Type 4 Rifle -> 15.3 Damage (But Balanced)

Would you like to see the Type 4’s damage increased to 15.3?
  • Yes
  • Yes, with minor nerfs to other stats
  • No
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Type 4 Rifle Recoil Control

The Type 4 Rifle suffers from not having 15.3 damage, the standard for other full-power semi automatic rifles of BR 3. However, it does have an additional 30% recoil control that is unique to it, making follow-up shots easier than other weapons of it’s type. I would like to see the Type 4 receive a damage buff, but also keep it balanced, meaning another stat likely needs a nerf to compensate.

For example, the reload speed could be slowed down to 4.0 seconds. Another potential alternative is the dispersion is increased to 0.24 (the standard for all other full-power semi-autos is 0.20).

Ultimately, I think the Type 4 should be generally on-par with the American M1941 Johnson rifle in overall strength, but keep the recoil control to offer something different, in compensation for one or more other stats being weaker.

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Velocity being at 689 compared to 800 for competitors is already a nerf enough.
And considering how a closest analogue to 7.7x58, the british 7.7x56 deals 16.8 dmg, nerfed value of 15.3 would be satisfactory with no further changes neccessary.

But Gaijin will still go the ‘non-biased’ way as always.

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Either way, there’s space for nuanced discussion.

A lot of people see a straight buff suggestion and assume someone is biased, without looking at how all of the stats compare. Everything should have something to offer, and the 14.9 damage of Type 4 leaves it struggling heavily against Soviet BA. If the devs still refuse to touch it, Type 4 needs more damage.

Interestingly, the Japanese Navy did have explosive 7.7 mm rifle ammunition. As the navy suffered heavy losses toward the end of the war, these rounds—which were originally intended for anti-aircraft machine guns—started being issued to the naval infantry. You can read more about it here: Japanese Explosive Bullets, U.S. WWII Intelligence Bulletin, January 1945 (Lone Sentry)

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In my continued reading through and scanning of Japanese Machine guns by Shigeo Sugawa (almost done apologies for the wait). I recently read a section on the types of 7.7mm ammunition and I’ll add onto your mention of the explosive ammo.

7.7mm Rimless


7.7mm Semi Rimmed

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Crazy idea: what if a later Type 4 firing explosive rounds (more damage + very small splash damage) became a BR 4 rifle for Japan?

Food (or insanity) for thought.

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I’m quite a fan of such a wild proposition, Soviets got a neat sometimes insta-kill molotov launcher, Japan gets some extra potent Type 4 rifles. Beautiful asymmetrical chaos!! :laughing:

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Crazy idea: A machine gun firing explosive rounds.

a man is holding a flamethrower in a video game while standing in the desert .

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