BAR 1918 and 1918a1 should be rank 2

The Thompson has 20 rounds, so does the BAR. :rofl: The BAR wouldn’t have anymore bullets then any other Machine gun in level 2. It has the same mag size as the German Mod30, but more recoil. I can spray and pray with the mod30, I can’t with the BAR1918.

Let me guess, the only people here who oppose the BAR at level 2 are people who play mostly level 2 Germans and want to keep the advantage they have in machine guns department. :rofl:

N O this thing is 10 better in br 3 so bar in br 2 is just a dream >: (

There’s a few things that needs (in my opinion) being moved from his current BR.

The first Thompson, the M1A1 should definitely be BR2.
The MKb42 could be BR4, same for Kiraly.
The Panzer IV H could be in BR3 too
The PPD 40 should fit well in BR4.

The BAR tho… The 1918 could be in Br2 if it was nerfed a bit (more dispersion, movement reduction)

Nah I have to disagree with this one however. I am not a fan of the MG 13 or breda but I really like the ZB. The only downside it had was the high price. But this is not the case anymore, I will gladly buy more of this really nice MG !

The 1918 BAR could be BR 2, but it would need some nerfs: Similar dispersion penalty and accuracy as the Bren and nerfed mobility (most LMG has -50% sprint speed at BR 2).

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Nope it should be br5 since it has the same number of round as T20 lol.
You can’t even understand your own example.

This doesn’t make any sense the BAR only weighs 16 lbs while the Bren weighs 22 its always gonna be more mobile.

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Most of the mobility penalties are kind of arbitrary, probably for the sake of ā€œbalanceā€. If you look at the stats cards, Bren Mk1 is lighter than the BAR A2 (8.3kg vs 8.8 kg).

Just to compare some stats:

Hotchkiss M1922 weights 9.2kg -50% mobility
FN 1930 weights 9.6kg -25% mobility
Type HEI LMG weights 10kg -0% mobility
KE7 weights 9kg -20% mobility
Type 96 LMG weights 9kg -35% mobility
Lathi weights 10kg -25% mobility
Knorr Bremse MG35 weights 10kg -35% mobility
Breda MG weights 10kg -50% mobility
MG 30 weights 10kg -50% mobility
Browning wz. 1928 weights 10kg -25% mobility
MG 45 weights 9kg -35% mobility
Johnson LMG weights 5.9kg -25% mobility
Fedorov MG weights 5.5kg -0% mobility
RPK weights 7.2kg -20% mobility
RD 44 weights 7.4kg -20% mobility

The Johnson is the 2nd lightest LMG in game, yet heavier LMGs have better mobility.

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And what are the statistics? Everyone I play with plays with ZB, and I often see this machine gun in the enemy team. I didn’t say anything about the sight at all, that it was better. The accuracy of fire is better in the ZB than in the Bar, the table on which everyone relies does not affect many factors.

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1918A1 is significantly better than the M1918. It would have to be just the M1918.

I’ll do you one better, lets set it at BR 1.

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no definitely not that’s too much

basically friend, they can’t stop to cry

You are wrong. The running speed is the same. The sprint speed is different. But it differs by 10-15 percent.

The main thing is not to get confused.
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BARs have a much better ADS speed and much less dispersion penalty on the move and when hipfiring. So yes, BARs are much better for CQB than MG13, you can use them to fire on the move effectively, they are much more reactive weapons, while MG13 is pretty much ineffective if the shooter is not stationary. Enlisted is a game that rewards run and gun playstyle rather than sitting and camping, this is why the quality of the M1918 makes it a better weapon than any other BR2 LMG

Oh, and ingame statcards literally mean nothing because they are wrong.

Also, based on your argument, I suppose tha KE7 should as well go to BR2

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Yes.

But all of it can be nerfed. Which I think is the way to good. M1918 is already significantly worse than other 2.

It would be nice to finally have US BR2 MG. (I am kinda biased here)

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your excel table doesn’t mean anything either. So you don’t know how to read it correctly.
Everything you listed is practically identical in reality.
I personally checked it and even recorded a video. But I didn’t upload it.
But if you don’t believe me or don’t want to check it yourself. I can upload it for you.

huh? No one asked for BAR 1918A2 on BR2. Only 1918 and 1918A1. But I would only stop at 1918. If you ask me. So KE7 can stay where it is, next to 1918A2

Seriously? Pve? Is the axis weak? At 2 BR they have 3 machine gun + premium mg 30, the best planes, the best tanks. Excellent smg. So who here really wants to play with bots?

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