Just bring a spare squad equiped with fg 42 2 or a kingtiger in your line up and you will be BR 5.
So not sure why people insist for volksturm weapons beeing max BR when you could just rigg the MM instead with a single BR 5 gun/tank.
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Now that I am thinking about that, imagine the fist bolt action rifle for germany would actually be the long WW1 Gewehr 98 - like the sniper version we have in the game, just without the scope.
Even though most bolt actions perform about the same, firerate, reload speed and especially sight picture are the most essential stats of a BA rifle.
That rifle would truly be a candidate for being BR0, because it performs outside of super long range damage pretty bad.
this was posted dozens of times already and numerous weapons in ww2 make this impossible.
fedorov avtomat would be BR1 (its from 1918) although its one of the absolutely strongest weapons in the game (and forever will be)
german late war trash quality weapons from 44 and 45 would have a higher BR than the fg42 that came…in 1942.
and similar jokes. also this creates problems with small nations like france, finnland, poland etc that didnt properly participate throughout the whole war and didnt have 6 years of weapons evolution & production.
for them this system would be even worse.
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Potentially … if its only the stick mag PPSH maybe,
Well to be fair, Fedorov can be the exception - since it was more of a prototype/ reserve/ museum gun anyways at that point, it appearing in 1945 is just as “magical” as it appearing in 1941.
And about the FG42 discussion, though the FG was indeed developed in 42 - thus the name - it actually first saw combat in September 1943, and was later used in Normandy.
So the first FG being BR 4
while the second being BR 5 is absolutely plausible, tho both FGs in the game perform like a BR 5 weapon to be fair.
Another example could be the MKB, yeah its a 42 gun, but was actually battle tested later, if I am not mistaken.
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To not have volksturm in moscow.
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Why though?
You have some sekrit documents?
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Didn’t Volkssturm already also take part in Normandy? So some guns could be BR4 instead of BR5 maybe? Wouldn’t make them all that better - but its a start right?
the fedorov dropping out of the top 5 or even 10 is only possible with such extreme power creep, that it would ruin the game.
there is easily 10 years of weapons design space left by adding interesting features to existing weapons, different HA skins, different pay offs etc.
once a game starts power creeping hard it will inevitably fail and lose player trust (because theyve seen it numerous times in other games), lose sales and the player base disappears.
there are even precursors to enlisted from the last 10 years who did similar things, ran out of ideas (because low quality employees) and just started adding stronger/flashier & more expensive versions of existing weapons, knowing well this is sustainable only for 1-2 quarters and then the game will be broken beyond repair. —> games crashed after 6-12 months and disappeared from the internet despite once having loyal fan bases.
What about a nerf?
It doesn’t cause powercreep.
(I mean theoretically so calm down commieboos.)
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yes nerfs are obv always an option, but thats even worse for player trust.
look at counterstrike: basically exactly the same weapons since 20 years and every weapon behaves almost exactly the same → perfect consumer trust, millions of active players and hundreds of millions of dollars every year for a game that conceptually is much more primitive than enlisted.
nerfing weapons that players got used too just creates negative shake ups and problems.
also nerfing a weapon just to put in a new one instead is begging for issues, since the old weapon already had its balance due to years of player experience, the new weapon will have to go through all types of issues causing problems possibly over months.
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I mean, nobody would really care about a +5% recoil nerf. And another one 6 months later. “Coolking a frog” kind of thing. Also there are many voices this gun overperforms for a ww1 experimet (and I fully agree).
But gajin has a tradition of nerfing things to the ground so I guess your scenario is more likely.
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Ok, this one might drop like a brick but… what does “BR” stand for? Apparently i missed the acronym convention…
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hehe, Battle Rating
like in warthunder, funny that you dont know : )
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happens…
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you missed last 10 months on forum it seems…
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Volkstrum weapons could be buffed up to tier 3, but anything beyond that is too much, current progression is obviously based on how hard it is to unlock the equipment atm
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Yes, I believe that would be a good compromise for the people who like PR’s, as well as the historical accuracy. I for one would agree with that.
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I am interested in something like this.
I don’t care if you have MP 3008 vs AS-44 in Berlin. That is the most fitting period for it.
I don’t care about ohh this kills better than that, I prefer having some integrity, and that means no MP 3008 in Tunisia and Moscow
This new system isn’t perfect, but I think it has some potential to be tweaked how we see it
balance is good even if it breaks the historical accuracy because in the end we are playing a videogame