❓ Your questions about the mission editor and launching user missions in the game

[Aurora_Pioneer_I]

Thank you!
Then, how to create an ai that will automatically use melee weapons to attack? G1R0SCOPE once produced a 25v225Ai (melee) battle

[Devenddar]

I think he just used custom profile for gun game event and then just use gun game mechanic that give sword to everyone.

[Devenddar]

@Night_Voyager_CN

Then, how to create an ai that will automatically use melee weapons to attack?

But if you want create static bot that will stay in same position then just write sword item name in properties.
After restart it should be with sword.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

thank you so much, i can finally make pre custom scenary soldiers:
(that get saved upon restarts)
thank you so much:

although, i have a question.

can you go a bit deeper regarding:

@Devenddar

How to spawn bots?

Well… For that you need add postfixs +human_melee_charge+ger_soldier.
And then spawn base_soldier.

like, step by step.

it’s not entirely clear to me.

reason being, i want to preplace soldiers in a few of my maps to kinda give some resistance for players.

but i don’t really know how.

previously, i used to spawn with soldiers, and straight up clone them. which with your finding, ( of putting them clothes ) it’s… not ideal. mainly because they kinda… spaz alittle with their aim.

like, they are glitchy in their movement. so i was abit more interested in your way.

but when you have time of course.
thanks.

[Aurora_Pioneer_I]

But how did he made over 200 Ai

[Devenddar]

Well… We have two ways/two version of bots.

Easy way, but with weak bots:

1. Write +human_melee_charge+ger_soldier in postfix template area.
   (Without human_melee_charge template bot will be in “T” pose).
2. And then find base_soldier entity and create it.
   
   
3. Edit animchar_res to change equipment/clothes.
4. Done.

Why weak bots? Because they can’t normally kill you if you’re crouch/lying on the ground.
I mean you can almost infinite lying like that:

And poor bot still will try kill you…

A bit harder way, but bots are better.

1. Write +ger_base_soldier in postfix template area.
   (Different in “base” and don’t need write human_melee_charge).
2. And then find base_soldier entity and create it.
   
   
3. Equip him by editing human_equipment__initialEquip.
4. Save file and open scene.blk. And then find entity and remove this code:
   
   Why we need do it?
   Because ger_soldier or ger_base_soldier and others soldiers are unaviable in editor entities list.
   Why we can’t use base_soldier+ger_base_soldier? Because it will prints error after death.
   
   
5. Done.

Bonus:

They’re almost full customize. I think all info in properties will be saved.

Maybe you also can edit aim and other things. Like voice sounds:

And…

If you see this… Or trying rotate these soldiers…

Then it’s useless. Nothing will be changed. Info about it will not saved.
Also bots anyways sometimes automatically rotates.

Here is file:
scene.txt (33.2 КБ)
Rename it to Scene.blk or create new map in editor and then copy paste code to new map scene.blk.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

impeccable as always.

thanks.

didn’t know about the differences which were one of my doubts about if was even possible to have different type of AIs.

but thanks for clearing doubts and the indepth step by step.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

ok so, i noticed a few things.

not sure if that’s supposed to happen, or not but.

today i finally managed to try the blk that you send, and tried to follow the various steps.

so, to start:

@Devenddar

• Write +human_melee_charge+ger_soldier in postfix template area.
  (Without human_melee_charge template bot will be in “T” pose).
• And then find base_soldier entity and create it.

whenever i place in my mission the base_soldier, the editor crashes:

and, the soldiers that i make:

are like ghost in my blk.

can’t find them. ( for clone them into other blk missions )

which, then, regarding your mission in question:

@Devenddar

@Devenddar

customizable_benchmark_animchar can be too used, but seems it’s a bit buggy.

those are not there for me:

hence, my suspects of not saving it’s technically still there.

and lastly, not related, but mindblowing:

tried to apply a builded_auto_turret, crashes as well. therefore can’t really make it work that shoot on other tanks

[Devenddar]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

whenever i place in my mission the base_soldier, the editor crashes:

That is why you should write +human_melee_charge+ger_soldier or +ger_base_soldier here:

And only after that spawn base_soldier.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

are like ghost in my blk.
can’t find them. ( for clone them into other blk missions )

Hmmm? You mean that they immobile and still work like decorative animation?
Oor… Disappears after restart/some time?

