About Panzer III N leaving BR2

Happens

too often

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Okay let me try some more basic logic:

We are talking about T28E vs Panzer IV F1 which means

50mm armor vs 60mm armor
50mm+ penetratio vs 60mm+ penetration

Which so far gives T28E both the advantage in anti armor and protection.

But you should also consider that German BR3 vehicles have also only 50mm of turret armor, while Soviets have KV1 which will be immortal to Panzer IV F1 without HEAT.

I dont know about anti infantry power yet, haven’t made up my mind, extra MG vs faster reload, personally I would root for faster reload but that sounds like a preference thing to me. I especially am dominating with top mounted MGs quite often, one of the reasons why I think Panzer III N was that good…

Also size is an interesting factor - it makes a target easier to spot, but also spreads the crew further apart, effectively increasing its survivability a bit.

I think T28E wasn’t much different to Panzer III N in total power.

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Your suggestions are full of delusions and ignoring the obvious problems.

Yeah but they also buffed Soviets and Americans for no damn good reason, and there are more guns to balance for Germany they don’t have anything to counter PPS-42/43/Thompson spammers + new Soviet op smg, BR3 smgs are crap unless you have MP-41(r), their BR3 semi autos are all bad with insanely long reload speed, BR5 has no TT drum smg. They have no high damaging rifle like Soviet Fedorov that got buffed for no reason. Their paratroopers squads are subpar and can’t switch their guns.

The T28E is too long and quite cumbersome to move in the map. Its machine - gun bullets are seriously wasted. I think it is still not as versatile as the 3N.

Cheap excuse, nothing more.
I might have dyslexia, but Im still fluent in english and I have received no complaints to date regarding my writing style.

Not unique to you

But there is a huge difference between you and me
I gave a detailed reasoning for each item.

But Darkflow-Gaijin doesn’t care about actual stats of guns, they will move any weapon/vehicle in BR or buff it if enough bots like your post.

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Pz.3 N very strong in BR2 and not strong in BR3. When this tank move to BR3. Why Ho-I don’t move to BR3 this tank is strong same with Pz.3N in BR2 :thinking:

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If we utilize WT statistics, the best HEAT shell the Panzer III N got maxes out at 115mm of armor. That’s only marginally better than the BR2 Crusader and Panzer III J1. It’s nonsense that it would be too overwhelming for BR2 play.

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Why do people think that this tank is a so overperforming for BR 2?
Yes it is a 75mm gun but also takes ages to reload.
6 seconds vs 3.3seconds is huge.
And armor isnt even good aswell.

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5.9 sec reload with paper armor, how would it be even remotely warranted

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When i compare Ho-I with all BR2 U.S.A tank on research tree
:Good armor
:75 MM cannon high fire power
:All shell type can shot infrantry
:Medium turret speed and can spin 360
This tank can destroy USA tank BR1-2 with 1 shot
and not have BR1-2 can kill this tank with 1 shot

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Just no
50mm is nothing really

75mm is nothing that special even in BR 2 but the reload rate is bad

Its nice to have but nothing a good tanker cant overcome.

Most tanks can.
37mm guns might need another round of AP to set of ammo but if you can flank you can even nuke the entire tank with a single SAPHE rounds.
Everything else with a larger cannon should have no problem to ammorack the tank in a single round.

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That will never happen! Too many whiners in this game who want to nerf everything…

You saw a screenshot of the T28E with large green zones above, so everything is fair. Besides, the Pz4 still has a 3.3 second gun reload. Moving the Pz3N to the BR3 literally didn’t change anything. So I suggest you calm down and see what happens.

these are my words. So far, cheap excuses are only coming from you.
The best thing you can say is, “well, he has more ammo” and that’s it. That’s where the advantages end.
Want to talk some more? Well, here are the statistics for you

I used to scoff at the idea that faction based bias was prevalent in the game, but as the years have passed on…

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nicely cherry picked.
Comparing Fedorov with AT-44 which has the least recoil of all ARs.

Lets look at the completely picture instead:

When comparing BR5 tech tree weapons: assault rifles and select-fire rifles, plus the Thompson M1928A1 (50) (I included this one for better comparison and understanding of stats)
SF rifles are heavily balanced by limited ammo reserve, even the Type Hei Auto is forced to reconsider spray and pray tactics due only coming with 30/30 ammo by default, meanwhile BR5 weapons have crazy ammo pools, 100 round MGs have 200 ammo by default. But Fedorov with AR ammo reserve pool can freely fire without consequences.
In fact the only downside to Fedorov is the “long” reload time which is only 0.4s slower than ARs.
All ARs have very little recoil, you didnt even take recoil control into account since Fedorov has AR recoil control that is better than SF rifle recoil control.

TL;DR: just check the damage guide.

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You should read what he said instead of making false conclusions

Ill just add the trolly bits in manually. You can get pretty unlucky on the turret (with deviation and motion). Id stick to the box below the Driver if its not hidden behind debris

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