About Panzer III N leaving BR2

[Valkay]

@Mortarion_Death

Just try it on the range.

Range is on almost perfectly level ground.
I got trolled due to ground level difference.
I know where to shoot since I used to play WT.

[Mortarion_Death]

@Adamnpee

Rage bait is real, lmao.

You can always watch my replays yourself and start criticizing them. I can’t force you to do that. We’re all equal in that. But I’m at least trying to give you the opportunity to choose what to show yourself. But, here’s a person saying he’s having problems. I want to watch it, what’s wrong with that? You can do the same thing to me and not even ask me.

[GeneralBrus]

@Myrm1don

Just for anyone that’s interested, I have circled the area most likely to give you good results. Even though the turret is green, It’s very trolly with Seams on either side (not recommended unless no choice, if the tanker is smart and hull down)

hope it helps!.. it didnt help showing the Panzer IIIN weakspots (Which cant be hull down)

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Oh…also It might show up as yellow in Enlisted…just shoot anyway

Thank you - exactly my experience, it can be penned and destroyed, but just not easily - especially at long range. Panzer III N vs T28E was comparable, both could penetrate each other but not easily.

The issue with Panzer IIIN was not its literal anti armor power, but the complete package.
HEAT + rapid reload + great mobility + utility and MGs → simply a powerhouse that made all other German BR2 tanks obsolete. The issue now is that I fear T28E could fill this gap( not set in stone, just a thought of mine, I am myself not even convinced, which is why I started this topic to begin with )

[Mortarion_Death]

@Darenius1

but more recoil be my guest but that 8 rounds is not worth it.

I don’t quite understand what you’re talking about?

[GeneralBrus]

@Mortarion_Death

You can always watch my replays yourself and start criticizing them.

Stop with that replay argument already - this isn’t about your or my performance.

[Darenius1]

The Beretta M38/42 is almost like a MP 40 but with more recoil which is not woth the 8 additional bullets

[Mortarion_Death]

you didn’t answer my question.
The language barrier is certainly a problem. Try repeating it. Are you for or against the automatic rifle meta?

[Greyparrots]

Yep and the Soviet or allies are not exactly lacking in that BR with their nonsense but yes let’s give this Soviet and allies more firepower and remove what little teeth we have left

[Mortarion_Death]

@Darenius1

Does that look like fun to you?

I think if you want to play a tank, you’re in the wrong game, War Thunder is two blocks down.

[Valkay]

Im for balance.
SF rifles might have been a mistake, but we are stuck with them, Darkflow-Gaijin won’t change something after so many years.
Anyway you also ignored everything I have said so the problem is deeper here than mere language.

[Mortarion_Death]

@GeneralBrus

I dont see any logic in your assessments other than you trying to win an argument no matter what - just like a child.

Here you are mistaken. There is no dispute. The developers have already made decisions. I am helping you make them.

[Darenius1]

@Mortarion_Death

I think if you want to play a tank, you’re in the wrong game,

Already running out of arguments, are you?

[GeneralBrus]

@Mortarion_Death

Are you for or against the automatic rifle meta?

Good question but you have to agree this topic is kinda complex to begin with - M2 Carbine and Type Hei are good examples that these aren’t rules set in stone

[Mortarion_Death]

@GeneralBrus

Thank you - exactly my experience, it can be penned and destroyed, but just not easily - especially at long range. Panzer III N vs T28E was comparable, both could penetrate each other but not easily.

You forgot about cumulative shells and 80mm of armor penetration. And here we have a simple armor-piercing shell, at a distance that is not in the game.

[GeneralBrus]

@Mortarion_Death

Here you are mistaken. There is no dispute. The developers have already made decisions. I am helping you make them.

Ah come one - its called a test server for a reason.

[Mortarion_Death]

It’s a matter of taste. I gave everyone the Beretta M1.

[Dregomz]

@Mortarion_Death

It’s time to start understanding something about this game.

That Soviets are overpowered and no matter BR they are playing they are always the strongest nation and every update they keep getting buffed. How about we also take all German BR2 smgs from to to BR3 as it was your and DF’s brilliant idea with MP40 at BR3 and leave them only with rifles and pistols?

[Greyparrots]

I found a way to fix this problem and this will make everyone equal Alternative history

[GeneralBrus]

@Mortarion_Death

You forgot about cumulative shells and 80mm of armor penetration. And here we have a simple armor-piercing shell, at a distance that is not in the game.

Well one of the reasons why I argued for removal of Panzer III N from BR2 - its HEAT though limited made it easier to deal with its AP shortcomings.

And about range - just play that quarry map, German BR2 tanks have issues at those extreme ranges, yes that quarry might be an exception and up close T28E is much easier to beat, but still these things matter in the broad sense.

[Mortarion_Death]

@Valkay

Anyway you also ignored everything I have said so the problem is deeper here than mere language.

because your words don’t make sense. You’re leaving out too much.

@Valkay

but we are stuck with them

Do you think so? I don’t. After all, it was my suggestion to increase the damage to Fedorov. And guess what happened? Don’t thank me. Probably, in order to change something, you need to do something.