Enlisted Identity crisis

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What kind of shooter game is Enlisted?

The game used to be about WWII with certain Historical Authenticity(not realism), which no longer matter cuz time travels is applied when the Devs feels like it(Jumbo, Chaffe and M2 Carbine in Normandy, MkB, Pz IVs in Moscow, AS44, RD44 and Fedorovs in Berlin…), prototype and exclusive weapons as standarized weapons(AS44, RD 44, AVS 36s, AVT40s, Fedorov Automat, Type Hei, Type 4 Garand… the list go on), hell soldiers doesn’t even have correct uniform, they even screw up Volkssturm despite being civilian clothes with arm band, no that’s long gone

SQUAD focused(AI squadmates and the core gameplay), the AI hinders the player for the most time, you can micro them as much as you want, those guys won’t stand a chance agains an HE shell or plane rockets when they are struggle with their pathfind, or even stand a chance against and actual player meeting them head on

mixed pacing combat, this game is no way a fast paced game, the only fast thing it has is the time to kill, you move incredibly slow compared to any arcade FPS, hell even Milsim, the game is janky(just try climbing), unstable(any kind of bugs the update can bring to ruin the pacing) and powercreep(player difference can be quite big currently, so for F2P and Premium players)

Small segment of the map, with not large enough playerbase or team size to fit the match(filling the game with bots, specially one sided campaigns), maps are all mixed or even dogwater design, you can’t seriously tell me a map filled with building you have the nerve to spawn the team in the open field

Grind, premium and MOFO, the whole reason the game works or don’t work, there is people who find it worthwhile other just don’t and move on, one of the reason this game has a stagnate playerbase

6 campaign, 2 side, and 3 servers spliting the playerbase in 36 pieces, you also have people who spend times in custom games

For the merge is 5 BR(since tiers doesn matter I guess), 4 factions, 3 servers, look, you really need larger playerbase for that man, even MM reduce it to 2~3 BR is still kinda thin here but hey, guess we somehow meet more player than bots right? I mean that’s the point right?

Enlisted is at best an Arcade Simulator shooter at current state, with tad bit of bugs that seems to revert back within time, with a questionable balance that the Devs seems to not give a damn about it at all(please read the stats sheet before you say something, the hidden stats that doesn’t show ingame specially), wacky hitbox and crappy terrain, half baked map design, and lots of overpriced digital pixels to sell

What Enlisted want to be? Cuz each major change seems close to BFV and CoD Alternative WWII v2, if you make a game too similar to those, you need to polish the game and actually fix the bugs to compete

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For me it is a game ruined by misinterpretation of historical accuracy.

Historical accuracy means that soldiers use historical weapons (M1 Garand, BAR, Gewehr 43, PPSh 41) on a maps that resembles real places.

Currently game suffers from vehicles-inbalance, so instead of fixing vehicles (decrease reload time of IS-2, add machine gun to SU-100) they add fantasy weapons (AS-44).

Historical vehicles + fantasy weapons = road to nowhere

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I don’t even expect Historical Accuracy but Authenticity, means the game actually feels like a WWII game at bare minimum

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Short answer:

Survival of the fittest (to the market).

The game will naturally try to evolve to the form that grants the broadest audience and the greatest financial success (or, at least, what from Devs’ perspective will supposedly bring that result).

Every other aspect is negotiable and can be traded on the altar of success.

This ain’t even an accusation, it’s just the state of things in the world of market.

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That’s inevitable indeed, the Devs might not aware this but, if you are making a game similar to other, people will choose the one with better quality or population

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I have similar feelings, it’s hard to say what this game actually is, it leads to a split among the community, because everyone creates suggestions that they imagine in what direction this game should go. It’s obvious that no one would make suggestions about realism in a battlefield game that is 100% arcade-style, but enlisted makes it quite reasonable considering some of the game’s features border on more tactical gameplay. For me too, the gameplay, atmosphere, graphics, the entire core of the game clash terribly with each other. I would like the devs to clearly define what this game is and what direction we are going in, it would also make it easier for the community to make better suggestions. Well, unless the devs don’t know themselves, which is quite possible knowing them.

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Well, the ship sailed long ago, and further away with each major updates, just wait and see the merge

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Dopamine farm

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Lol, SU100 has no machine gun, you want to add fantasy machine gun to SU100?

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There needs to be separate gamemodes that feature historical fantasy weapons + historical fantasy scenarios (Operation Sealion, aka German Invasion of Britain; Operation Downfall, the US invasion of mainland Japan; and Operation Unthinkable, the Allies’ continuation war against the USSR) and historically accurate gamemode that was practically the first year of release of Enlisted where an overwhelming majority but a special few squads were using bolt actions.

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DT-29 is a real weapon (it is also available to use for infantry).

To add or not to add - surely it is just not as conspicuous as AS-44 (7 weapons were built up to mid 1946) and most players would not even notice that detail.

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they actually said that something like this would be possible through custom games, it would be possible to limit individual weapons and vehicles, thereby creating conditions for such gameplay.

Would be great if customs weren’t crap

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SU-100 has no DT machine gun even on the real thing. ISU-152 had DShK on the cupola.

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Lol you want historical accuracy but you want to add dt29 that was not used on su100.
Lets add MG131 and Wurfrahmen 40 on German tank then, since those are real weapon.

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Devs want to know the answer too

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Can you quote my words where I “want more historical accuracy” or they are only your imagination ?

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This may have been a good argument a few years ago when the state of the entire industry was in doubt, but there has been a renaissance of passion in gaming (BG3, AC6, Starfield) that I think reflects the reality that players will flock to a game that KNOWS WHAT IT WANTS TO BE.

The problem with Enlisted right now its that it is a “Jack of all Trades, Master of None” and that allows for a toxic mix of different players that all want different things (and they all get SOME of what they want)

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say thank you to the Twitch streamer-effect from 3 years ago. cheesing xp ruined it for the rest of us

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Enlisted is…enlisted