By the end of CBT, let's review how they said in FAQ just before CBT started

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PLZ! THIS THREAD IS NOT MAINLY TALK ABOUT THE MG30’S BALANCE!!!
This thread is mostly about how they “promised” before CBT started, and now, this game has turned in to a mobile cash grab game.

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What paid for options will there be available?
Also we do not want to impose micro-transactions as an opportunity to purchase some sort of ingame advantage. A player will have an opportunity to get collectable weapons and characters that are different from the others but do not offer ingame advantage (which is strange in the first place - a bullet to the head means death for every person after all) rather providing uniqueness or rarity.

However, now we get the horribly balanced MG30. And it’s even kept on sale after CBT ends.

What about match-making?
Match-making on the “rating” servers will be based on the player’s rating (skill) with an opportunity to make a squad, meaning that you can invite your friends to play in the same team

While currently matchmaking system is a total fail. No balance at all, but keep sending you to wrong servers. Also not able to select what maps to play, but being forced to a random map and mode and a random server. Let alone rank related matching or newbee protection system.
OBT is coming soon! You still want this s**t matchmaking system to serve tons of OBT new players? By then, you will have NO EXCUSE of “low playerbase” , unable to make it.
I think the first few days of OBT should be avoided to avoid possible chaos in game and online matches. Or even possible tons of hackers. Since we dont have any ways to spectate others to figure out possible hackers.

From Enlisted Press kit ,https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/17VPLKRLpnr-tFzY7D5DWzspUJYIGh0fg:

A player can customize and train squads according to their individual playing style, unlock perks and upgrades as long as this does not contradict the historical accuracy principle.

Now we get some ridiculous perks, especially the jumping perks, make you like jumping on a spring bed. Also EVEN IF there is difference among different soldiers, the +100% stamina is too unrealistic.
But instead we should able to “tweak” like +25% stamina, +5% running speed, +25% more ammo, etc. We should get multiple different perk aspects like +5% in A, +10% XXX in B, even -10% XXX in C, but not one huge perk like +100% only for A!

After reading the old FAQ, I remember the day when I was excited after seeing Enlisted’s closed test news and bought the two premium packs as soon as it came out. It was promised or advertised to be a GREAT game. But now??? The original spirit of the game has been abandoned, and now it’s almost like a mobile cash grab game.

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Sucks you don’t like the game. I kill MG30 teams just fine and I’m having a lot of fun. Sorry brother.

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LOL. Still not acknowledge how MG30 OP?
See this:

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Tell me is Chauchat has ANY advantage than MG30? Except for 5kg lighter which dosent help at all.

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Looking at naked stats does not determine anything… I would agree with @67929529. It is not like everyone needs to be hit 5 times in order to die that the ROF makes something have a bigger advantage. Plus on the Chauchat you won’t run out of ammo that fast. Plus would it be boring to have two nations be balanced to the point where every class of a weapon is equally good? War of clones but with different skins? Soviets have more damage on rifles, they got the fastest tank, best AT (14.5 mm) gun, PPsh and shotguns!!!. Germans got better MGs, pistols, faster reload speeds, planes and better teams :rofl:. This what makes someone play one nation this turn and the other next turn. It is like tanks/airplanes in WT where you play one vehicle/nation for their advantages and the other vehicle/nation for their advantages. Plus only the English speaking community whines about issues like these. There are no forum topics like these on Russian side. NONE.

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chauchat are very different guns. Honestly I can’t imagine what you’re even aiming at? Should everyone be equipped with identically performing weapons? Outside of FOMO I really don’t understand why you’d advocate for such a boring playing field.

“wow german guns have diff stats than mine” Can’t wait for allied guns to receive the same microscope analysis.

I head shot and save more ammo with the Chauchat.

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both those guns are premium weapons

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I literally was typing that when you posted your comment!

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I use both MG30 and Chauchat. And you are the few ppl I heard dont agree on MG30’s OP is a bad thing.

Yes, not to make all weapons feels the same. But at least the competitor should stand out in some stats. Especially these two are sell at same price.

So why MG30 with 5 more bullets cant save your bullet? And with lower recoil?
And WTF in WW2 there’s still Chauchat???

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Actually, wait, you are right about WWI mg in WWII :rofl:. I don’t know why that missed me. Yeah, Soviets had tons of MGs (some rare short production early war mgs) that can be better competitors for MG30. But remember that MG series machine guns were so much better than any other machine guns that existed in the period.

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Hey can anyone tell me where I can change the forum language at? All my stuff is now in cyrillic and I have no idea where to go to fix it because I cant read anything lol

(Edit) Nvm used translate feature on the browser to find it

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Your experience is that of the minority. A lot of players have complained about the MG30, MP41 and M2 Hyde being too powerful. Just because YOU personally do not have an issue with them doesn’t give you a reason to actively try to piss on everyone else with your superiority complex because they just want to see OP weapons get nerfed. “Just git gud lol” does not apply to cases where the stats actually back up the claim of OP/not OP.

It determines one gun has objectively better stats than the other. Whether those stats are effective or not is a different story, but the base line of the MG30 being better than the Chauchat is established.

Except you fight squad vs squad. To eliminate a player, you need to kill him and his 6 minions.

Except if you look at the PPD and the MP, they are balanced. One shoots faster with higher DPS, the other is more controllable due to lower recoil per second. That is BALANCE. Having one gun objectively better than the other in every way, that is not balance.

False. They complain less because they are more used to pay to win. They do not not complain at all. Besides, Russians make up for way less than 50% of the playerbase as it only covers a handful of countries. English section is way broader. And saying “well group A complains about it less than group B so it must be fine” should not be a metric about whether a gun is OP or not. Let’s add the KV-1, an absolutely unkillable tank for any of the German tanks. Have 10% of the playerbase say it is fine. Sure, “balance” then I guess :rofl::clown_face:

Chauchat could use less recoil, or more of a weight difference so it could measure up against the MG30.

Indeed. Again, PPDs and MPs perform at the same level, but are not identical.

Well sorry to talk to a “FPS GOD” but for the average players, that does not happen lmao. Although if everyone actually had such good aim to always land headshots, the MG30 would still outperform the ChauChat due to higher ammo capacity (btw, Chauchat’s mags were rated for 18 rounds, not 20) and ability to follow up shots faster with the lower recoil and higher firerate.

Except those at least have downsides, namely higher damage falloff, higher recoil per second, longer reload time or smaller magazine, when compared to the MPs.

Once again, balanced / identical PERFORMANCE is =/= 100% copy pasted stats.

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bro please take a break. Come back to the discussion refreshed.

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Well there are way more players on the Western side so naturally they have bought more premium squads. You need to look at average premiums per player instead.

The original reply was entirely aimed at Mr. Ghost of fish meal.

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Well I’ve been around here probably more than anyone else, and it might actually surprise you if I say that a lot of the most diehard defenders of the premium squads have come around by now. Only a handful are left.

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Probably helps that they weren’t legit shills in the first place tbh

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No. I build up my arguments using objective facts where possible. At some point, the diehard P2W defenders that claim things are not P2W will realize that the stuff actually is P2W when they get presented the facts often enough. Unless they are shills.

The P2W topic comes up often enough to not make it like “super pushy” to keep replying to it.

You’ll get used to it.

And for the record, most of us do not whine about stuff like this. We all took a week or two to compare the guns despite looking at the stats which told us the MG30 was OP. And guess what, it turned out to be OP.

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