I think this reward will make it meaningless, just like the issue I just mentioned with ‘serial deserters’. If the magnification is uniform, people will be more inclined to’ start the next game and persevere '. As the number of deserters increases, there is only risk, and people will still choose to leave, which is not good.
better question is who plays casual cs2? if i want to play casually i will go to some pub match and play10v10 or 15v15 on d2 or some other map. 5v5 cs has always been competitive at least in my circle and i have been playing it on and off for ~25 years.
In Enlisted, you have a huge tech tree to unlock and need a lot of silver coins to purchase weapons and soldiers. Only veteran players have the opportunity to relax.
We must demand something to encourage players to continue trying to win, otherwise the ‘deserter punishment’ will only benefit campers.This is unfair to those players who want to win.
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I only quit when my loadout isn’t chronologically correct 
i have already made my case clear against deserter punishment before they fix most of problems with game that lead players to desert(shit map/mode and roflstomps). map preference was minimum requirement. preferably i would also like some kind of skill based MM(my idea is complicated to explain) that would probably be extremely hard to implement or at least removal of stacks from regular MM.
Stacks, much like vets, should have their own game modes. That way those who are still grinding can have their fun, and those who are done or those who want a more competitive game can stack with friends and fight similar stacks. Currently, stacks are way too overpowered against single queueing players.
If the incoming preferred map system is decent enough, and works the way I hope it to, then subsequent deserters should be absolutely penalised.
I’ve made my feelings clear about deserters many times over in the past.
They’re cowards. And funnily enough, it’s usually some of the so-called YouTubers, and veterans that are way too quick to jump ship when they “don’t get the battle they want”…
… Either way, it’s cowardly to leave a match before it’s started.
Leave that shit to competitive games i don’t want SBMM in yet another game. I like how random are those matches it reminds me of old mp games, you will never know what you will see in the next match , while new mp games feel artificial and robotic and just not fun. They will always have forced 50% WR which makes game not fun and for Enlisted it would make me wait 20mins+ per match. Map selection is obviously a good thing just elo ratings would not work unless it’s a separate mode.
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Desert punishment with team that doesn’t want to cooperate and enemy team is tryharding and spawn camping your team will only make me want to sit back and grind kills with my tank/plane/mg/rifle and no longer care about the objective.
It’s not just issue with those teammates/enemies but also how awful are some maps in the game. I guess Dark Gaijin wants some matches to turn into slow as molasses version of Quake.
Yeah Did they forget this is real war?
Yeah Why dont wanna people constantly carry noobs against stacks?
What are those guys? Playing video games for fun or what?
No, stop larping.
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Dude, it’s just a game. Just play the game.
Sometimes you’re flush, sometimes you’re bust.
Deal with it.
People take this shit way too seriously. But I stand by my words.
A deserter from a match is a coward. “Ooh, I need to protect my k/d… I need to protect my win rate…”
All nonsense.
Just play the game.
My opinion is that players can escape, but those who stay should not feel pain. For me, more rewards are enough, but others may not be like me.
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And I will add, that some games when I’ve literally seen YT’ers, and veterans alike, leave a game before it’s started, we’ve won it.
It’s ridiculous, honestly.
They have nothing to lose by just playing the game they’ve been dealt.
maybe when people desert, all of their XP should be distributed to people who stay and they simply get no XP. This wouldn’t help early game desertion but might help those who desert mid and late game.
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Without a map filter, deserter penalties are meaningless and will only make the game die faster.
Except for those unbelievably bad players with terrible skills, nobody enjoys wandering for 20 minutes in Conquest mode with 5 capture points for just 50–60 kills—it’s mind-numbingly boring. Constantly matching into awful modes and maps with an exit penalty is enough to turn this game into utter garbage.
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It will only make people stop playing the game altogether, rather than just deserting a match. Not to mention those who leave right at the start because they don’t like the map or game mode --you simply can’t force people to play something they don’t enjoy.
I don’t really know what the best solution to this issue is, but adding penalties will just shrink the already small player base even further. It’s a stupid idea unless the goal is to kill the game.
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I know i will get crusified for this take, but it seams like the deserter never had the intention to play the game in the first place when he constantly desert all the matches, so nothing of value would be lost.
And if they weed out the bad apples the matchmaking would improve for everyone else as a 10 vs 10 lobby matched would actually stay 10 vs 10 and not devolve into 8 vs 10 because of your teammates wanting to reroll the map.
When unbalanced lobbies are allowed to form like that, it are the new players who will suffer as those are the one sticking around for the match to finish, before they also give up on the game. While the serial deserter will just bail on the next 10 matches in the same timeframe.
And if new players are not allowed to have decent matches the game also cant grow.
how exactly do you know they constantly desert matches, instead of just leaving a single game where a sweat stack is steamrolling a team that already consist of bots? and u know exactly what type of matches i’m talking about .
What about players who quit at the start because they can’t stand a specific map or mode but otherwise play well and contribute?
Also, what punishment are we even talking about here? Docking silver or XP is meaningless, and a full ban would be downright idiotic.
Because they come to the forum to brag about it from time to time and give that kind of advise on the forum…
I would say it is hard to contribute if you have deserted.
My suggestion would be eighter like 2-5 minuts MM ban for all MM or 5 minutes MM FOR THAT FACTION ONLY. I know it might not stop desertions but it limits the amount of matches a single player can impact rather than punish the players.
Full bans would be stupid as people might just loose connection.