Us armor is over tiered

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76mm the kiss of death
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Idont mean 76mm is death i mean its over tiers tanks, the 75m3 is garbage
88mm gr
90mm us
76mm uk
75mm gr
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M3 75mm

Armour
front / side / back
Hull
12 / 12 / 12 mm
Turret
25 / 12 / 12 mm
Visibility
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Crew

A 76mm makes this br4
In war thunder same br
In enlisted br4 and 5

What US armor exactly is “overtiered”?

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M18 open toped 1/2 inch to 1 inch armor
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Even br3 is too high
Any other faction it be br2
In wathunder speed is armor
In enlisted armor is armor
At least m10 has sherman amor 2+ inches

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Mate, what other faction are you even talking about? There’s nothing similar for any other tree. The Hellcat is a daredevil, it might not have the best armour, but at least it can go backwards at a decent speed and flank, the problem is Enlisted maps are not big enough to play this TD effectively. It is currently sitting at BR III if you didn’t notice.

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No really, tell me one tank outside br 1 with comparable armor
if it was just open toped it be one thing
if it was just thin armor another
the m10 has the sam e gunand speed with 2x to 3x the armor at br3

The Hellcat is a daredevil, it might not have the best armour,
12 mm max hull
25mm max turret

which is all we have in enlisted its just a slow target
if the jagpanther is br4 the m18 is br2

flank how with the gray zone an enemy can fall back for ever and face the enemy. in warthundeer and world of tanks yes you can flank hell you can encircle

I’m not really sure what you are actually trying to say and suggest here

it was beautiful but fell apart, this site is so wrong almost half the tanks are at the wrong br, so almost nothing thats why i deleted the first post
M18 GMC 13/13/13 25/13/13 80.20 76mm M1 Cannon 5.9 19 APCBC/19 HE/7 Smoke 12.7mm M2HB Machine Gun 24 4 5 Open top 120000 XP IVbr

i guess my point is tank destroyers with thick armor and no turret get down tiered
while open toped thin skinned tds stay where they are.
which works in war thunder but not enlisted
and they need to get rid of the gray zone tanks

I don’t think this is true because most of them are on BR 4 and they are not that good on BR 4, stuff like Jagdpanzer 4 and Su-85M etc all sitting on BR 4 and never been used. Jagdpanther is on BR 5 and it sucks as well.

Most of these vehicles are on BR 2 which is an appropriate BR for them. The only exceptions i can think of is that Achilles and Nashorn which has no business being on BR 4. Other than that, i think they are mostly placed in where they should be.

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90 percent correct the m10 is br1 armor with a br4 gun at br3
the m36 is br3 armor and a br5 gun at br4
the sug 3 f is a br3 armor and a br3 gun at br2 only lacking a turret

M18 is perfrection

in war thunder speed is armor works
in enlisted armor is armor
remove the avility of tanks to remain in the gray zone would go a long way to leveling the playing field between casement td and upen toped td

Nashorn
M8 Scott
Sd.Kfz 234/3
Sturer Emil is open top, armored but still slow af
Ho-Ni I
Ho-Ni III
Na-To
Chi-Ha LG
Marder I
Marder III
The Flakbus (Sd.Kfz 8 w 8,8cm Flak 37 Sfl)
You can even kill the crusader with a 75mm HE shell
The Soviet regular T-28’s frontal plate is only 20mm thick

No, it hasn’t the same speed, is slower and has a horrible reverse speed, it also those 51mm on the hull are in the lower part of it, the main plate is 38mm only, not enough to stop even a 50mm KwK39 shot, the only part where it has effective armour is the gun mantlet.

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M10 Stats

Captura de pantalla (64)
M18 Stats

You can see there the M18 has a reverse top speed of 26km/h, while the M10 has 5km/h reverse speed. It even rotates its turret faster than the M10, the M18 has 24°/s horizontal traverse speed while the M10 has 4°/s only.

It’s a glass cannon, a tank destroyer, not a vehicle destined to support infantry on the first line, it’s useful to hit and run, don’t expect to be a berserker if you’re playing this vehicle.

That’s BS because have you actually tried to shoot M10 with BR 1 guns like 37mm or 47mm? Because M10 is surprisingly resistant against them. If you want to use the BR 1 armor argument then it should be something with very thin armor like Marder 3.

M36 has a working turret drive unlike Achilles or M10 so it’s basically just a tank with less armor at this point. Altho i’d say that it’s like 3.5 BR tank if you ask me rather than being full BR 4 worthy vehicle.

Now this is just pure BS and being dishonest. In what universe the flat 50mm armor is BR 3 worthy armor? lmao

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Armour
front / side / back
Hull
28 / 28 / 25 mm
Turret
38 / 25 / 25 mm
Visibility
78 %
Crew

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M10
Armour
front / side / back
Hull
12 / 12 / 12 mm
Turret
25 / 12 / 12 mm
Visibility
81 %
Crew
150% to 200% more are you going to make me prove the entire list a lie one by one

Everyone can post some stat card bullshit armor to make a dishonest argument like this. Why don’t you come back with overlapped armor parts and angled armor for each sections of these vehicles to make the comparison accurate? Also, i think one of this BS you copy pasted is M18. What M18 has to do with this? Are you saying that a tank with basically marder 3 level armor and gun but with much better mobility and a working turret should be on BR 2 instead? :rofl:

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Now this is just pure BS and being dishonest. In what universe the flat 50mm armor is BR 3 worthy armor? lmao

Sturmgeschütz III - Wikipedia
hull front 50mm effective 80 to 10mm
German tank industry capacity and cast armour - Axis History Forum
see the star and bolts
call that the lower hull
50mm thick effective 80 to 100 same as the stug 3 f yep the upper hull is thicker

no i am saying in enlisted mobility counts for nothing
and its an open turret in a game with machine guns, artillery, and infantry

The picture you posted is Stug 3 G late not Stug 3 F. Also, if you are gonna cherry picking the small section of armor to act like it’s the average protection of the vehicle, then i can also make a BS argument like this with Sherman because i think it has like 130mm effective thickness on the hull. Don’t try to make a BS argument like this please.