About scene that I sent before…

My bad, i’m sorry. I didn’t normally check what I sent.
I mean it’s older, buggy and not clean version.

Here updated file.
Should be cleanner then old one:
scene.txt (33.2 КБ)

In this area…

@ErikaKalkbrenner

Now you see better demonstation of decoration soldier with anims.
customizable_benchmark_animchar, customizable_menu_animchar and common_menu_animchar.

I mean no objects in objects and only one type each object.

About bots… They’re in Univermag building.
2 floor: “weak bots” - base_soldier+human_melee_charge.
3 floor: “a bit normal bots” - ger_base_soldier.
4 floor: weapon changes test. You can note soldiers with ppsh 41.

Tanks and some soldiers in streets - are just test things. I just…
Test possibility to destroy objects like if they were enginer buildings.
Test possibility to clone soldiers and requip em. And also dev_soldier template.
Test corspes.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@Devenddar

That is why you should write +human_melee_charge+ger_soldier or +ger_base_soldier here:

And only after that spawn base_soldier.

ah… me dummy.

@Devenddar

Hmmm? You mean that they immobile and still work like decorative animation?
Oor… Disappears after restart/some time?

well, they are present when i boot up the level, and i can move them around.

but i cannot copy and paste them onto others blks because it’s like they are not there.

@Devenddar

My bad, i’m sorry. I didn’t normally check what I sent.
I mean it’s older, buggy and not clean version.

no worries.

@Devenddar

About bots… They’re in Univermag building.
2 floor: “weak bots” - base_soldier+human_melee_charge.
3 floor: “a bit normal bots” - ger_base_soldier.
4 floor: weapon changes test. You can note soldiers with ppsh 41.

yeah, from what i had, i could see that. very impressive nevertheless.

@Devenddar

Tanks and some soldiers in streets - are just test things. I just…
Test possibility to destroy objects like if they were enginer buildings.
Test possibility to clone soldiers and requip em. And also dev_soldier template.
Test corspes.

yeah, that’s actually great now that i think about it.

endless possibilities.

bit of a shame that we don’t have actual working tanks instead of have to make frankeistains templates with various features that in some occasions conflicts on how would work between each other.

[Devenddar]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

well, they are present when i boot up the level, and i can move them around.
but i cannot copy and paste them onto others blks because it’s like they are not there.

I don’t know why, but they’re in start file, after battle area code.
Well… Anyways here is code:
“Weak bot”:

entity{
  _template:t="base_soldier+human_melee_charge+ger_soldier"
  transform:m=[[-0.0890853, 8.23823e-05, -0.996024] [-8.23823e-05, 1, 9.00795e-05] [0.996024, 9.00795e-05, -0.0890853] [-34.0793, 15.0649, -128.408]]
  animchar__res:t="ger_summer_3_char"
}

“Normal bot”:

entity{
  _template:t="ger_base_soldier"
  transform:m=[[0.488875, 0, 0.872354] [0, 1, 0] [-0.872354, 0, 0.488875] [-39.7112, 21.0887, -118.973]]

  "human_equipment__initialEquip:object"{
    attachable_wear_head_01_us_summer_item:t="face"
    attachable_wear_gloves_01_us_summer_item:t="gloves"
    attachable_wear_tunic_01_ger_summer_item:t="tunic"
    attachable_wear_pants_01_ger_summer_item:t="pants"
  }
}

“Decoration soldiers”:

entity{
  _template:t="customizable_menu_animchar"
  transform:m=[[0.219007, 0, 0.975724] [0, 1, 0] [-0.975724, 0, 0.219007] [-67.8148, 5.10653, -114.387]]

