but molotov’s can be extinguished if you get some distance, where as these dynamite packs just instantly kill any tank regardless of hull thickness, grenades of such calibre should be an AT reserved grenade its not like im saying explosion packs shouldn’t be able to take out light/medium tanks when hit in the right spot but heavy tanks should take at least 2 and at most 3 explosion packs
Guess so if you just find the prober ironman whos willing to hold hes breath and drive the flaming tank back to own lines.
Well it can be renamed to 6kg tnt which is more than enough to take out any tank when throwed above engine deck.
Except that hand-held anti-tank weapons were common among regular infantry.
While the AT personel were mostly armed with AT guns.
And above mentioned tanks should be clumsy as fk, extremely painful to steer and about never they should be alone without own infantry. This could be forced easily by making tank immobile if its not accompanied by infantry.
Or perhaps we should make some compromises fun > historical accuracy.
doesn’t take long to drive 50 meters so you can jump out and extinguish your tank in a few seconds then you just repair it and jump back in…
or they can just make a new grenade called Composition C-3
in a demolition pack like such…
not all soldiers were equipped with M37 Demolition Kits because the RDX used in the Comp C was an expensive resource they couldn’t just hand out to every dick, tom and harry.
and that’s what im trying to fucking do… its not fun to be able to fucking decimate every single tank with a pack of explosives that i clearly know doesn’t have the potential to deal that kind of damage
So your upset of TNT being too “powerful” to your realistic needs
( Which could easily be fixed by renaming it )
And at same time you are suggesting its not big deal to reverse drive blazing tank thats full of flames & smoke 50m, jump out of the tank, extinguish the tank by I suppose by blowing air ? Then replace or rebuild all the burned components and probably the fluids too with nothing but wrench all this while being under enemy fire, then just jump back in the tank and drive happily ever aftere to sunset like nothing ever happened.
Yeah sounds about right, pretty sure thats exactly what happened when tanks were ablaze during ww2.
But every average joe gets to drive not at all expensive tanks & planes in the game so Idk whats your point.
Then dont do it.
Then dont do it.
Its just that fucking simple.
What you are doing here is like hitting your face with spade and blaming the spade for being absolute fucking idiot for hurting you.
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i think iv mentioned this probably 20+ times already dynamite doesn’t contain TNT… C-3 on the other hand does… it contains like 1% TNT… its mainly RDX though which is a very volatile explosive more powerful then ANFO dynamite by many multiples.
as for the tank repairs you don’t end up being able to repair your tank to full health its always somewhat damaged afterwards
…PLANE AND TANK SQUADS ARE ONLY USABLE BY TANKERS AND PILOTS IN GAME…
your asking me to not abuse an OP item thats simple as fuck to abuse…
the fuck are you on…
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Even better, going on detail what the explosive includes and being butthurt about it but at same time considering its completely fine to drive blazing tanks.
Not at all hypocrite, you clearly are here only for historical/realistic accuracy.
Does that stop the average joe from using them ? No.
You have clearly stated that your problem is how easy its FOR YOU to destroy the tank with the detpack and all you have to do is TO not use them.
There you go cupcake.
you don’t get to repair your tank to full health even when you use the toolkit… you complain about tanks being able to be repaired which isn’t even related to how tanks take damage from explosion packs… and you expect me not to point out that your talking about a whole other fucking chemical compound when your referring to something that’s is made with ammonium nitrate and fuel oil ANFO and not TNT (Trinitrotoluene)
but they weren’t deployed in them… your really jumping through hoops here to try to disagree with me aren’t you.
if i wanted to not play the game i would just uninstall it… but what im trying to do is suggest a way to make the game more historically accurate so its more enjoyable to play…
Well that discussion began from Molotov coctail. Where you thought its completely fine to drive blazing tank and what else. At this point someone could have thought you seem to be slightly biased but not me I totally believe you are here only for the historical / realistic accuracy.
Yeah, pardon me as I dont really give a fk is detpack tnt,thermonuclear handgrenade or teddybears joylollipop as long as it blows up the tanks.
Which it effectively does as we speak.
Yeah, your argument was something like a explosive something wasnt supplied to everyone which is why it should be removed but at same time its perfectly fine that everyone can drive tanks and not to limit them to like level 500 as they totally werent rare as the explosive you mentioned.
Again, one could wonder is there some bias here but not me. I totally believe your only goal is historical / realistic accuracy.
So currently you cannot enjoy the game because detpack is too easy for you to use. But at sametime you refuse to not use detpack because its so easy to use.
Yeah that makes perfect sense and definitely doesnt sound like you have some minor bias intentions.
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if your in a tank with any type of speed you can get away quite fast you can put enough ground between you and the enemy in no time…
the problem is the explosive charge isn’t anywhere strong enough to be able to do that kind of damage to heavy tanks and front hull armour… and if it doesn’t matter to you what the fuck the grenade is then why the fuck are you so against making a AT grenade specifically for AT Gunner Squads…
is it maybe because you don’t want to lose your little quick and easy instakill tank destroying grenade that every soldier can equip?
some advice, GET SOME SKILL NOOB.
and for the nearly 100th time im not saying anything should be fucking removed clean the god dam wax out of your ears… im saying kits should be restricted to the squads they are specifically for…
and mmm yes over 1 million light/medium/heavy tanks is really a rare force isn’t it…
you don’t have a problem with the snipers not being able to equip the MG’s as a primary weapon, so whats the fucking problem with restricting powerful AT items to AT soldiers…
honestly just sounds like you don’t wanna lose your cheap anti-tank grenade because it won’t be easy for you to kill tanks anymore. like OMG you’ll have to equip an Anti-Tank Gunner to your squad to deal with Tanks what a travesty 
or OMG you’ll now have to equip a grenade bag to deal with heavier tanks if you don’t have an AT Gunner on your squad… how horrible how will i ever go on living 
Even if it was capable of doing 300kph I highly doubt anyone would stay in blazing tank. Except you ofc because thats historically correct.
