Bolt action need a damage buff

Except it’s 15, i know it’s 15 and not around 20 because i have rifles with 15 damage that 1 shot and i have rifles with 17 that one shot

listen, I pick a MP 40 over any semi auto and bolt action in every single situation.
up to 50 meters every smg has the upper hand, and thats 90% of all engagements.

No 1 has been complaining about semi autos being OP, no one.
However they got nerfed because ppl complained about how useless bolt action rifles were.

Semi autos and smgs were in the perfect spot, MG have been overperforming and select fire rifles are still overperforming, while bolt actions were underperforming.

The devs should have never touched that which was “OK” instead they should have buffed the useless stuff and nerfed the OP stuff.

Instead we only got nerfs so far, and I fear that the next update is gonna nerf select fire rifles into oblivion, so that ONLY smgs are left as a viable option - meaning eventually they will also get nerfed, until the point of us shooting with BB guns.

Nerfs destroy that which ppl enjoy, while buffs create more divers gameplay by trying to destroy the so called “meta”.

So you preferred SAs that acted like SMGs with all that power and range in mind ? got it. Well some like COD type of playstyle but im not and can still rock pretty hard with an SA in close quarters of which its not for btw

Id say they arent really a large step up at this point though I still have solid games with them. Its currently auto rifles that rule everything and make all else essentially obsolete.

we are having COD playstyle by spamming full auto. I absolutely dont understand your position on this.

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To All BA Lovers, come to Tunisia and let the Players play CoD/Fortnite in Normandie

Another nerf and it’s becoming more and more like CoD.
Bolt actions require skill and you can never have enough of that.

Even if each Bolt Action did 20 damage, it would still be skill to play.

I like to play K98k even if I only have 2 of them in my 10 lineUp squads. Could replace it but doesn’t want to.

The best Premium Squads are the 4 Bolt Action Squads, and Tunisia’s Squads are just awesome to play with 20 yellow perk points

but again I say nerf life from 10 to 5.5 and it will be more ENLiSTED again.

I would also install the already programmed JammedGun function in custom matches.
How many years have passed since something like this last existed

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So why use a bolt action then either? One shot with an MP40 will down you

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it should be just like that you need at least 2 shots with the MP.
Depending on the body hit also 3

well thats another issue that should be addressed to ofc but doesnt mean…

  1. That SAs should function like smgs
  2. Shouldnt there be some kind of progression in this game though ?
  3. BAs are still not worthless against high end weaponry since they are more reliable and hits harder at long range and even up close

They manage to show perfect tank models, building them up depending on the thickness of the armor and gimmicks attached to the tank. why don’t they create a Perfect Human Image.
Perfect in quotation marks it is and always will be a game.

Sorry I’m at work and can’t explain what I mean

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You mean that human should also have “components”?
image
(image from Tarkov)

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which they didnt, and that is the big difference we are having.

Tarkov has the most unrealistic, and bullet spongy gameplay I have ever witnessed.
Dont dare to bring that super bugged dmg model into this game.

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To add to this, bolti perks (only one) should cost less than 12 weapon handling to encourage use. As of right now all recoil perks are absolutely useless for BAs while it’s single perk requires almost all weapon handling points just for a single perk that doesn’t make too much of a difference

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I dunno, my pilots always get rifle kills whilst flying at max speed and dropping bombs hitting targets i cant even see so they can’t be that bad?

new players AI and AI controlled squads. Only a handful of hard nuts keep using bolt actions at high lvls.

TTK should definitely stay as it is. One hit one kill (more or less) suits this game very well.

But making human damage model similar to damage model of vehicles in terms of complexity would be nice imo. So if you get shot in arm you can’t ADS, you get shot in leg you can’t sprint. Both can be fixed by FAK (but maybe soldier would have a small pernament debuff even after heal).
Personally I like when things are complex (unless it’s in real life :upside_down_face:).

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we already have that, its called “being down” but not dead.

Sure you could make it so that a bolt-action always kill in one shot no matter what if you hit the upper torso, but a leg shot would incapacitate you.

The problem with tarkov is that you can take 20 shots without dying just because all of them landed in your legs. Or even worse, your arms absorbing the dmg even tho your shot hit center mass, however since the guy was standing sideways and the game has a very bugged way of “spreading” dmg across your body ppl just dont die.

Arma 3 has a way too complex Hp system, that is a total mess and bugged beyond repair, but Tarkov is 10 times worse.

Make Body 7, Arm 10, Head 3,5. Legs 9. Finish. So add Vitality 35% everything is cool

Its a Videogame at all but makes Peoples Hungry with REAL and Original Feelings, but imo its more and more CoD, you have to Hit a Enemy with 1/3 SMG Mag, or 2/5 BA Bullets… Sometimes from the 2 ShotDrilling you make 2 Hitmarkers AFTER PATCH .Only MG works good with 2.

A Noob will stay when his LVL1 Rifle is strong like Endgame Gun.

Its not about Yes or No. Its about simplest Logik.

Give a Damn BOLT ACTION his HONOR back!
i play it so Rare. But are the Guys, which say No, stupid or what…

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When playing against low level dudes and bots this could be true, just like when game launched and no one had vitality (except premium squads), and smg/ semi-auto rifles were rare.

Now i get hit all the time with bolt action in cqc, shrug it off as all my dudes got vitality, and just slaughter their whole squad with full auto weapons.
I liked bolt action more, i would play more with them. But. They. Are. Shit.

Sniper’s have to headshot to kill, hit my body and i blast half my fg magazine in Your skull before You load another round. It’s bullshit.

Not only You can have vitality on all dudes easly, they also come with 2s medpacks. So if You have to reaload, you better switch to pistol, and on long range hide.

Even explosions that barely touch You are more devastating, as more and more people spam them, and You get 10s headache simulator.

10s for granade 5m away
2s for shot in my chest (unless i have vitality, then shot me twice)

Any argument that Bolt-action is fine, is ignoring all other aspects of this game, or just want to stomp noobs/bots forever because it’s only enemy they can kill.

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