7.5 cm KwK 37 used in Panzer 4 E/F1

That should be achievement in the game.
Even Kim family of north korea is far behind in bias compared to you.

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Regular T28. Not the E though. But even there you end up having issues most of the time. Taking down turret first is much more consistent.

I was 1 shot by 45mm a few times, but I’ve also 1 shot tanks myself. Though it’s much easier to 2 shot and there really ain’t a difference between it. Hit turret, then front plate, panzer 4 gone. That hard? Both the weakspots are at least 20x larger than the T50s.

T50 spam is worse, as low level players only have 2 solutions to it: detpack and stuka. detpack only works up close and stuka isn’t really a great counter, as it eats tickets and can usually only take out 1 before dying. Early allied players have those as well (IL instead of stuka) + the T26 and bt7, which can get rid of it with 0 problems.

Because it’s much more agile than me and 200m in the greyzone.

I don’t get what you’re saying due to your poor english (not insulting you, just stating facts), but bt7 is equal to panzer 4 if played well.

No.

Matchup considered. Learn english words and phrasing before creating unnecessary misunderstanding.

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Here you again say “I am clown”.

I easy destroyed a lot

Soviet tanks on pz3b, every time kill many infantry.Are this mean “PZ 3B are OP”?

First t28 can’t do it.
Why t50 as 29 lvl tank can’t one shot tanks? :rofl:

Pz 2 can easy destroy every soviet tank (without t50,t50 can be destroyed by pz2 but it more hard).
Pz 3b/e too can destroy every soviet tank (t50 hard to destroy).

45mm is good in Enlisted on Moscow because the tanks have shitty armor.
45mm is shit in War Thunder.
2 diffrent games.

T28E also can be one shot(some times I see it in kill logs)

If you not shot first than you die.Also you possible better play than this idiots on pz4.

Just use Stuka to destroy t50,what is problem???
Pz 3b can’t pen t50,but have good ap ability(when I play on pz3b/e I just ignore t50,often ally Stuka destroy him).

Pz3e too camp in GZ.

Bt 7 has worse mg and gun.

Than not be a stupid fool.

What you misunderstand here?
Are 45mm gun can penetrate t-50?
Yes or no?If this best AT gun in Moscow,then it must penetrate t50 frontal.

45mm good only for t26 and bt7.
If you want nerf t50, then it will useless tank.
T-50 worse than bt7 in gun/maneuverable/speed/turret speed.
Only 2 good things have t50 - 2 dt and good armor.

75mm in all characteristics better than 45mm

How do you tell what’s a 1 shot and what isn’t in kill logs?

If the pz4 is shot first, it’ll also die. Or at least be paralyzed for long enough for you to shoot a 2nd shot and finish it. I’ve been on both sides, I know how this works. The only reason bt7s die more is becasue they’re a lower level unlock, so the players that use them are usually less experienced.

You can usually only pull off 1 run due to russian air power. They can spam T50s faster than you can stukas. And stukas drain manpower, so spamming them will decrese your chance to win.

Except the panzer 3E is a tasty snack to everything that’s meant to take out a tank. Every russian tank and AT weapon chews it up. And the 37mm does nothing to basically infantry.

In terms on AT power it is equal. But generally, the bt 7 is very quick and agile, so it evens out.

I have better things to do with my time than to read all your crap.

Actually though, it can pen it better than the 75mm on the panzer 4. It has 70mm pen ,the 75mm has 51mm pen.
And also, learn what matchup considered means.
A T50 can’t realistically face a 45mm gun.

Gun is the same. it’s literally the same thing. Both have the 20-K 45mm gun.

Maybe tomorrow reply.
So many absurd…
37mm and 45mm have useless He.
But pz3 has 2 mg34(best tank mg).

37 does, 45mm HE actually works.

Only the early variations, not the J. And those are free food for every russian on the battlefield. They get 1 shotted by every tank gun, penned by both AT rifles and are the easiest tank in the game to detpack.

They work same.

In shit hands t50 too free food.
For me pz3b/e are very good tanks(dots).

Unless they did something to 37mm just few hours ago, no they aint.

True, which is why USSR should be locked faction to Russians only then it wouldnt be problem.

Also soviet pistols are OP af revolver especiatly.

Hey now!
I tested out my Pz3J in practice range. Orginal topic is HEAT on Pz4 not if Pz3J can kill a T-50 because it can if it is upclose same thing for pz4.
HEAT round would be a good tool to put T-50 out of commission at extreme ranges where Pz3J or Pzgr 39 cant do anything.

Was talking about alternatives. Still off topic from me.

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Nope. I have no clue where you’re getting that, 45mm is vastly superior.

Nope. it’s mostly idiot proof. All you gotta do in a T50 is just keep your front armor towards the enemy and point and click at what you want to kill. Also, panzer 3E is literally the 2nd worst tank in this camapign and possibly the whole game. it’s free food regardless of who drives it.

Yup! my favourite soviet lineup is TOZ-B with Nagant revolver. it’s unstoppable! Shame they had to nerf it last patch :pensive:

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Well the 45mm can’t penetrate all the spots of the best variants of the panzer 4/3 tanks currently in Moscow, so if you give one side a gun that can penetrate every part of the other sides tank, then the other side should have a tank with a gun capable of doing the same, that is if you are going for symmetrical balance, instead of the asymmetrical balance we have (and honestly we should keep).

Specially because the t34-76 is the most historically accurate tank.

It can. It can pen both turret and hull from all directions, as long as you aim at the flat bits and not the little bit of 80degree sloped upper glacis.

That’s the problem. The 45mm can pen anything, same can’t be said about any german gun. Now if you added HEAT for the panzer 4s, then this would be achieved. 45mm would pen all german tanks with 0 problems, 75mm would pen all allied tanks no problem.

It can’t necessary penetrate every plate on a panzer 4 , you have to aim it to the weak spots. While HEAT. Shells coming out of a 75mm gun will pen every plate of a T34-76 or T-50, at nearly any angle.

People want the T-34-76. If you would bring in the HEAT shells this wouldnt impact balance too much imo.

Behold, your very hard to hit" weakspots" on a panzer 4:
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Just fyi, 85% of the tank’s frontal armor isn’t a “weakspot”.

In contrast, this is what the panzer 4 player has to deal with:
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