just sayin, but weren’t you fighting toxicity with more toxicity?
for that matter, y’all shouldnt complain about others bein toxic if ur just gonna be toxic right back. only place i can say i’ve seen toxicity on this scale is crossout’s forum. i’d say the best thing to do about the lmg nerf is just adapt to it. i mean, the game IS still in beta, is it not? also im not an expert or anything, but mebbe it would be better to try playing at least slightly differently before saying axis (or allies) is horrible and completely unable to be effective?
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Differency between m3 and Mp40 is quite alot less than differency between ppd / Mp40 and completely irrelevant to topic of soviet smg vs german smg.
If you want to go cry about M3 / MP40 then do it somewhere else.
Yeah, they were only guns that were comparable to soviet smg’s at cqc.
Ironicly the QQ behind this was the realism but at the same time soviet wunderweapons with none of the realistic downsides of the guns are completely fine.
No bias here.
not really since german smgs have higher damage but lower ROF while grease guns have higher damage but lower ROF but the point is you have to use different weapons differently when compared to the enemy counter part
except i’m not, since i know how how to work around the weakness of grease gun to get it to work
except russian SMGs are only good at CQC since they sneeze out their bullets…which is why you want not ridiculous high ROF for bullet conservation but even then that wouldn’t excuse LMGs being used as assault rifles and not as lmgs
I will gladly switch the 0.2 more dmg to PPD if mp40 gets the rof and double the mag size.
Fairly irrelevant, as every gun is capable to kill in this game if thats your “argument” why soviets over twice better smg shouldnt be nerfed then we might as well get the LMG’s back to what they used to be.
As every gun was capable to kill them too.
Intresting since I havent had any issues on mid range to kill ppl with PPD definitely capable to kill ppl at same range as MP40.
Intresting how you super skilled people are completely capable to compete against twice better PPD but magically cant do shit with the PPD.
Doesnt sound like biased at all.
But there was nothing wrong with LMG ? I mean your reasoning here is that you can kill the user of certain gun, by using your superior master tactics so its “fine”
completely disregarding its stats that pretty much proves its over twice better on cqc than its counter part.
more damage is still more damage at the end of the day
i didn’t know being hyper aggressive and getting my ass on the point was considered master tactics…but seriously my play style is hyper aggression even with tanks
because lmgs were never used assault rifles hell the only 2 lmgs in game that were designed for walking fire in mind were the BAR and chauchat sooooo yeah
oh also this was from august 9th which was 9 days before LMG nerf and i didn’t use it as an assault rifle, we won and i was in second place because of rally points and my squads are still mostly equipped with bolt actions hell i even topped scored with squads mostly equipped with fucking american carbines with 4.5 caps on an invasion map
so there was no need for LMG nerf as PPD has more bullets. More bullets is more bullets.
Awesome logic.
Bar is automatic rifle.
Yet again completely irrelevant to subject.
and that disqualifies what i said? but if you want actual evidence then here you go
PDD at 16 meters:
MP38 at 16 meters:
PPD at 52 meters:
MP38 at 52 meters
as you can see there is a large contrast at 50 meters with mp38 having a 25% hit rate while ppd having 11% hit rate
i know, same with chauchat and fg42, but BAR was pressed into LMG role by the US army so it will be counted as an LMG like it is in game
i mean the carbine part is but the screenshot is very much relevant since it shows that you don’t need to use lmgs as assault rifles to do well with them
bursting at furthest target
single shot at furthest target
Intresting how different results we get, are you deliberately missing all your shots or you just cant aim ?
Oh look I once got some kills too with rifles so we can entirely remove soviet smg’s as they aint needed.
ooor i could just be using full auto since mp38 isn’t a select fire, and i’m pretty sure most people don’t burst or use semi automatic I also didn’t mount since most of the time you aren’t going to mount most of the time either i should also point out that i don’t have the -15% shot dispersion
good on you for using rifles correctly but not lmgs which was my point since guess wait lmgs were not assault rifles and shouldn’t be used as such in this game if you want ARs get them to add cold war era wars
So you are here advising people how to play because they think soviets twice better smg’s are completely out of balance but at the same time it never occured to your mind to burst fire at longer range ?
OK.
And the MP’s has so low rof that u can easily single shot with it anyway.
Really ? Amongs all the inaccurated historical horseshit and the LMG’s that killed you is the one that broke your realism fantasy ?
hey not my fault that this playerbase is of low intelligence but yes you can single fire with it though it’s not as effective as going full auto but if you don’t want to learn how to play with the mp38 against ppds then you have no room to complain 
yes…if you ignore that i say jumbo shouldn’t be in the game because it was never there, same with m2 carbine and wanting the fg restricted because of low production number and that it’s also a full auto being restricted which was something that wasn’t historical since standard issue full auto didn’t really appear until korea
Says guy whos spraying at 50m. Irony at its best.
sorry i’m showing how the common player would likely play and the best way to deal with shit also aren’t you the guy who complained that i literally said go around jumbo?
Yeah best way to deal with “shit” is definitely to spray at 50m.
Well actually ive now pointed out about 900 times how absolutely fking stupid your suggestions / advices are.
But so far I havent had luck you figuring it out yet.
i’m aware of that and had to learn to fire in burst because m2 carbine
have you? since you barely respond to me at total of 18 times while the person you’ve responded to the most having 51 replies and i’ve not made suggestions, i’m saying how ppds works is a close range beast and that’s all…so calm down, think clearly and go kill the commies