Because I prefer them being available to everyone.
Which is balanced.
Infact it is, because thats balanced.
“L2p n00b!!!11 im totally not biased tanker”
Except its a proven fact that common infantry had hand held anti-tank weapons.
It is actually especiatly if you compare it to production of explosives or the amount of personel.
Also as Im not such Pro player like you are and even less I know about history if compared to your knowledge, I had to use wikipedia ( Ik its made by moon people and is totally unreliable source )
But anyway
That 76,000 + 270,000 could very well be over 1 million, idk im also very shit at maths.
Think the germans can actually have FG42 ? And no I dont mind if someone wants Mg42 for sniper.
Perhaps because they actually were issued to regular infantry ? Or is this the part of historical accuracy that does bother you ?
Indeed I do not want to, funny how long it took to figure out.
Due to availability of detpacks Tanks are perfectly balanced.
They are extremely powerful yet they can be destroyed, unlike the planes which still is somewhat problem.
To force everyone to take AT squad just because
its too easy for you to destroy tank with detpack > You refuse to not use detpacks even you want the game to be more challenging for you
Well il just leave that there, someone could wonder are we now dealing with some pissed off tanker that cleverly thinks no one has any idea what your intentions are as longs as you keep the
“Its too ez for me”
But not me my friend. I entirely believe your goals are honest and not at all biased.
I also watched a historical document called skull rider the main guy looks very much like nicholas cage but im pretty sure this is actual document so it cannot be some actor.
How ever, Il take back my argument about molotov coctails as this historical document did indeed prove you can drive motorcycle while being ablaze so why wouldnt you be able to do same with tank ?
Well tbh I even couldnt deal with the heavier tanks if they commonly werent driving in middle of our infantry.
Idk but dont give up cupcake. You are special.
even if the outside of a tank is on fire the inner hull is completely separate from the outside of the tank sure there may be a few small aim holes but if you’ve ever been inside a real take (i personally have my uncle repairs tanks for the canadian armed forces) you know those view ports have covers that you can open and close if needed, even if you drop napalm on a tank it takes a decent amount of time for the people inside to feel it and you don’t actually burn you melt because its like being inside of an oven that just keeps getting hotter…
exactly you just don’t want to lose your little cheap tank instakill grenade because you’ll actually have to do some work to defeat tanks
and these soldiers were called AT Specialists…
and ok i may have fucked that metric up on closer examination… but still 366,000 armoured vehicles is still quite a bit… that’s like the population of a medium sized town in vehicles
yes the MG squad can equip a scoped MG on the axis side? your point? because mine was about the Sniper Soldier… not the Machine Gunner
and the majority of infantrymen using AT weapons were combat engineer squads with artillery emplacements that were towed by jeeps and halftracks… not footsoldiers equipped with expensive high power explosives that would be problematic if the wehrmacht started getting a hold of them… not to mention the demolition kits were cumbersome for the average solder to carry around being that they weighed as much as a fucking shot put ball you don’t wanna be rushing the enemy with a fucking bag of bricks hanging off your shoulder…
im not forcing everyone to use a AT Gunner, like you keep telling me “All you have to do is TO not use them.”
There you go cupcake.
but if you want to deal with tanks you should have to throw the soldier with that specialization on your squad, otherwise throw a fucking grenade bag on and equip multiple grenades… doesn’t require an AT Gunner to equip a fucking bag.
Im not familiar with canadian armed forces but im quite sure that even theyr tanks arent exactly comparable to ww2 era tanks.
Yep, as the situation is Balanced. So theres no need to nerf anything just because some tanker is little bit butthurt.
Well if its the amount of town then it definitely was common as hand-held explosives.
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Well I dont mind AT units having pak40.
Well, Germany built about 500 000 h3’s that alone is enough to destroy every single tank of allied forces.
Well if you consider lets say 6kg satchel charge as heavy baggage. You really need to visit gym.
Nah, your asking nerf because your absolute trash tanker.
Sorry, I meant that detpacks are too ez for you.
Well if anyone else ranted this I would say you just really need to stop driving tank in middle of enemy infantry.
But as its you definitely not at all butthurt biased tanker il just refer to replys above that regulat infantry indeed had antitank weaponry.
generally all tanks used similar view port shields… its a piece of hull that can be opened and closed…
you keep reverting to this “im butthurt” accusation and i keep having to remind you that im not the one having problems with people blowing my tanks up… im the one who’s way too easily blowing every type of tank up with a single charge… jesus this is like im speaking to someone with alzheimer’s…
and you wouldn’t want an AT soldier with that kind of AT weapon… allied forces C-3 worked in a similar fashion because it’s like modelling clay and if you’ve ever thrown a ball of modelling clay at something you know that it splats and forms to the object you threw it against
and as for your last 2 comments il refer you to my alzheimer’s… comment again…
Perhaps you should study how molotov cocktail was used and why it was effective.
Had nothing to do with viewports.
Yes pardon my alzheimers.
Your posts just doesnt clearly point out your actual intentions.
Thats also true. I prefer them for regular troopers.