BR changes proposal

Hello bajtársak and fellow forum dwellers, I would like to propose some minor BR changes.

US:
M1C Garand sniper rifle - BR5 → BR4
M10 Wolverine - BR4 → BR3
M4A2 (76) W - BR5 → BR4

USSR:
SU-85 - BR5 → BR4

Germany:
Fiat G55 - BR4 → BR3
Panzerwerfer 42 - BR4 → BR3
StG45(M) and Mkb42 - BR5 → BR4

Japan:
B5N2 - BR3 → BR2
D4Y1 - BR4 → BR3
Tokyo Arsenal - BR4 → BR5

Reasoning:
US

M1C Garand sniper rifle:
Contemporary rifles such as the scoped Gewehr 43 and scoped SVT-40 are BR4.

M10 Wolverine:
Good anti-tank capabilities and armour somewhat better than M4A2 but its anti-infantry capabilities are very limited due to lack of MGs and weak HE.

M4A2 (76) W:
Same armour as the BR3 M4A2 but armed with a 76mm gun for better AT capabilities, it’s worse than both T-34-85 and Panthers due to weaker HE.

USSR

SU-85:
Fire power similar to T-34-85 but no MGs, it does however have better armour, comparable to that of the Panther G.

Germany

Fiat G55:
This was originally meant to be BR3 pre-merge, but got changed due to some whining, whoever did that never flew with or against it.
The Yak-3 with similar performance is BR3
The Mustang P-51-D5 is significantly faster and has much bigger bombs is also BR3.

Panzerwerfer 42:
The only comparable vehicle is the Calliope, which is a literal tank with rockets, a cannon, MGs and good armour protection while the panzerwerfer is just a half-track artillery piece with paper thin armour and a poorly placed MG42 for self defence. It’s 100% unfair for them to be on the same BR.
BR1 can no longer get bullied by BR3, this counter argument is no longer valid.

StG45(M) and Mkb42:
Don’t be fooled by the name, their performance is far from that of the StG44.
They have DPS and dispersion comparable to that of BR4 SMGs such as PPD-34/38 or Thompson M21/28.
Currently the only Axis tech tree BR4 assaulter weapon is the Beretta 38 (40 rounds), so BR4 really needs some love.

Japan

B5N2:
This aircraft is incredibly slow and a very easy target for any aircraft not to mention the complete lack of any forward facing weapons.

D4Y1:
It has 1 500 kg bomb which sounds good, but really isn’t when JU-188 and A-20G-25 fly around with similar performance and 6-4 250 kg bombs on the same BR.
It is comparable to the BR3 AP-1.

Tokyo Arsenal:
This weapon has insanely high DPS at CQC, better than ppsh41, M1928A1 50 rounds and Király39M, all of these are BR5.

Thank you for your time and attention!

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I agree with everything but panzerwerfer and ARs.

Should be br 3 tbh. It is literally just sniper m1 with a skin

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I guess its BR4 as gewehr scope is BR4 as well.
BR3 is bit of stretch as it still can fight BR2.
Sure, I agree that scope SA hardly if at all makes any differency in BR3 vs BR2 game but still, id rather not move too much of high tier gear to BR3 as long as it can fight the BR2.

Maybe few more years of collecting data and they lock BR2 too :person_shrugging:

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Honestly M1C should be BR3/4 and “Sniper M1” just needs to be removed from the game because it’s a post war variant and it’s redundant.


Maybe not tech tree ones to not have BR4 filled with AR spam, but gold order MKB 42 W should not be BR5 for sure, there’s zero point in buying it.


Also my BR change suggestions:

USSR
Mosin 1944 - BR2 → BR4 and dirt cheap
(because 1944 and we have other BAs)

Germany
Puma BR2 → BR4 and upgunned to 75mm
(because 1944)
MP 3008, VG 2, K98 Kriegsmodel, VG 1-5 → BR5 and dirt cheap
(because last ditch Volkssturm 1945 weapons)

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I once had an idea that was forwarded, but there’s no follow-up.

No need to buff premium stuff.
Something unique doesn’t have to be “good”.

If so, la-7 and Ki-61 also need to be change?

Since BR3 can no longer encounter BR1, KV-1 (ZiS 5) should be moved down to BR3.

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75mm puma could maybe work in br 3 but definitely not br 4. It is open top, paper armour and br 3 cannon. In br 4 germany has panthers that have better pen and better survivability. Puma does have better mobility but usually it is irrelevant when the maps are so small anyway

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Than L-11 KV1 will lost the meaning of existence.
independent of this suggestion, game need another way like score costs to balance stuff in same BR.

Lol that is not moving it to other BR that is deleting it and add another tank.

Basically no one will want to use bad stuff even if it is dirt cheap.

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No, just give us option to equip any tank by any tank squad.

Maybe.
But not every vehicle or gun is perfectly meta and doesn’t have better alternatives in that BR.

E.g. no one is using BR5 Tiger because there is BR5 Tiger 2.

Not everyone plays for meta.
I will use them.
People who want to roleplay VS would use them.

Maybe people who think they’re MLG top players can use VG 2 and MP 3008 in Berlin and display their skill in BR5.

Lol if you want to roleplay you can just take it to br5 and use it. No need to move its br.

True but 75mm puma just fits br 3 better. It has br 3 gun and br 2 chassis so either br 3 or 2. Also tiger e should be br 4 with panthers

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Previously I was against this, however since the recent announcement about removing BR1 from BR3 matchmaking, I believe panzerwefer can finally be moved down to br3

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mostly good, except for tokio arsenal being way too bad for BR5 and the post is missing a general tank destroyer downranking.

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We could say the same thing about sniper SVT-38 and SVT-40.

But it’s quite obvious 8 rounds semi sniper rifle shouldn’t be BR5. When all other BR5 sniper weapons are SF. It just doesn’t make any sense.

It doesn’t really matter if it’s going to be BR3 or BR4. But it definitely shouldn’t be BR5.

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yea if farquhar hill can be br4 then m1c garand could easily be 3 or 4

Semi-auto rifles shouldn’t be higher than BR4 no matter the magazine size, SF rifles are simply much better.