Would it make sense to base the BR system on years?

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I have just been wondering if it made sense if instead of calling it
BR 1
BR 2
BR 3
BR 4
BR 5

we could call it simply
BR 1941
BR 1942
BR 1943
BR 1944
BR 1945

I know that not every piece of gear would 100% fit into those year specific categories, but the overall picture seems to be more or less fitting, so special gear can of course be “up yeared” to fit balance better.

Also better performing early war gear can be nerfed and worse performing late war gear can be buffed anyways if needed.

Any thoughts?

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no

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Years would imply we aim for HA and that’s not the case.
BRs sound more nutral.

But imo it’s good devs will make BRs conected with maps and gear to make it a bit like years. It’s a good compromise.

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nope…

first cause you could have pre 1941 campaigns. and second lots of OP equipment is pre 1941 (compared to first 3 tiers of new BR). thompson, bar, mg34, mp40, avs 36, svt 40, ppsh 41, itd.

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I mean, does it tho? Sure Tiger tanks by that logic could be BR3 - which is a bad idea, but just because something appeared early in the war, doesn’t mean it would have to in the game

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Hm yeah thats a good point, greese gun came after Thompson…

Maybe I am not thinking things through hehe

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I think they should make it like this:

BR1 - moscow
Add all stuff that was historically in moscow (more or less) and remove stuff that is clearly unbalanced (like KV1). Later change BRs when needed when update is live. So it’s balanced but HA flavoured. And from what I understand, that’s the plan.

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PPSh-41 in all BRs that sound fair against Germans right? I still think PPSh-41 should play on Moscow but with high BR not on BR of 1.

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So… MP 3008, VG 1-5, VG 2, kriegsmodell vs RD-44 & AS-44.
In short, not at all.

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Why not though? :frowning_face: Those weapons should be in berlin.
Players can choose to not take this gear if they don’t want to fight BR5.

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Because a system based on years is completely and utterly unbalanced and would make absolutely no sense to make

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Ok.
What about the planed BR system? Will those weapons have BR5 to appear mostly in berlin?
(Again, if player doesn’t want to play vs BR5, he can chose to not equipp those weapons.)

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I feel like the first system, with some tweaking and refining, would work infinitely better than WT’s BR system

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MP 3008 will definitely not have the same BR as a AS-44

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No, because Fedorov is WW I (1914-1918) weapon.

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So Mp 3008 in stalingrad it is.
Sad. I hoped for more. Especially since you have tools.

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Which wouldn’t be a problem if it performed the way it actually did - mostly terrible.

Malfunctions were a thing, and most experimental stuff was rather "bad’ for a reason.

But yeah, raw stats are often difficult to mess with.

I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT, the way we are going is most likely the way to go, it’s just a thought I had.

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I did not too long ago suggest a reserve troop type of squad that has bigger numbers of Soldiers with bad stats- but also with their own weapon category - cheap improvised weapons.

BR 5 Volkssturm squads with access to those poor Volkssturm weapons

BR 3 Soviet Partisans with mixed weapons and stolen German gear

BR 2 Romanian Squad with their own cheap stuff

BR 4 French Resistance fighters

BR 1 Soviet Conscript squads

And many more - would potentially fix late war gear that performs bad.

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Sadly we won’t have nice things. Because balance.

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I mean KV tanks, T34, Tiger tanks, Jagdpanther, Matilda many more are famously known to have first appeared in surprise with the enemy really not knowing how to counter said vehicle.

But again, just because Tigers fought early war tanks in Leningrad, or Jagdpanthers did Churchills in Normandy doesn’t mean they would need to in the game, its still historically accurate to make those vehicles NOT fight unfair counter parts - because Tigers also fought IS tanks later in the war.

Not showing how germany struggled to fight KV tanks with their poor Panzer IIIs is not breaking historical accuracy - instead showing this one sided fight is not fun - unless you have a propper working asymmetrical balance system, which is very difficult to pull off.

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