We need balance in the battle of moscow

I think we need changes in this campaign, the Soviet tanks are very unbalanced, the Soviet assault rifles are well above the Germans, in the solo mode there are many bots and they are very notorious, the Soviets in the invasion mode have a great Advantage in terms of positioning, the artillery that the radio operator shoots is a joke for the tank, in short it is as if the game is trying to commit a Nazi massacre, more than% 90 are lost to the Nazi team.

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Not gonna lie idk which Russian tank it was and also don’t know if the guy driving it had help on repairs but it literally steam rolled the entire match. Although I have to say that was the only match that happened in. I haven’t had no more problems destroying them after.

Bro take your time learn how play and next complaing on necessart things

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Moscow has the best balance from the existing campaigns atm.

How? They get pretty powerful gun nad mobility (in case of BT-7). But they have less crew, what lowers their survivability. German tanks also have better anti infantry capabilities with their MGs.
What is also important that anything over Pz III E is invincible for T-60, when Pz II can destroy everything up to T-50 (if used correctly)

PPDs are truly very strong. But so are german MGs, especially MG-34.

Thats the whole point defence. I understand that you are talking about Forestery map? Because in all other Invasion maps both sides can attack nad defend.

Devs can’t do anything about it. Players just don’t want to play that mode. Noone can force them to do that.

Then you must be very unlucky, because for me nad my friends Moscow was complete Blitzkreig for few last weeks.

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if you notice this is his first post we must instruct him how to play if he asks for something

Sure, I’m 100% ready to help new players when they ask for something.
But not when it is only call for “nerf everything that kills me”.

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Theres slight differency of unlocking 71drum PPD at level 11 and unlocking Mg-34 at level 20.
& comparison between smg & lmg seems bit off-topic.

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There is a difference, but each side has its pros and cons. MG13 is also much better than Madsen if you want something on the lower levels. I just chose MG-34 as example because that gun is just pure gold and Russians don’t have anything near to it.
The point isn’t comparing SMG and LMG but rather showing that both sides have something more powerful than the other.

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mg13 unlocks much earlier and cost only 1 silver order. Madson is really bad when compared to mg13. Actually mg13 and 34 are one of the best weapons in whole campaing so comparing it to soviets best weapons are not so off topic

That I can agree the Mg13 is better than madsen. But is it that much better with its 25magazine that it justifies the ppd / mp differency. I highly doubt & theres always more PPD’s in field than Mg13’s as you can have more assaulters than gunners.
Dp27 does the job just fine regardless is it “worse” than Mg34 as both guns biggest advantage over other LMG’s is the ammo capacity.

Unlocks exactly at same lvl 10.

Moscow feels way more balanced than Nomady. I mean Nomady got the M4A3E2 in comparison to the Pz. IV H and thats just one of a lot of examples for that particular campaing.

Anyway I think Moscow in general is a harder campaign because of the more or less balanced(better) map design. However my win rates are close to be equal. With a really slight advantage on soviet side.

I kinda agree on him on this, since after the completion of first and second point of the forestry map are a spawn camp haven, they can just sit pretty much on it and just kill whoever spawns even on some of the maps of moscow as germans

True. But MPs also do their job just fine, regardless being slightly worse in close quarters when compared to PPD. But they work better than russian counterpart on longer ranges - they are a bit more accurate and without that high firerate is is easier to hit targets that are more far away.

LMG need 1-2 hits to kill an enemy. They also work on basically any range. In the right hands they can be much more dangerous than any SMG. Thats imo good asymetrical balance - both sides have something stronger, but are equally easily counterable.

Overall balance between PPD and MPs is very delicate. You should have seen all the journey we had with it since the beginning of CAT. At first PPDs had much less damage output and recoil so high that they were almost unusable on distances higher than 15 meters. Then devs decided to nerf all german weapons (due to lack of players on the SU side) - PPD had higher damage and slightly corrected recoil. And later we were given what we have now and it is imo the best place possible when balancing those two things.

Neither of the guns is good at longer range and both sides can solve the issue by having rifle as secondary weapon.
The job theyr designed for CQB theres no argument that PPD is by far superior to any of the german smgs. And unlocking the 71 drum at lvl 11 doesnt exactly balance the issue.

Yet even I still agree the Mg13 is better than the madsen theres no debate, the comparison between LMG and SMG is ridiculous as they are entirely different guns and if we go down that path that you need to use a different unit to counter same unit of enemy team then every problem could solved by using tank or plane.

Its not ridiculous at all. Both are automatic weapons and really easy to use. Both can be hipfired while standing so there isnt any gameplay difference when used cqb.

Also there is 2 gunner and assault squads in campaing unlocks.

Biggest diffetence is that lmg is much more effective at range

Mayby devs should ‘rename’ all smg’s and lmg’s to just automatic weapons and assaulters to automatic weapon boi and gunners to ratatatata bois. After that we could compare different factions best weapons freely

Lets pretend that SMG - LMG comparison is fine and its due to asymmetric balance.
As the PPD is by far superior to Mp’s then with that logic the Madsen should be singleshot weapon without a magazine to justify the differencies between those SMGs by asymmetrical balance.
Or give the Mg13 even less recoil and 50 round magazine as with your logic its supposed to be the counter of PPD.

Dont wanna be rude but looks like you dont even understand what logic means. If you think mp38 or 40 is that bad then it must l2p issue.

After all, thats not my problem. Just keep crying how german suffers and ppd cant be beaten

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PPD-40 is the better PPD with the higher rate of fire basically like a PPSh where it has a better chance against MGs in CQB.

DP-27 is good enough for MG way better than the Madsen.

No need to be butthurt just because your LMG - SMG comparison is stupid af.
If you really think madsen is so bad guess its just l2p issue hurrdurr argument.

Oh bois sure im butthurt cause your single shot madsen is most intelligent thing we ever heard on this forum