We need the BR VI

In the current game, the balance between BR IV and BR V is off, and it even affects BR III.
In War Thunder, the main ones are BR 4.7, BR 5.7, and BR 6.7. In Enlisted, they are roughly equivalent to three BRs.
But in Enlisted, there are only simple BR IV and BR V.

Causing the following problems:
1.BR III tanks cannot beat the stronger tanks in BR IV, such as the M4A2 (War Thunder BR 4.0, WT Mobile BR II) cannot beat the Tiger I H1 (War Thunder BR 5.7, WT Mobile BR IV).
2.Some tanks in BR IV can’t beat other tanks of their own BR, let alone tanks of BR V.For example, the KV-1/ZiS-5 (War Thunder BR 4.7, WT Mobile BR III) cannot defeat the Panther Ausf. A (War Thunder BR 6.0, WT Mobile BR V). Not to mention facing the Tiger II tank (War Thunder BR 6.7, WT Mobile BR VI).
3.The infantry of BR IV is crushed by BR V, and BR V’s 20-round automatic rifle crushes BR IV’s 10-round semi-automatic rifle.

We only need to raise the BRV to BR VI, and then promote the overly strong ones in BR IV to BR V, and this can solve almost many problems that have existed for the past two and a half years.

Launch BR VI to balance the current game?

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This would require a lot of content being added in order to flesh out the new BR5 and BR6 across the board. But this is one of the best steps they could take balancing wise

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Whist it would be tricky to do cleanly for Japan, I think the overall correct course would be to “stretch” the entire tech tree of all factions. Quite a lot of BR II gear is quite frankly quite overpowered for example, it’s not just BR IV vehicles that are in a sorry state.

With the overall purpose of reducing the power difference between all BRs, not just inconsistent BR IV.


With such a approach in mind, the need for “new gear” would be lessened, because we’re just redistributing everything that’s already in-game, rather than just between two BRs…

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We don’t need a Tier 6 tech tree; we need to rebalance the campaign tiers.

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What in BR2 is “overpowered?”
You realize BR2 face mostly BR3 uptier because is more popular than BR1, right?

the biggest problem in this game (other than unbalanced matchmaking) is unbalanced BR gear.

For Example: Japan BR2 now is Arisaka and Type 97 LMGs against Thompson,BAR,PPshBox,KV1 spam.

Another obvious example: BR4 being a very unpopular BR because it just can’t compete with BR5.

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What I mean is balancing the tier, but the tier can only be extended to BR 6 (not adding new items); otherwise, BR 4 will always be an unbalanced tier.

I think if the TT APCs and a few machine guns were moved down to BR1 then it’d be fine. At that point the only difference would be that BR1 doesn’t have any HE slingers in an uptier

BR II gear that I think needs adjusting (preferably with a stretched out BR system, or other):

PPS-43
MP-719(r)
Type 100 Early
Type 100 Paratrooper SMG
Type 100 with Bipod
Type 1 SMG
M1A1 Thompson
Thompson 7.63
Patchett Mk I - once its buffs gets through, assuming they are what I think they’re going to be
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk I - or Lee-Enfields in general
Arisaka Type 38 Rifle (30) - Especially once its buffs gets through
M1 Carbine - thanks to the recent buff
M1A1 Carbine
Fedorov rifle 1912
P13 Kretz
Pavesi M42
Lewis Assault Rifle
Panzer III M
Spitfire Mk IX
P-38G

If the word “overpowered” tastes foul on your tongue - in case you think it’s too strong a word - ‘over-tuned’ works too if it makes the medicine go down easier.

Overall, with a stretched out BR system gear that’s sitting on the edge of being too-high a BR (and therefor underused) could comfortably be moved down, giving them a second life within an enviornment where BR differences aren’t as great as they are now. This goes both ways, some things are too good where they are (some have a harder time being up-tiered than others), and other gear are too poor where they are (some have a harder time being down-tiered than others).

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I have been looking into the possibilities of adding more BRs to the game.
But whats the point of adding more BRs when factions are already missing vital gear like Japan not having a sniper rifle above BR2 at all.
Soviets dont have a BR4 TT fighter or BR1 attacker.
Allies has no BR4 TT rifle and Axis dont have a BR3 TT sniper.

The gaps need to filled first. Otherwise, we increase balance issues not decrease them.

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I think it’s better to live without some gear than to suffer with it

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The best option is to make each BR +/-0 so they don’t rebalance anything and then there isn’t uptiered or downteired matches giving an advantage.

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It’s a Gaijin game, removing up- and down-tiers is… unlikely. It’s the drive/incentive that inevitably pushes new players to progress in the game.

Instead, we should strive to make BR differences as gentle as possible.

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That would be hard because evertime they rebalance, it throws things out of whack like when they were preparing for the Manchuria campaign. BR1 will always lose to BR2…same as 4 to 5.

Difficult, but not impossible.

I am not asking for the removal of BR differences… they could just be less drastic in certain areas. The jumps could be less severe.

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It would be better if the game were balanced so that 3BR players would go with 3BR players, and 4BR players would go with 4BR players. That would be a better balance, not the other way around.

For some reason, no one has written on this topic regarding BR balance.

Should we further crush the low online numbers for the sake of tankers’ convenience?
No.

True.
Picking KV-1 or M4A2 is a gamble. I could have picked M10 Wolw. or T-34-57 that are effective in uptier as well, but I hoped that I would get a downtier and bully BR2 players.

Vehicles aside, there are however certain balancing issues that could be improved by adding a new BR. BR2 and BR3 submachine guns for example could greatly benefit from decompression as the gap between the strongest BR3 submachine guns (ppsh41 stick; mp41r; M1928A1) and the weakest BR2 SMGs (M3A1; FNAB-43) is simple too much.
A buffer BR with guns like Type 100 (early); bit buffed up Pps-43; M1A1 Thompson; Mp35/I would greatly help making those weak SMGs less outclassed in an uptier, making a bunch of guns more viable to play.

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kretz semi auto rifle doing 23 damage

No, what we need is more content in BR 1 and BR 4 by shifting things down.

Shift APCs, the first couple of LMGs (Breda instead of MG13) and all bolt actions below 10 round capacity to BR 1.

G41 to BR 2 & G43 to BR3 unless they decide to make the SVT38 stripper clip fed.

Shift the MKB42 down to BR 4

And for god sake folder more things.

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