  "human_equipment__initialEquip:object"{
    attachable_wear_gloves_01_us_summer_item:t="gloves"
    attachable_wear_tunic_01_ger_summer_item:t="tunic"
    attachable_wear_pants_01_ger_summer_item:t="pants"
    attachable_wear_head_01_it_item:t="face"
  }
}

entity{
  _template:t="customizable_benchmark_animchar"
  transform:m=[[0.219007, 0, 0.975724] [0, 1, 0] [-0.975724, 0, 0.219007] [-65.81, 5.10653, -114.989]]

  "human_equipment__initialEquip:object"{
    attachable_wear_head_01_us_summer_item:t="face"
    attachable_wear_gloves_01_us_summer_item:t="gloves"
    attachable_wear_tunic_01_ger_summer_item:t="tunic"
    attachable_wear_pants_01_ger_summer_item:t="pants"
  }
}

Other objects are too in start, but not in end file.
Maybe it happened because of update.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

yes, i saw them.

and i was wondering why in your chase, they appear:

@Devenddar

“Decoration soldiers”:

entity{
  _template:t="customizable_menu_animchar"
  transform:m=[[0.219007, 0, 0.975724] [0, 1, 0] [-0.975724, 0, 0.219007] [-67.8148, 5.10653, -114.387]]

  "human_equipment__initialEquip:object"{
    attachable_wear_gloves_01_us_summer_item:t="gloves"
    attachable_wear_tunic_01_ger_summer_item:t="tunic"
    attachable_wear_pants_01_ger_summer_item:t="pants"
    attachable_wear_head_01_it_item:t="face"
  }
}

but if i take a closer look to mine:

i
have around 13 custom characters:

but if i open the blk and search the key word:

( and yes, i have restarted, saved many times, which from the editor perspective, it counts them being there. and i can move them around. but in the blk file it self, it’s like those do not exist. not a single code i can transfer )

[Devenddar]

Wow. I have no idea. It’s very strange.
Because all info are in scene.blk. Weird.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

why do i always run up into issues that no one has

thanks anyway.

i think i can get around, but as usual, more time consuming.
maybe i’ll have to make a guide with all names and ids for various items so it’s gonna be easier for everyone ( and faster ).

[Petr8207]

chtěl bych staré boty

[Devenddar]

Whoops. He just make 5 teams in lone fighter game mode with gun game mechanic*

[Devenddar]

How to spawn ai vehicles that will trying to reach their destination?

For that you just need add postfixs +ai_aircraft+ai_aircraft_crew_X+ai_vehicle_driver.

x can be: ger, it, jap, sov, usa, uk, moroc, pilot.
Probably only ger, sov and usa have unique soldier equipment.

And after that set property ai_vehicle_driver__destination. And it’s done!
(Currently time tested only in local game).

Keep in mind that ai_vehicle_driver have some problems:

• You can’t add ai_aircraft_crew to civil vehicles or ships.

• If you killed driver, but not all “crew” then vehicle will keep move.

• Better to lock vehicle. Because when player will sit to it then vehicle will starts move (but it doesn’t move if player is driver).

• They can’t read NavMesh, but sometimes trying rotate vehicle.

• Bots in ai vehicle still can’t use turrets/cannons to kill enemies.

• They will always trying get their destination.

(I used Gaz_67 coordinates for AI vehicle destination).

[Nikolipo]

Hi
Have you success in do that ?
if yes could you show me how ?
i saw many of your post about entities.blk could you show me an example of scene.blk and entities.blk that you used for your aircraft request with the 15 bombers and your paradrop ?

[tommyZZM]

@Nikolipo

an example

@Nikolipo

15 bombers

volokolamsk_lake_inv_entities_example_15bombs.zip (7.8 KB)

Here is a example scene with only entitiesblk is created in this file, and the scene file is copy-pasted from the official one

You can start with this upper simple example and then read and use my on working entitiesblk (more complex one).
wip_tommys_entities_data.zip (136.5 KB)

But in any case you need to read the official entities template or even das code, and understand their relationship and working mechanism.

[Nikolipo]

@tommyZZM

But in any case you need to read the official entities template or even das code, and understand their relationship and working mechanism

Thanks
Where can i read this ?
in Enlisted datamine ?
wich folder/file pls ?