I am so sick of trying to enjoy Germany BR2 almost have every single match uptiered and the enemy always using tanks that my crappy little BR2 tank can’t touch. How about some balance? How about each uptier equals 2 players at the correct tier? You get a 3 and 1 BR1 bot the other side gets 2 at BR 2. Today I about had it with this BS. Making me not like the game as much anymore because its the same crap match after match. Spend an hour to get shelled by high tier tanks and lose. The best part if I do not like it I can get corn holed by that 20% penalty and force to stay in a putrid poop match. Fix the game stop wasting your time of trying to sell people premium skins for 30-40$. When there are no players left to buy you overprices crap you no longer exist as a game. Yes, it is over priced. Sorry charging the same price as a triple AAA title for one squad is about as awesome as removing the Gold orders so you could sell more of these over priced squads.
I stopped playing germany br2 because it is ALWAYS up-tiered to 3. Went back and play br1, which is only 95% up-tiered to br2. I prefer bolts and more simple gameplay, i can still thrive at br1 vs br2, but my br2 loadout isn’t fully ideal yet, so i usually (but not always) get wiped when uptiered to 3, and it just isn’t fun to be completely outgeared. You shouldn’t have to have 100% br gear in order to dare to play that BR because you know you’re gonna get matched to a full loadout a tier above.
I am once again asking for a checkbox like the “play any army” checkbox that decreases matchmaking time by allowing up/down tier, but standard matchmaking be br=, even if it takes a couple minutes to find a game
It was only slightly noticeable but now that I am paying attention I realized it is literally almost every match. I look at the feed. They need some kind of player tier balance. Its BS to expect 4 live players (Lets face it we are seeing SO MANY BOTS and so few live players) at BR2 to face off against 2X BR3. It sucks that I enjoy that BR because its almost at the point I do not want to even waste my time playing enlisted unless its task and honestly I finished the BP so its wetfart reward time. OHHH BOY 1000SILVER! for Win 5 battles, Be the top 20% of your team 6 times, kill 90 people with a shovel etc etc. Here is another idea stop having the bots stand around on the edges outside the cap for the entire match.
Yup, I don’t understand the matchmaking at all. Like I’ve said before, half or more of the problem is the self-fulfilling prophecy of “people don’t play x tier because it always gets up-tiered” and so everyone is reticent to play that tier, therefore no one plays that tier, so if you do there’s no one to match against, so you get up-tiered. Make br±0, all the boogeymen go away, and people can just play the br they enjoy. If it takes 10 minutes to find a game, well that sucks, maybe try a different br at that point, or find people online who like to play it and promote why it’s fun. But I don’t think that would be the case, if there’s no danger of getting outclassed purely on stats (skill is different, amount of silver spent to fill out your br is different) then people would jusy play what they want to play
Exactly, I have max everything in every faction. I play US 5 Japan 5 USSR 3 but I like playing Germany 2 it has all the maps, stuff is not overpowered and its more skills based versus using BR5 heavy equipment. I also play it because I like the equipment and the sound some of the guns make. I hate how an STG 44 sounds love how a Beretta sounds, oddly enough the sound a gun makes and how well it handles to me is more important than how OP it is. All my engineers are armed with 1918 BR1 semi auto buy I love them! That is one of my favorite guns in the game. (Condors always my number 1)
I could play BR5 Germany with sweet sweet condor squads but I enjoy the pace of a BR2 match to mix it up. Honestly I think its better to have 1-2 per squad considering how bad the AI squad acts. People under utilize sound in the game. The game actually does a really good job at its audio spatial environment.
These aren’t bots, they’re people. To see how bots work, play 1-4 BR as Japan. 80-90% of your team will be bots.
I’ve only been playing since march, other than a dozen games right around the time of the steam launch (I’m on the gaijin launcher still), but since late March I’ve been on every day. I play all factions, and unless I’m really excited about something in the TT i play with “any nation” checked for variety. I can field br2 with germany or usa, decently complete br1 squads with ussr and japan, with some br2, but not full. If i had to i have the silver in reserve to outfit germany and/or usa for br3 (about 450k).
I’m not in any rush to get to br5, from everything I’ve seen it just doesn’t look very fun. Just ultra sweaty. I have a fulltime job already, I don’t need another one. Probably gonna stop at br3, unless they fix matchmaking to make br4 viable (only going off other peoples’ comments since I haven’t played it, but seems to be the consensus).
