Type 17 assault machine gun as Japanese BP weapons

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In 1928, Taiyuan Arsenal made a copy version of the Thompson M1923, and named it ‘‘Type 17 assault machine gun’’. With the longer barrel and a straight stock.
During WW2, Japan captured this gun from the Chinese army, which has a 50 rounds drum magazine.
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The original M1923’s rate of fire is 400 rounds per minute in order to fire the .45 Remington–Thompson (11.4x25mm).However, the Type 17 still chambered in .45 ACP, which means that the rate of fire might still as same as an ordinary Taiyuan Arsenal Thompson(800 rpm), because it already adopt the bipod and straight stock to increase accuracy, changing inner part to reduce the rpm would not be a good idea for manufacture.

Here are some pictures of the Type 17.
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With the longer barrel, the damage could increase to 9-10, which would be suitable for an assault rifle, the 50 rounds magazine and 800rpm would provide good fire power for Japan BR 5.
By the way, even with lower 400rpm, it would still be a useful weapon in high BR, with straight stock and bipod, the recoil would be more manageable.

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Do you want Japan get the Type 17 as BP weapons?

  • Yes
  • Nope
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Which BR and rpm would be reasonable?

  • BR 5 (800rpm)
  • BR 5 (400rpm)
  • BR 4 (400rpm)
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What type of weapons should it be?

  • As submachine gun.
  • As assault rifle.
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my man you won this time, I was going make a post of this lol, I vote yes!, @GasMasters-live @Emperor_Yoshiro , you should check this

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By the way, this gun won’t be too powerful, because other nation also have high capacity(50 rounds) assault rifle, I will write another topic about this.

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Why wasn’t the full truth about the photo stated?
The photograph, taken from a Japanese book, depicts a “Thompson M1923” used by the Chinese army, not the Japanese one.
Thus, the image shows a rare weapon used by Chinese forces during the Second Sino-Japanese War—one that later came to the attention of Japanese researchers (either as a rare trophy captured from the Chinese or simply as an exhibit from a military museum in Beijing).
Most likely, only a few hundred of these Chinese “imitations” (like the one in the photo) were produced to meet the needs of local Chinese armies.

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Oops, my bad. Only the first pictured is the captured Type 17.

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Absolutely yes!!

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I think i want it as TT

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«The well-organised arsenal in Taiyuan under the control of the 'semi-puppet Yen Hsi-shan produced copies of the US Thompson sub-machine gun and some of these were sold to ‘puppet’ soldiers(Nanking Army) in the region.»

RAYS OF THE RISING SUN; ARMED FORCES OF JAPAN’S ASIAN ALLIES 1931-45, VOLUME 1.

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