We need balance in the battle of moscow

Cant really say is that sarcasm or not, that much intelligency you have shown so far. Could very well be the most intelligent thing you have ever heard.

Ofcourse your words are most intelligent thing on this planet. Please share more your great wisdom, mayby some day we lesser beings can understand how german really suffers and how ppd is totally unbeatable…

Soon all campaigns on the Axis side will be filled with bots. When I look at what weapons get the Allies (mostly Soviets), and what Axis gets (mainly pre-war weapons), I know it will happen soon. If someone disagrees, please have a look at level 14 of the Berlin campaign on both sides. This is a mockery.

taking anything “tovarish tony” says seriously about balance in a communist campaign. LOL

The PPD goes further, faster and stronger than the MP28. Lol the Germans are very strong

I say its okay, Germany does stands a chance on Moscow. Im just not a fan of old weapons and tanks.

Moscow is all about Light Tanks, ull never see Medium or Heavy Tanks same with STG44 PPSH etc

For the OP i dont think he ever play Berlin did he. Situation is significantly worst than what he described on Moscow

yeah if he dislikes moscow he will hate berlin.

He neds to just play allies like a gud boi

exactly weapons discussion is stupid the only merit of enlisted so far is the historical accuracy, germany actually during ww2 was not able to keep up with the enemies just think that most of the german supply lines used horses this should suffice to understand that in terms of modernization they were years behind the others, this also applies to weapons
(their super weapons don’t matter if they spent more time modernizing and less time creating wunderfaffe maybe they would have won)

the majority of things in moscow are fine. Nothing needs to be changed

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My favorite thing about this post is the claim that Russia gets better positioning in invasion when iirc no Moscow invasion maps have a team locked to a side except the lumber map.

That and the talk of “assault rifles” which is anyone’s guess what OP is trying to talk about.

At the end of the day it’s just too ignorant of a post to be anything but laughed at.

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Moscow is fine for me.
ppd is stronk but mp 38/40 is more versatile
At the end mg 34 is definitively the queen of the battlefield

As infantry only player the thing that bothers me is svt-38 sniper for ruskis VS bolt rifle sniper for german with level 2 sniper

PPD is really good but mp28/mp38 is fine too.
For tanks, i think they are equals, soviet have better cannon but it doesn’t prevent germans tanks to oneshot me almost everytime so i think this is cool.
For artillery i would rather say it empowers germans because for example on assault in Forestry the first point is just not defendable i only won one time on that point, germans just use artillery and we get instant spawnkilled we can even set foot on ground.

I don’t have germans maxed on battle for moscow but i don’t know people are whining about germans guns, they are litteraly the same you can watch stats for k98k and mosin 91 they are the same.
Germans have better lmg which are very deadly.
I’m gonna play german side for a while because i don’t know why do you guys think soviet are overpowered on this campaign

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You miss hte point entirely - the balance in this is not symmetric - one side has an advantage in 1 area, the other has an advantage in a different area.

No need to resort to crude stupidity at all - jsut appreciate what you are being told and learn somethign new today.

There can be asymmetric balance without the differencies being between night and day.

I think it is fair too. SVT might give higher firerate and is better on closer distances, but Gewehr 98 (Sniper II BA rifle) has much higher damage output - basically guaranteed OHK every time. It is supposed to be devastating on much longer distances.

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And they aren’t “night and day” here either - despite the doomsayers for various sides.

Having over double mag size and nearly twice as much rof over the other weapon I would say its quite significant differency.

yep true,it’s not the same doctrine of use.

How about you actually show some understanding of assymetric balance - 'cos at he mometn you are looking like you have no idea what it is despite saying otherwise.

Of course it’s a significant difference - but you’re still hung up that this has to be nerfed because it is a single difference… ignoring that there are lots of significant differences in all the weapons categories - what do you want - every weapon to be exactly the same as it’s opposite number with no differences? Or only “minor” differences that dont’ really matter??

You said you understand what assymetric balance is - and yet you still ignore it in your argument - PPD better than MP so PPD has to be nerfed is the sum total of your position … so are you also going to make the comparisons across all wepons, or only the ones that the other side uses?

Machineguns are an obvious area where the axis has a strong advantage, and also CAS - these are all part of the balance equation too - balance isn’t just pivoting on the Soviets getting a 71 round drum mag for their SMG…

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You do understand that this isnt exactly first WW2 game ? Asymmetrical balance isnt exactly something that was invented with this game. Neither it doesnt need to be faction A dominating indoors and faction B dominating openfields.

Never said it need to be nerfed, clearly pointed out its significantly better than the other.
And by far more common weapon than the german LMG’s that are supposed to be the counter balance for PPD. You can also buff the guns that are significantly worse, which you obviously know as you are such a expert of asymmetrical balance.

Again, point out where I stated PPD has to be nerfed. If you put 2 equal players fight for indoors and the another one constantly wins due to better equipment it is quite stupid regardless how much of asymmetrical balance it would be.

But didnt you boys earlier claim that Mp40 is infact better due to low rof as its more versatile and better on range ? One could wonder how come that low rof on madsen is now a bad thing as its low rof is perfect for long range engagements.