I think the lack of firm BR1 matchmaking locks is holding back updates for BR2, leaving it unable to compete with BR3.
I’ve long suggested moving all open-top, turretless tank destroyers armed with 75mm or 76mm guns to BR1 and locking their battle rating. Then add more powerful vehicles and weaponry to BR2 to narrow the gap between BR2 and BR3. Right now, the German and American tech trees fall behind the Soviet and Japanese ones, so more and more players are gravitating towards BR3.
This garbage LOL next match we clubbed them like baby seals.
Ironic we roll off the wins finally after so many losses. Crazy averages Juan at 160+
I guess because there are many many more Soviets playing BR3 than BR2 - the few German BR2 players right now have to play against Soviet BR3 constantly.
Then again, by the same logic when I play Germany BR4, I almost never get matched with Soviets BR3.
I know this sounds ridiculous coming from me - but my gut tells me Soviet bias MM.
In all honesty tho, unlike warthunder, here in Enlisted you dont even have a system that tells you what BRs people have in your match.
We have no ability to check if the MM is fair for both teams.
Seriously, one team could have 10 BR3 players fighting against a 10 BR2 players team, and outside of the kill feed we wouldn’t have any way to verify that - should the MM be this imbalanced, I dare to say that the entire BR system would be an utterly shameless failure.
If you never want to be uptiered to BR3, then use “ALL BR1” weapons. That way, you’ll always be uptiered to BR2. 
That is one reason I never use any BR4 weapons in my BR3 lineups in BR3, because 9 times out of 10 that one weapon will uptier me to BR5.
This is what I found. I did not realize 3 fights 5.
- BR 1 & 2: Only face BR 1, 2, and 3 equipment. (Note: For BR 1, the matchmaker enforces a strict
rule where you will not be matched against BR 3 players if enough players are online).
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BR 3: Acts as a “floater.” You will randomly be pulled into either Low Tier (BR 1–3) or High Tier (BR 3–5) matches, acting as top-tier or bottom-tier gear depending on who is in the queue.
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BR 4 & 5: Only face BR 3, 4, and 5 equipment.
But I kind of proved myself wrong because we went 1 loss 3 wins, but weirdly enough less BR3 equipment. I can tell by the tanks and planes. The BR3 player will always spam tanks because they know there are no BR4 players on 2 and 3. II play with BR3 players so it means I have been facing 3-5 at BR2. To be fair its only primary weapons and hardware like planes and tanks. A grenade, AP, pistol, melee, bag, rally, wire are all universal and tier 4 troops can play BR1 with all their perks.
I do that when playing US sometimes.
Sten is darn good for a BR1 SMG, and with bolt actions you cant really go wrong in BR1.
It sucks tho when I have to deal with PPS43 and body armor when playing Germany BR1, well at least Panzer III J is excellent for a BR1 tank that can reliably take out most BR2 tanks.
Well Kar98 doesn’t really care about body armor, but when needing to go into close combat, German BR1 SMGs get eaten alive. To be fair tho… BR1 PPD is quite trashy aswell, empties too quickly.
In other words, man I wish the MM would be ± 0.
Since I have several BR1 Premium squads, I don’t use any bolt action rifle squads. I have 12 slots, but this is basically what I play with out of those 12 slots. I use a six person tank as well which I more or less use as an APC, and they all carry M-3 Grease Guns. I have a couple other squads that take up space, but don’t use them so I didn’t list them. My Mortar squad I have no mortarmen, two SMG’s and four riflemen carrying the Smith Lights.
I felt that BR II in any faction was more often than not uptiered… and by that I mean almost always. That’s why I’ve made the shift to BR III on all the factions I play.
I don’t know… I think the game would benefit more from a 6th BR - inbetween BR III and IV - because the jump between BR IV and V is too big. We have a lot of underperforming BR IV gear and a lot of overperforming BR II gear, and everything could be balanced out by just stretching the tech tree a little… adding some space.
However, another BR means giving up on ± 0 matchmaking, both can’t sadly coexist I think.
Not that I mind ± 0 MM, I won’t howl if thats the eventual solution - I’d feel a lot less bad about choosing underpeforming BR IV gear if I wasn’t almost guaranteed to be uptiered all of the time to meet BR V.
Agree - that way, alot of “worthless” gear will get a reason to be finally used again.
Well the Soviets and US are playing BR III and BR V mostly so its normal.